  Maxo Your tax dollars at work. Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL clubs: | For shame! For shame! | |
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  Defcon888 Premium join:2003-07-22 San Bruno, CA | Eh Oh dang... but I'm sure theres still ISOs of this somewhere out there... -- ...gnirob gnikaerf os si gis ym | |
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 |   Vamp 5c077 Premium join:2003-01-28 MD | Re: Hurry! Its probably possible to find it in some stores, so hurry and look before its to late. | |
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 |  badoldman
join:2004-02-15 Baytown, TX | I just downloaded the latest update not 30 minutes ago. Go and get while you can. | |
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 |  mabney4235
join:2003-08-28 North Olmsted, OH | If you want a copy of DVD X Copy go to »ftp://products.321studios.com You can download all versions straight from the source,as far as activation goes, you're on your own | |
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| While you can still find e-stores that sell the product, interestingly, when I try to navigate to »www.dvdxcopy.com, Internet Explorer encounters an error and restarts IE. The site is apparently being blocked. -- DAMOX | |
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| Re: Hurry! said by damox : when I try to navigate to »www.dvdxcopy.com, Internet Explorer encounters an error and restarts IE. The site is apparently being blocked.
Something is *wrong* with your system. Sorry. I get there fine. | |
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| Re: Hurry! You are right! I traced the problem down to the Distributed Computing Clients I run for Team Discovery TSC. I am running two instances, one for each processor. They take up quite a bit of the processing power. When I stop the task engines, I can then get to the site without a problem. When I start the task engines again and then navigate to the site, IE encounters a error and closes. How odd! I haven't had that problem with any other site. Hmmm . . . that's very interesting. -- DAMOX | |
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 |  |  |  |   kchaz Just...Be Premium,MVM join:2002-02-12 Merced, CA clubs:  | Re: Hurry! »www.321studios.com/news.htm
here's a link to all the News that DVD X Copy is responding to... -- BBR America's Army Clan: [BBR]KcHaZ | |
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 |   Dustyn Premium join:2003-02-26 Ontario, CAN
| *ughhhh* This is so lame... 
Why pay for it? Just download it for nothing!!
You can find alternate programs that do a much better job. -- I AM THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE!! ~ Courtney Love | |
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 |   Vamp 5c077 Premium join:2003-01-28 MD
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| Ahh, yeah I guess i have to agree that dvd shrink, dvd decrypter, and other freewares are much better for backing up dvd's.. And anydvd (not freeware) but can make them region free. -- :: My current desktop :: | |
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  Mactron el Camino Real Premium join:2001-12-16 CM94sv | Sigh... DVDshrink:D | |
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 |  tonekilla Pipe Dreams Premium join:2003-07-26 Gunnison, MS clubs: | Re: Sigh... I second that.  | |
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join:2001-12-31 Wallingford, CT
| Re: Sigh... said by tonekilla : I second that. 
roger that. easy to use program. and the price is right. another freebie is dvd decrypter. shrink lets you reauthor the disc and remove all the fluff. highly recommend it. | |
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 |   gracie Geek Goddess Premium join:2003-07-15 confusion
| said by Mactron : DVDshrink:D
which is the authentic site? found copies on dvdshrink.org, com, info, etc. not to mention other sites and realize it's just the kind of program that might be "re-engineered" to include a nasty. -- graciella! "not tonight dear, I have DSL." Creating SuperOrganizations Worldwide | |
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| said by Mactron : DVDshrink:D
Ditto
DVDxcopy = RIPOFF!!!! -- I tie a rope around my penis and jump from a tree, don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!!!! | |
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 |   dadkins Merry Whatever Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
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| Re: Practically Spyware ? "- An electronic watermark that can trace any backup copy made with DVDXCOPY back to the original point of purchase allowing 321 Studios to remotely de-activate the software and prevent further misuse."
Well, guess who just got added to my block list. 
Since they did not specify if it was all versions or not, I just downloaded all versions... | |
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| Re: Practically Spyware ? said by dadkins : "- An electronic watermark that can trace any backup copy made with DVDXCOPY back to the original point of purchase allowing 321 Studios to remotely de-activate the software and prevent further misuse."
