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2 edits | Spbot is fine for me. I just use spybot. It works just fine for me. But I do know that a lot of people use both spybot and adaware. But I am going to download spywareblaster. Just havent got around to it. They are free! Oh yeah, I almost forgot......First post! wooohoooo -- WinXP,Kaspersky AV,Tauscan 1.6,Outpost Pro,IE & Opera,Becky! 2.07 | |
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 |   CO_Chris Premium join:2001-08-28 Broomfield, CO | Re: Spbot is fine for me. I Use Ad-aware and it works great . If there is better i would try it to | |
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join:2002-06-20 Charlotte, NC | Re: Spbot is fine for me. SpySweeper works great!! | |
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join:2000-07-05 Greensboro, NC | Not to make this a spybot vs. ad-aware dispute, spybot finds a heck of alot more spyware on a PC the the latter. Plus its ability to download updates to detect new spyware makes it incredibly accurate. | |
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join:2002-12-07 Rochester, NY | Re: Spbot is fine for me. Heck, both of them do a good job. What I do is run ad-aware first then spybot to double check. | |
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| Re: Spbot is fine for me. said by tdkyo : Heck, both of them do a good job. What I do is run ad-aware first then spybot to double check.
I run them both as well. -- "Re-elect Bush/Cheney, November 2004." - obodhisattva | |
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join:2000-02-26 Fruitport, MI | Ditto for me. Plus Spywareblaster for preventive measures. | |
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@cofs.net | Actually, Ad-Aware can now download updates as well.
I do have to agree, though. Spybot seems to catch more spyware, although I run both, just to be sure. | |
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join:2000-12-12 Wichita, KS
| Re: Spbot is fine for me. I think it was Maximum PC that said that Spybot removed a few more "spyware" apps than adaware. Notice a said a few and not "a heck of a lot more" like the previous poster. I believe this is due to spybot having more updates put out than adaware. That said I use both. | |
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join:2003-02-10 Hatboro, PA | AdAware is updateable as well. | |
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 |   NightLinks Premium join:2001-06-04 Bronx, NY | I use SPYBOT & ADWARE they both work good for me. | |
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join:2004-01-18 Honolulu, HI | Re: Spbot is fine for me. Adware has change since they first started. I know I was one of the first, Now they want me to pay more money under some knew speculating capitalist! Try some other spy removal. Boycott Adware. | |
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join:2000-12-13 Bay Area | Re: Spbot is fine for me. Why did Adaware only want you to pay and not the rest of us? Been using it free all this time! | |
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join:2000-10-13 Lancaster, CA | Ditto:) | |
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from: lilhurricane 
| More importantly than which one you like, please donate to the one that you like. It gives the authors incentives to keep the applications supported.
I like spybot and have donated. | |
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join:2002-03-23 Eagleville, PA
·Comcast
| Re: Spybot is fine for me. I concur! The only effective way to fight the bastards is with money (as unfortunate as that is). It's too bad that PayPal doesn't exactly have a clean reputation when it comes down to protecting your privacy and your credit card info. Fortunately we can mail a cash donation: »www.safer-networking.org/index.p···ernative
Oh yeah, Spybot - Search & Destroy rulez!
Actually, come to think of it, most German software rulez! (Ahead Nero, O&O Defrag, OpenOffice, WinRAR (that's Russian, but now is based in Germany, etc.) | |
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join:2004-01-22
| Re: Support is the real issue I appear to be like a lot people and I use Ad-aware, Spy-bot and Spyware Blaster, with Popup Cop and all 3 of my computers have ZERO pops or other nasty-ware.
But I agree with lilhurricane... What is more important is which product do you support financially! Because some of the best programs like Spybot and Spyware Blaster are worth their weight in gold.
I supported both products because they changed the way I surf internet (being that 90% of all internet ads are from your own hard drive). And Popup cop and Ad-aware keep new ones from coming.
And both Spybot and Spyware Blaster offer free updates to keep them current. I am not affiliated with either company but I know that it takes time and resources to keep them both bug free and current.
So supporting these companies helps so they can afford to keep beating those sneaky, never-sleeping, bad guys. | |
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·AT&T Yahoo
| Re: Spbot is fine for me. I agree about using both. I use both and I never have any problems. I also am using SpywareBlaster. In the past 2 years, the only spyware with which I've had to contend was the lop.com hijacker, but Ad-Aware killed it. I'm very careful now to update definitions at least weekly now on all three products. | |
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join:2002-01-15 Lewisberry, PA
| I second that. I use AdAware first, and then SpybotKiller. Spybotkiller frequently finds stuff that Adaware didn't.
It even found some Gator related stuff that Adaware didn't, which is strange because Adaware usually does a good job of rooting out Gator...
