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| Re: Anyone surprised? I agree.. I don't really expect any of them to dissappear.
Qwest will say where it is due to regulatory reasons.
Sprint may fragment off its Xohm business. It needs some $$ to do a decent WiMAX deployment, and its stock is currently in the toilet. A Sprint/Alltel merger would be good.
AMD - Its still deploying cheaper chips than Intel. It just needs someone on the mass scale (like a Dell) to help push sales.
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| Re: Anyone surprised? said by en102  :Most of my server stuff gear up being Intel. May be true, but what Carbidyne was saying is that Dell DOES sell computers with AMD processors in 'em. And IMHO if THAT'S not enough to keep them afloat, they're doomed no matter what. | |
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Then they turned their backs on the overclockers, started in with Intel style hype (over nothing), and bought nvidia's only competitor.
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| You called it. ATI is an anchor around AMD's neck. What could have possibly been their plans?
Nobody wants CPU/GPU combo chips unless they're $2 ea due to their awful performance history. Have they even designed a controller to go with it or are they leaving that to someone else, like NVidia?
Another issue, NVidia used to be friendly to AMD. There always seemed to by some sort of symbiosis, in that so many custom gaming systems were AMD/NVidia setups.
It's like their goal is to eliminate any competition with Intel.
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| "Slot A"? You're a few years behind there. Up until Intel came out with Core 2, Intel was badly behind the curve. AMD is currently in the position Intel was with the end of the P4, lame excuses for dual core CPUs. It is because of AMD that Intel finally realized that Mhz wasn't the only measure of CPU power. Intel isnt too far ahead, though AMD needs to dump or fix Phenom soon or that will be the case. The last thing we need as customers is for Intel to be the only performance CPU maker. | |
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said by JakCrow : The last thing we need as customers is for Intel to be the only performance CPU maker. Double Agreed on that! | |
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| However, Core has been a blockbuster for Intel. In fact, the Core microarchitecture is popping up in places you wouldn't have expected to find Intel *anything* even two years ago. I'm not just talking desktops, but HPC workstations and servers (lest anyone forget, every XEON is Core-based), laptops, notebooks, UMPCs, even Macs (from super-lightweight to ultra-heavyweight). Core hasn't just clobbered AMD; Core is also directly responsible for chasing National Semiconductor out of the general-purpose CPU business entirely. Core 2 has simply extended Intel's lead to the supremely silly; Intel is now basically competing with *itself*. Intel is at the point where they are getting ready to EOL a processor that is too powerful for general-purpose use that is priced for for such use (I'm referring to the Q6600, formerly known as Kentsfield; a server processor in desktop clothing at desktop-processor prices.)
Yes; AMD is in serious trouble, but it can't blame all its woes on the acquisition of ATI Technologies; besides, ATI had their own issues (competing with nVidia) that simply could not be wished away. nVidia hasn't exactly had a walk in the park; the short supply of 8800GT GPUs (and the issues with their own 6-series chipsets) didn't help their positioning as an Intel-chipset alternative.
Motorola? The one area where Motorola *may* be in trouble is their cell handset business (thanks to the encroachment of LG and Samsung at the low end, and Apple's iPhone at the high end); however, Motorola still occupies the solid midrange with the RAZR and RAZR2 lines and their derivatives. Moto may actually be the most likely of the four companies to survive either mostly or completely unchanged (also Moto still has the cash cow of their broadband business, especially cable modems and STBs, not to mention their mobile communications business, none of which will be going away anytime soon). Moto's ace-in-the-hole (as far as their cell-handset business)? Believe it or not, it's the CDMA handset business (specifically with VZW), where the RAZR and variants show no signs of slowing up.
Sprint is under fire (but not due to Motorola), primarily due to encroachment from VZW and (somewhat) AT&T Mobility. Sprint has to find a way to re-differentiate itself as a carrier (in a positive way); unless it does, it's screwed. | |
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| Re: Anyone surprised? said by PGHammer :However, Core has been a blockbuster for Intel. In fact, the Core microarchitecture is popping up in places you wouldn't have expected to find Intel *anything* even two years ago. I'm not just talking desktops, but HPC workstations and servers (lest anyone forget, every XEON is Core-based), laptops, notebooks, UMPCs, even Macs (from super-lightweight to ultra-heavyweight). Core hasn't just clobbered AMD; Core is also directly responsible for chasing National Semiconductor out of the general-purpose CPU business entirely. Core 2 has simply extended Intel's lead to the supremely silly; Intel is now basically competing with *itself*. Intel is at the point where they are getting ready to EOL a processor that is too powerful for general-purpose use that is priced for for such use (I'm referring to the Q6600, formerly known as Kentsfield; a server processor in desktop clothing at desktop-processor prices.) I don't understand this. Why wouldn't Intel have used their current CPU tech in these devices? Both Intel and AMD have always done this, so it's a non-issue. And the first run of Core wasn't that great and didn't do dual core and couldn't even do decent dual CPU. Like I said, their roles are currently reversed. I think AMD will eventually come out with something that will leapfrog Intel. It's not like there isn't a history of this happening. | |
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On Dell's site, when you narrow down the laptops by processor 5 are Intel, 3 are AMD.