That's what a firewall is for. Just block it from accessing the internet. -- Browsing with Mozilla Firebird 0.7 | |
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join:2002-06-13 Ottsville, PA | Re: Practically Spyware ? I know it does place a text file with some encrypted info on any DVD it burns (put it in a DVD-ROM drive, see for yourself) | |
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join:2001-11-08 Houston, TX
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| Re: Practically Spyware ? said by sycocowz : I know it does place a text file with some encrypted info on any DVD it burns (put it in a DVD-ROM drive, see for yourself)
That's very easy to bypass and eliminate so that there is no tattle tale files or signatures recorded ... | |
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 ParanoiaInc
join:2002-08-28 Tucker, GA
| As an author, I'm screwed!?! So, if I author DVD's and decide to use this software to make copies of my stuff I am actually breaking the law? I phucked up judge thought his cheating wife should be his wrath down on people like me?
Is there a name of this judge, or is he already in hiding? | |
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 |   Voyager2K2
join:2001-10-04 Wayne, PA
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| Re: As an author, I'm screwed!?! said by ParanoiaInc : So, if I author DVD's and decide to use this software to make copies of my stuff I am actually breaking the law? I phucked up judge thought his cheating wife should be his wrath down on people like me?
Is there a name of this judge, or is he already in hiding?
You are kidding, right? You can make as many copies of your own work using a variety of DVD copy programs incorporated into commercial/freeware burning programs. If you choose to add CSS, Macrovision and/or RCE then you do have a problem, but there are legal programs that would allow you to do that as well. | |
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 |  |  Freezone
join:2000-09-29 Southfield, MI | Re: As an author, I'm screwed!?! If he adds protection to it I would assume he is smart eno9ugh to have a unprotected version somewhere.
So i do not think he has a problem no matter what. | |
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join:2001-11-08 Houston, TX
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| Re: As an author, I'm screwed!?! It's amazing that even the judges themselves don't know the law these days.
Sadly that's a trend that seems to get worse daily as the world continues to hear a great sucking sound of more IQ points being lost each and every day.
It is perfectly LEGAL to copy any and all copyrighted material AND THAT INCLUDES COPY PROTECTED DVDs provided that such a backup is STRICTLY for archival purposes only should your original copy become damaged, that you do indeed hold a license (IE: legitimate original) of what you are copying, and you do not distribute the backup made to any third party.
If ALL of those conditions listed above are all met, then the copying is indeed perfectly legal despite what these idiot moron judges say mainly out of pure ignorance. Don't believe me? Go look it up!
I've got news for the judge in this case ... bypassing copy protection or encryption mechanisms in place is actually perfectly legal and the judge is completely in error and not ruling with the law. You may not realize this but the DVD manufacturers using copy protection on their DVDs itself is actually technically illegal according to the laws currently on the books. I'm talking about the actual laws, not the case law.
What is actually in question of legality is WHAT IS ACTUALLY DONE WITH THOSE COPIES that are made?
Copying a copyrighted DVD and give it to your brother or a friend ... THAT IS ILLEGAL.
Copying a copyrighted DVD for which you purchased the original so you can upload to P2P networks ... THAT IS ILLEGAL.
Copying a copyrighted DVD for which you purchased the original so you can sell the original and keep the copy for yourself .... THAT IS ILLEGAL.
Copying a copyrighted DVD for your own personal use to which you have purchased the original .... THAT IS PERFECTLY LEGAL. | |
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join:2003-07-20 Alabaster, AL
| Re: As an author, I'm screwed!?! The owner of a disc bypassing copy protection is legal. Creating and selling a program that does that is not legal. That is what the judge ruled illegal. He never said an individual could not copy the DVD, just the company could not sell them the product to do that.