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| Re: Anyone surprised? Verizon Wireless purchasing Sprint would be similar to AT&T purchasing T-Mobile... they compete in the same markets.
Alltel is primarily rural CDMA 1x/EVDO
Sprint is primarily urband CDMA 1x/EVDO
Verizon wireless typically covers a lot of Sprint/Alltel footprint. Verizon Wireless would try and be a spoiler to any deal between the 2. Also, Alltel most likely wouldn't want anything to do with Sprint's Nextel.
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| Re: Anyone surprised? Alltel was a better target, since they have lots and lots of area that isn't overlapped with Verizon Wireless. Remember, if Alltel+Verizon Wireless in same area, no GSM in the area (Alltel runs GSM for roamers in some areas, inherited from one company they bought). Only chance of GSM is urban Tmobile/Cingular on 1900, which always means bad to no reception in rural areas.
Alltel was taken private I belive, it can't be bought anymore. | |
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| I think its time sprint either spin off Nextel and sell it off or sell of sprint to raise some cash and stick to one product or even intergrate the whole thing taking the best features and selling one company or the others name and products to stay afloat.
I don't think Alltel having gone private wants to do any deals other than if they did decide to grow, make an offer to sprint instead of sprint offering to buy Alltel.
Sprint is in no position unless they sell off one of there products.
ATT & Verizon are the walmarts of BELLS (seek and devour) Sprint is looking more and more like the underdog. Remeber Woolworths?
Mergers are the only thing that is going to keep these guys afloat. Need more money and bigger foot print and customers and you have to have the investors behind you with the Cash. | |
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| Sprint has screwed up big time.
Analysts have suggested a proper WiMax backhaul network within the larger cities could save Spring up to 20 billion dollars in backhaul fees. They never went for it for some reason. WiMax can provide a fault tolerant non line of sight backhaul network for cellular calls. | |
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| Re: Anyone surprised? said by JakCrow :Sprint ruining another company would not be 'good'. What company did they ruin? Surely your not thinking it was Nextel? You know, the company that lied to it's employees that everything was ok while is on the brink of bankruptcy while it was bleeding money left and right with no end in site. The company who was already having issues with it's network interfering with public service spectrum and having the FCC tell them they needed to buy other spectrum and move or risk loosing everything. Naw.. it couldn't be that company.  | |
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| Not at all, funny thing is that Yaesu got some high profile selling radio to NYC and Motorola apparently started to look into merger.
Things have been quiet at Motorola, but I am curious about the Merger that was to take place, but Motorola and Samsung it is a possibility.
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| Re: Anyone surprised? Merging with NextHELL was the death of Sprint.
Nextel had a fantastic product back in the 2000-2002's. Then, all hell broke loose.
Nextel is a cursed company for some reason.
When Sprint ate Nextel, they got Nextel's disease.....
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| Re: Anyone surprised? said by BillTager :Sprint had plenty of its own ailments long before Nextel came along. To be honest, I didn't pay much attention to Sprint before the merger and I was a Nextel customer at the time the merger went down.
Towards the end of my Nextel contract, I was counting the days until I could get out. That was about 3 years ago. Nextel had become nothing short of a train wreck. Customer service was beyond agonizing, the phones would constantly "reboot" and lose connection. Using direct connect was like walking into a closed door in the dark.
One of my employers still uses Nextel for car to car communications. The service is so un usable, most of the time we carry our personal cell phones and contact each over via the same. The only reason we even sign the Nextels out is the chief tells us we have to. Other than that, they go mostly un used over the course of a shift.
I'm sure Nextel has SOME satisfied users, but every time I try and DC someone at work and get that agonizing "user not available" tone I thank God I've left Nextel squarely in my past...