Nice rant on the right to make a backup copy, but that has nothing to do with why the "idiot moron" judge ruled against DVDxcopy. | |
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 |  |  |   richk_1957 If ..Then..Else Premium join:2001-04-11 Minas Tirith
| In case anyone remembers : When the MP3 sharing business first started, the RIAA came out with the line 'any copying of Compact Discs that contain copyrighted material is illegal' no matter what [ you can't make a copy. period. It came out in court [for a different matter, I don't remember what] that archival copies are legal and the judge didn't buy that, he said more copies were made for the purpose of pirating than archiving. The case got thrown out on a technicality and the issue became small potatoes compared to P2P file sharing, so it died out. That's one of the big things about the DMCA - it practically does away with 'fair use'. And I've heard it before that copyright protection actually violates the fair use laws - each time, the big companies (RIAA, MPAA, Movie Studios) makes a big cry 'Piracy", 'lost revenues', 'hurts the economy' and others and since they have a practically unlimited budget, they drown out the little guy (The consumer - US). Until someone with Really deep pocket goes against them, I don't see anything changing, unfortunately. In theory, everyone is equal under the law, but the more money you have, the more equal you are  | |
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join:2003-06-08 | mmmmmmmmmmm...... DOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | |
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join:2001-10-04 Wayne, PA
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| Karma Well ever since 321 Studios introduced DVD Copy Plus .... quote: As you may know, DVDXCopy was the first commercial tool to split commercial DVD-9s to two DVD±Rs. It was initially pretty buggy but the company behind it eventually hired the author of IfoEdit to improve it - which has effectively killed of any further IfoEdit development. That, and the fact that the company is selling a package of freeware tools and a guide to create (S)VCDs has not earned them many friends so many people have avoided using DVDXCopy
Source: Doom9
Basically you can get DVDFab to split up a DVD-9 to 2 DVD-5's and the communtiy gets Derrow back. No loss at all IMHO. DVDxCopy was nothing special to begin with and there are many less costly/freeware packages that enable you to make archival copies of DVDs you own. | |
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join:2000-09-12 Fort Lauderdale, FL edit: February 21st, @05:00PM
| Re: Karma Can you give some recommendations? And are there programs that just rip portions of DVDs? I don't have a DVD burner yet, just a player, and would like to copy parts to my hard drive. | |
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 |  |  tonekilla Pipe Dreams Premium join:2003-07-26 Gunnison, MS clubs: | Re: Karma read up on dvdshrink. It's freeware and is a great program. -- Gotta love SBC's 6000/608 plan for $44.99! | |
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  copperdoctor Premium join:2003-12-08 Palatine, IL | Out of the loop The only good thing about being technologically behind like myself is the fact that so many products have been invented,tested,marketed,purchased and then found to be illegal before I ever had a chance to buy steal them. | |
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  GNXPower Got Boost? Premium join:2003-12-18 Huntington Beach, CA
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| And the judge had to side with the DMCA ...and not the Fair Use Provision of Title 17 which clearly permits duplication for archival purposes. So because criminals can use the software to make illegal copies those who legally used the software can no longer do so.
What's next. Banning cars cause crooks use them for getaway cars? Banning guns cause they're used for crimes? How about banning alcohol 'cause of the crime that occasionally results from it?
Simply, the judge could have struck down the DMCA in favor of Title 17 which has been around quite a bit longer. -- To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be. | |
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  saber11 Check Six Premium join:2000-06-09 Clayton, OH | 321 should say "UP YOURS" Since they can no longer sell DVDxCopy, they should GPL the source and dump the source on the net as NON-Supported code. -- I know what I know, and that's about it. | |
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join:2001-03-23 Milwaukee, WI | DVD Shrink DVD Shrink is way better than DVDxCopy ever was, easier to use, easier to customize and easier to burn. -- The Power of Dreams. Powered by Honda | |
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 |   CoxCable4 Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02 PwnZone moderated: February 21st, @09:13PM
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 |  Imogen8
join:2001-11-04 UK
| "DVD Shrink is way better than DVDxCopy ever was, easier to use, easier to customize and easier to burn."
Well no actually, dvdshrink cannot manipulate menu's etc. You try and re-author a dvd with dvdhrink and you will find that the menus no longer work.
You ever used either?
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join:2001-10-04 Wayne, PA
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| Re: DVD Shrink said by Imogen8 : "DVD Shrink is way better than DVDxCopy ever was, easier to use, easier to customize and easier to burn."
Well no actually, dvdshrink cannot manipulate menu's etc. You try and re-author a dvd with dvdhrink and you will find that the menus no longer work.