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| said by BillTager :Sprint had plenty of its own ailments long before Nextel came along. Yep.. it was it's WIRELESS division. The LTD and WIRELINE side was doing great before Wireline/Wireless became one. Then, the WHOLE company looked like crap and still does.  | |
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| Re: Anyone surprised? said by tc1uscg :said by BillTager :Sprint had plenty of its own ailments long before Nextel came along. Yep.. it was it's WIRELESS division. The LTD and WIRELINE side was doing great before Wireline/Wireless became one. Then, the WHOLE company looked like crap and still does. A big thanks of recognition from legacy Wireline!.
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| Re: Anyone surprised? said by old_dawg :said by tc1uscg :said by BillTager :Sprint had plenty of its own ailments long before Nextel came along. Yep.. it was it's WIRELESS division. The LTD and WIRELINE side was doing great before Wireline/Wireless became one. Then, the WHOLE company looked like crap and still does. A big thanks of recognition from legacy Wireline!. Company has been ruined by management that chases the next bright, shiny object without staying on track. It's called bleeding edge for a reason...as in capital, stock price, and personnel. Yes.. I think monthly drug tests should be imposed. | |
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| AMD has some big problems. They aren't likely to survive much longer without some radical changes.
I kinda like the idea of IBM picking up AMD. Doubt it will happen, IBM has been moving away from products and into services for awhile now, but, IBM and AMD have collaborated in the past.
I really don't want to see AMD fold up and we be left with Intel as king for CPU's and Nvidia as king for graphics cards. That just means we'll get taken for a ride on computer hardware, like the past....
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| Seems everyone is missing the big picture. Yahoo!, Ford motor, & Citigroup are also mentioned in the article.
The common thread is all of these American companies can only be bought by foreign companies. Last year, foreign investors poured a record $414 billion into securing stakes in American companies, factories and other properties through private deals. Including major positions & future options in every major Wall street investment firm, U.S. Banks, and other Fortune 1000 companies.
Chinese, Koren, and Indian investors are buying our empty foreclosures in blocks of 500 for future rentals.
We offshored most manufacturing/production over the past 25 years.
We imported cheap service labor/poverty over the past 20 years.
Now we are being forced to sell off many of our remaining U.S. business assets.
We are currently the largest debtor nation the world has ever seen.
We as Americans will see the day soon, very soon, where don't own or produce jack shit. We will just be little TeeeVeee watching consumer-bots cashing our service job checks down at the corner Bank of Saudi...wondering WTF happened.
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| Doubt It 1. AMD - Intel needs AMD as much as anyone. They are the only two competitors in the mainstream processor market. Not sure exactly what will happen to AMD but I doubt they are going anywhere.
2. Motorola - I haven't followed them as closely but as I understand it they are having trouble in with their Cell Phone division. I could see that being sold off to another company but they have other areas like Cable modems, Cable boxes and other areas that should remain strong.
3. Qwest - Is certainly in need of real leadership. They've been in a holding pattern for several years. I would like to see them get bought out by Verizon as that would be very good for the areas they cover. I hope that AT&T doesn't try to acquire them as that would be worse then the holding pattern they are in IMHO.
4. Sprint - Sprint does look like it's having lots of troubles holding on to customers. Reports that I've seen have indicated that their customer service is one of the biggest reasons why the aren't doing well and haven't for a long time. If anything happens to them it will likely be a take over from one of the larger cell phone providers like Verizon. | |
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| Sprint actually has pretty decent tech support and customer service now. They fixed that problem a couple months ago, I haven't spoke to an Indian call center since about october, all representatives appear to be based in the US now. Their biggest problem is their failed merger with Nextel. Most of the subscribers losses are Nextel subscribers. Theirs is a prime example of a completely failed merger. They were companies that were focused at completely different market segments. Nextel had really great customer service and was focused primarily at business customers. Sprint was focused at consumers. When Sprint took over they tried to farm out everything to India which the business owners liked as much as a punch in the face. Neither company embraced the others technology, they didn't merge phones, they didn't merge services and they had separate management teams all up until recently. Although the previous CEO recognized too late that the outsourcing to India killed them and reversed the process it was way to late to save his job.
The new CEO has been on staff for a couple weeks now, give him 6months to a year to clean house, do a staff reduction or two and fire all the managers that have impeded the merger. Once that house is in order the churn will likely stabilize and they can look at growing their share of the market. First thing he did when he came on staff was fire a good chunk of the top management. IMO that was a very good move. | |
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Having been "served" by Verizon for a few years I was glad to relocate to a Qwest area (actually any non-Verizon area would be OK). Being treated as the enemy by your Telco provider )Verizon) gets old pretty quick. I certainly hope Verizon does not buy Qwest. But if they do there are two good VoIP providers here so I won't get stuck with the bottom of the barrel Verizon. | |
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| Re: AMD I hope they stay too. They have good technology and were responsible for making 64-bit technology available to the masses via their X64 instruction set that Intel ultimately wound up adopting. Unfortunately they just do not have the size and capital needed to stay competitive. If they disappear, Intel hardware is going to get much more expensive than it is now and I think much competition driven innovation will disappear.
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| Motherola Is still very strong in the land-mobile (two-way) radio business. They just recently acquired Vertex Standard, another big player in that market.
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1 edit | Re: Motherola said by drjim :Is still very strong in the land-mobile (two-way) radio business. They just recently acquired Vertex Standard, another big player in that market. I suspect they'll be around much longer than "next year". yep, that's one industry that will always make them money hand over fist. They did great research there with the 68xxHC (I think that's the chip number)chips in the 2 way radios.
There's some good trunking systems they have had. There's a group here in STL that is contracted as the primary installer and maintenance unit for motorola radios. I think they are called Saint Louis Electronics? or something like that. As far as motorola going under? I could make a vegas prediction that one is "not going to happen".
They would have to make some really boneheaded moves.
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| couple things... 1. AMD: they bought ATI, not a partnership. AMD should've partnered up with ATI, instead of buying them. They would've saved money. What AMD needs to do is to sell off all their fabs (maybe keep 1), use that money to pay off all or most of their debt (keep at an acceptable level). Then use the rest to fund development. Out source all actual building of processors to other companies. Spin off ATI (reverse the buyout), then start selling shares (for money) over time. Then create a partnership to continue development (fusion, etc.) And replace the CEO. If AMD gets bought, there's Applied Materials, IBM, Samsung, TI, any others?
2. Motorola: word that they're leaving the cell phone market, but their name is well known here. If Samsung buys them, would they keep the Motorola brand name for certain markets? Would this deal be approved? Maybe Motorola will sell off just parts of the company to other companies. Maybe Motorola needs to buy a large company to get into other markets (networking, Nortel, etc).
3. Qwest: AT&T has a better chance at buying them, than Verizon. Remember, Verizon is selling off their RURAL areas . They wouldn't want Qwest, unless they buy them, then sell off the rural areas, or just buy some of the parts (or major cities). What Qwest needs to do is buy some companies (XO and Global Crossing, highest revenue while paying the least, and taking on the least amount of debt, stock swap here). A combined MetroPCS, and Leap Wireless would make a new national wireless company. Buy both, again use stock. They only have about a $1 billion cash. It would hurt their cash flow (and stock price) if they used a lot of it.
4. Sprint: they'll probably spin off their WiMax into Clearwire, like the reports say. The Xohm name could be dropped or market it as "Xohm from Clearwire" or something like that. Rumors of Sprint/Qwest in a merger. This could've started from talks that Qwest is interested in Sprint's fiber operations. So what could happen is this, plus a Sprint/Alltel merger, or a cable company (Comcast) buying Sprint's wireless operations. Comcast taking telco customers away by offering phone service, so telcos are getting into the tv business. U-verse and Fios tv should take some customers back due to Comcast's high prices (and rising). The telcos have the quad play advantage here. Comcast does not. So a Sprint buy would make sense, and it's now within their price range. It won't be Verizon, I can't imagine a 65 mil customers company gaining another 43 mil. That would make it 108 mil customers vs. 2nd then, at nearly 70 mil. | |
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| Re: Give me a break... said by not quite right :I guess Motorola didn't sell enough Razors ??????? By design and quality Motorola always seems to make a comeback on the cell phone market. I see more Razors out there than I do the so called leader Nokia.
Until the flip phone was introduced way back by Motorola I was a Nokia fan. But now that Nokia is trying out the flip market I still see them coming back to late with that now everyone wants smart phones I-phones and gadget phones.
I think if Moto stays in they will come back with something real worth while to fend off other companies who are new to the market including Samsung, LG, ect...
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1 edit | Exactly, X-digit. No story here.