You ever used either?
Imi
That's how Derrow saved DVDxCOPY's tail. Always run IFOEdit95 (Derrow's little baby) and it fixes up whatever boo-boo's DVDShrink leaves behind. | |
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  M A R K St. Ides Heaven Premium join:2001-06-15 Long Island clubs:
| GOOD, They suck anyway i HATE this company, they actually threatened a law suit against me for a program i made that was just like theres and i sold it on eBay. They had eBay shut down every other auction just like mine. When the got my name from eBay the offed to sell me 200 copies of there shit at a small discount to sell on ebay. They did this to every one selling DVD copy guides , ebooks and home brewed software. -- The Passion Of The Christ.. | |
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join:2001-11-04 UK
| Re: GOOD, They suck anyway said by M A R K : i HATE this company, they actually threatened a law suit against me for a program i made that was just like theres and i sold it on eBay. They had eBay shut down every other auction just like mine. When the got my name from eBay the offed to sell me 200 copies of there shit at a small discount to sell on ebay. They did this to every one selling DVD copy guides , ebooks and home brewed software.
Complete b*llshit. | |
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 |  |   M A R K St. Ides Heaven Premium join:2001-06-15 Long Island clubs: | Re: GOOD, They suck anyway you think so , i have no problem posting every single email that i received from them and eBay | |
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| Re: GOOD, They suck anyway said by M A R K : you think so , i have no problem posting every single email that i received from them and eBay
I wanna read that! -- "The only thing thats worse than being blind is having sight but no vision." | |
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join:2000-07-06 Salix, IA
| Hope the MPAA sues them out of existance I bought their bundled shareware freeware to make svcd's when it didn't work tried to get my money back no success. did the research and found better ways.Now I use DVDDecxxxx donationware and I paypal a few $ when I download an update and DVD2One about 30$ and fast,and burn with nero.No coasters works on both home players my laptop and my daughters Ibook and her roommates home player. I did try a cracked version of xcopy and it bites. | |
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 |   BIGMIKE "I do not know with what weapons World W Premium join:2002-06-07 Westminster, CA edit: February 21st, @06:25PM
| Re: Hope the MPAA sues them out of existance that means free DVDXCopy_Platinum for the takeing:D
all the maker of DVDXCopy haft to do is just change the name of the program | |
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join:2001-07-27 canada edit: February 21st, @06:17PM
| Whats next??? Next, they'll try to go after other software that achieves the same thing, like DVDshrink. Unbelievable, oh well, theres always other software out there. Maybe dvdxcopy will go underground. -- | |
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 |   Sarick It's Only Logical Premium join:2003-06-03 USA | Re: Whats next??? It dosn't help us get a copy if we don't know who writes dvdshrink or where to get it..
The main webpage please? | |
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join:2000-07-06 Salix, IA | www.doom9.org
all you ever wanted to know about dvd ripping (er Backup) that is | |
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  z28kindaguy Premium join:2002-02-18 Brooklyn, MD clubs: | Appeal Can't they appeal? | |
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  tiger72 SexaT duorP Premium join:2001-03-28 Kansas City, MO clubs: | long live free copying »dvd.box.sk | |
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 |   BIGMIKE "I do not know with what weapons World W Premium join:2002-06-07 Westminster, CA | Re: long live free copying I bet some one pade the judge  | |
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  Authority Obama Biden '12
join:2000-03-29 Beverly Hills, CA edit: February 21st, @08:07PM
| Don't worry! They will just move off shore or a product from another more liberal jurisdiction will fill the void.  | |
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 |  LordBritish
join:2003-08-02 Marina Del Rey, CA
| Re: Don't worry! I've tried nearly all DVD copying software.
The following are the ones i've tried:
DVDXCopy - It's ok, don't like ID marking DVD2One - Very Fast, and good quality InstantCopy - Slow, but best quality, a little buggy CloneDVD - Good interface, image quality is so-so
There's DVDShrink which I haven't tried yet.
DVDDecrypter is da bomb for decrypting to HD. Use it all the time and it's free.
There ya go - I won't miss DVDXCopy. | |
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