Concerning Qwest: No one wants them with the longest copper miles per customer (i.e. cost) than any other region/provider. I would question any company stupid enough to buy them. | |
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rcdailey
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join:2005-03-29
Rialto, CA | Re: Give me a break... I guess those in Qwest territory could switch to sat phones or smoke signals, whichever work better. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | Is Qwest the one with the rumored 100,000 foot loops? | |
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dvd536
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | Qwest Just needs to die already so verizon can come take over and get me fios 
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| pepperxn
join:2001-02-21
| Re: Qwest said by dvd536 :Just needs to die already so verizon can come take over and get me fios That's all some people care about, fios. For wanting a company to go under, just so vz buys them, and gives them fios. VZ doesn't want rural areas. They're selling it off. They want cities. Can you imagine VZ deploying fiber in Qwest areas. They're gonna be spending way more than $24 bil. Try $30-40 bil. Just for a network upgrade.
There was a rumor that Vodafone would buy VZ, and sell off their landlines to private equity. The first thing they'll do is end fios to save money.
Qwest agrees with AT&T and their FTTN plan. It's basically a half upgrade, and they said that they could go FTTH later on when it's cheaper. U-Verse is easier to deploy than fios. VZ has crappy lines, so they have to replace their copper. | |
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Maccawolf
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Hillsdale, NJ | Motorola? I don't think they'll be going ANYWHERE any time soon..... | |
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| clickie
join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI
| Re: Motorola? Exactly. This article speaks about one market segment for Motorola -- cellular phones. If Motorola dropped cell phone handsets tomorrow, it wouldn't be much of a hit.
The article neglects the billions of dollars spent on Motorola radios for emergency responders just in this country. It neglects the commercial communications equipment. Or put another way, it seems the author didn't put much research into the article and just assumed the entire company would be bought out.
Highly unlikely. | |
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The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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join:2005-01-03
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| I couldn't care less I'd be perfectly happy if all four companies fell off the face of the Earth.
1) I've had much better luck with Intels, mostly regarding stability. When I was a big AMD fan, I had to reboot once or twice daily, whether I did it myself or the machine decided to do it sans my permission. Switched to Intel, no problem. And I can run OSX, too.
2) (Re the cell phone division) Poor product quality, plain and simple. And the shortest battery life of almost all manufacturers.
3) The slowest DSL speeds of all DSL providers. When I lived in the middle of Spokane, WA (pop. 200,000) Comcast could provide me with 8/768. Qwest could only give me 1.5/768. In the middle of the second largest city in Washington.
4) All though I have no personal experience or reason for bias with Sprint, with all the horror stories I have heard about their customer service, no company that treats their customers the way Sprint does deserves to be in business.
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cbiggers
join:2000-08-10
San Luis Obispo, CA
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1 edit | Motorola What's with all the Motorola bashing I've seen lately? And who hires these analysts to write these reports? Motorola still has huge government contracts - that alone is enough to keep them going. Not to mention their 2 way radio products, which many business' use, along again with the government (local and national). They aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
PS: As far as cell phones, the little KRAZR and other silly little phones are bad. But many of their other models are rock solid, and ask anyone about reception/call quality, and they will recommend a Motorola. Ever heard of an E815? Try and find a more robust phone than that. | |
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brorjace
join:2007-12-09
Hamilton, ON
| Well then...some pretty fancy predictions The Canadian Division of Sprint used to be pretty big up here and they were bought out by Telco Giant Rogers Communications.
I don't think AMD will disappear any time soon.
Nor will Motorola (perhaps sell their Cell Phone division, but they're pushing their Digital Set Tops and Cable Modem/eMTAs pretty good in the last fiscal, so I wouldn't expect them to disappear.
I don't know the deal with Sprint in the US, but I know I see a lot of their commercials so they spend a lot on advertising, maybe not enough on customer retention?
As for Qwest, I dunno about them, but their newscasters on Q13 are annoying :P | |
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MalibuMaxx
join:2007-02-06
Chesterton, IN
·Comcast
| I couldnt see the first two AMD - Will probably partner with Via not to mention people are still purchasing there products and they also have the ATI...
Motorola - Makes phones... razor is practically in almost everyones hands... even though they havent had a hit lately they did have a hit with it not to mention all the cable boxes and modems they move... idk couldnt see them get swallowed by samsung... and I dont support samsung... | |
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| SyNiSt3r
join:2007-04-26
Morristown, TN
| Amd WILL not Die I dont care how many times i hear people say AMD is doomed they will NOT die. They arent going out of business. Amd is producing great graphics cards, They will fix the issues with their chips and will move along. All AMD needs to do is execute their Roadmaps and work hard at coming up with some faster chips. We will all be rich before amd is out of business. | |
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prestonlewis
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join:2003-04-13
Sacramento, CA
·VoiceStick
| Don't like some of these Without AMD, intel will virtually be a monopoly. Won't chip prices rise? We need to continue to have a good competitor to Intel to keep prices down.
Would hate to see Sprint bite the dust. They are the last vestige of Southern Pacific Railway. Sprint began as Southern Pacific Rail's INTernal communication system, hence the acronym SPRINT). Fiber was laid next so SP's rails and when AT&T lost their long distance monopoly in the late 70s, Southern Pacific Rail with their SPRINT division became the first competitor (or at least one of the first).
Hate to see Qwest go too. Losing PacBell/Pacific Telesys here in California to SBC really has set us behind in terms of data service. SBC doesn't seem too interested in California/Nevada where Pacific Bell operated. Having only SBC (now at&t, no capitals) and Verizon as the only 2 major phone companies in the US is not appealing to me. I have at&t and Comcast and Comcast is much, much easier to deal with (although I don't like them that much either). | |
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mckenna797
join:2004-08-25
Astoria, NY | Re: Don't like some of these Motorola will be around for a very long time they have huge defense contract ,contracts for law enforcement agencies at the federal, state and local levels contract, with fire departments and emergency medical service,s | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | Re: Don't like some of these $ for life. When your a government contractor, you keep the government hostage. | |
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| grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03
New York, NY
| Chip prices might rise, but that isn't where the real hurt will come in for consumers. Chip prices only have a certain leeway until consumers just can't afford to upgrade and you see diminishing returns. The real problem will be Intel slowing down chip advancements and making inferior chips to increase their revenue and decrease R&D costs. AMD currently prevents Intel from simply doing what they did with the P4 which was basically just to crank out higher clocked unstable P4s (prescott) and claim it as an advance in their architecture. The K8 gave Intel a run for their money which resulted in the Core 2 monsters we have now. AMD isn't going anywhere though... | |
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RailRoadDude
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join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
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1 edit | said by prestonlewis :Would hate to see Sprint bite the dust. They are the last vestige of Southern Pacific Railway. Sprint began as Southern Pacific Rail's INTernal communication system, hence the acronym SPRINT). Fiber was laid next so SP's rails and when AT&T lost their long distance monopoly in the late 70s, Southern Pacific Rail with their SPRINT division became the first competitor (or at least one of the first). By the way, the Union Pacific Railroad is the nation's largest private fiber owner/operator in the US. Actually, the SP is alive and well on the Union Pacific, SP heritage units painted in SP Daylight Colors, many units still roaming the UP System in UP and DRGW colors, SP/Amtrak stations, etc. Just check the Wastewater tank in the UP's Dunsmuir, CA yards, the SP logo and and a diesel and Daylight Steam Engine coming from both sides of it proudly proclaim Southern Pacific, then there's the SP Daylight 4449 and SP E9, both operating and painted in SP Daylight Colors. Yep, even though the SP was merged into the UP in 1996, the heritage lives on.
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BillTager
join:2000-09-20
Charlotte, NC
1 edit | Hello, Look at the stock prices It's funny, hardly any of the comments so far mention one of the most critical elements in determining which of these companies stay or go; stock price.
The article itself mentions it, but I've long been convinced that most people who post about the news stories here don't read them; preferring instead to armchair QB.
Anyway, when you look at the history of the stock prices of these companies, and you see how low they are now compared to their highs, you can see how attractive they become to stronger companies. Couple that low stock price with a technology, process, or ability that others would kill to have (i.e. Yahoos revenue run rate of about $6.8 billion a year), and it's only a matter of time before you see these companies 'disappear'.
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join:2005-02-17
Belleville, MI
| I dunno... I've been an AMD enthusiast and supporter since I've used computers. I do think they need some help as far as having another large vendor pushing more of their chips, but most average consumers don't care if there is a VIA, AMD, or intel chip in their boxen; just that they work.
I've been a sprint customer for about 6 years now, and I've been pretty satisfied with their service. No one in the US has a more robust and widespread wireless data (EVDO) network, and that really comes in handy. I believe that is Sprint's corner on the market. They offer unlimited evdo access that just happens to actually be unlimited. Their main competitor, Verizon, does not. The only problem I've ever had with sprint is when I've had to call customer service for one reason or another. They have all kinds of problems in that department. As far as the Sprint/Nextel merger goes, yes, Nextel may have hurt them pretty bad, and they may have hurt Nextel pretty bad, but think about the millions of government subs they inherited with the deal. You KNOW they're making money, they just need to cut the fat and make their customer service worth while, and they'll be okay. | |
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4 Companies That Could Disappear By Year’s End