Just installed the SpywareBlaster. Thanks guys, for the ideas. | |
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join:2001-05-04 Santa Clara, CA | Where I can I download Spbot? | |
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| Re: Spbot is fine for me. said by jdir : Where I can I download Spbot?
Download it here: »www.safer-networking.org/ -- WinXP,Kaspersky AV,Tauscan 1.6,Outpost Pro,IE & Opera,Becky! 2.07 | |
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join:2000-12-13 Bay Area
| spybot alone is suck. I had experienced first hand with a number of systems at work. I ran spybot first and it does it it supposed to do. However, there are a fw that it failed to detect and remove so I ran adaware as well and it completely remove every spyware on the system. Bottom line, spybot is good but not good enough. Run both to be safe. | |
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join:2003-01-18 Rutherfordton, NC | Hey every1 I use AdAwarePro and Spybot in combo... it works great and usually find things each lack... they are a good team. -- /usr/jaysin/.JBellSouth FastAccess DSL1250k/218k | |
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join:2003-12-24 | Actually, I use Ad Aware Pro, Spybot, & Spy Sweeper. I run Ad Aware first, spybot second, & then Spysweeper. One program catches what the other program doesn't catch. | |
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join:2003-01-19 Medina, OH 1 edit | SpamBayes SpamBayes outlook plugin RULES
EDIT: Oh sorry its spyware eh I use LavaSoft's exelent program.. We all know that its the best  | |
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  Sid Premium join:2002-11-29 Santa Maria, CA | Spysweeper? I hear that its does a good job. Anyone here use it? | |
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 |  digital k Premium join:2003-12-25 | Re: Spysweeper? AdAware is good, but Spybot Search & Destroy is better, it has caught alot of things on my machine that AdAware never even spotted. I used Spysweeper in the past, it works well also, but it costs too much I think. | |
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1 edit | Spysweeper - quite impressed I just tried it out for the first time. It picked up items that spybot did not and even a trojan that was not detected by either my kaspersky AV or Tauscan trojan detector. It was the "xdiver" trojan. Mind you, I havent run tauscan for about a week so it might have picked it up if I had done so.) Spysweeper provides a lot of easy to read information on the spyware which is nice if you dont know what it is. Like you said, it is a little pricey.
*Update* I restored all the spyware that was removed and updated tauscan and then ran the tauscan scan. It didnt pick up the "xdiver".
-- WinXP,Kaspersky AV,Tauscan 1.6,Outpost Pro,IE & Opera,Becky! 2.07 | |
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join:2003-11-16 Saint Louis, MO
1 edit | ISP should help you keep stuff off your computer? Ok, wheres teh logic in this...
Does your ISP provide a firewall, a router, or anti-virus utilities?
Why should your ISP be in charge of you keeping stuff YOU download and install off YOUR computer?
ISPs provide the internet, that is it. If you dont know something, READ A BOOK. | |
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| Re: ISP should help you keep stuff off your computer? I don't think the ISP "should" have to do anything but provide good internet service. Yet, it would be nice if they did ad the features to their service as a customer service method. It would help the internet as a greater whole to reduce worms, viruses, hackers at the source level.
Just a thought... | |
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join:2003-01-10 Bridgeton, NJ clubs:
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| Re: ISP should help you keep stuff off your computer? would be nice if the isp sent you a letter explaining what spyware is and siome suggestions on how to remove it. Also i dont thing isp's should have to provide anti viris and firewall software but is they sent out letters explaining it and suggestionbs of programs to get it would reduce alout of problems and free up bandwith from being wasted by trojans | |
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join:2000-03-30 Colorado Springs, CO | Pest Patrol I use Pest Patrol. I think it works pretty good. | |
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join:2002-02-26 Hollis, NY
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I find that the PestPatrol site has the most up-to-date and comprehensive descriptions and removal instructions I have found... Even without buying their detection and removal package, I have been able to clean and protect my systems from most all of the little demons.
Even if you don't buy their stuff, a visit to their site will open your eyes to the issue. They get a "thumbs up" from me. --- CompSysNYC -- DigitalMIX | |
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join:2003-08-06 Albany, NY
| Re: Pest Patrol PestPatrol is great,it gets some things that both ad-aware and spy-bot miss..The first time I did the scan after using spy-bot it found three critters ,one was a empty folder and the other two were legit . It showed you in the reg.where they were,got sick of doing that all the time,plus I use Firebird so I had to keep switching browsers to get the on-line scan..Bought the program and love it..But have to say if you have ad-aware,spy-bot and spywareBlaster,your golden..Spyware Guard is good to if you use IE,but no one does anymore,right?hehe | |
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join:2001-05-14 Plano, TX
1 edit | But....... Slightly off topic but those items that are found by either are deleted by myself yet just keep reappearing. How do you keep this from happening with either of the two programs (never did figure that out)? I went and downloaded SpywareBlaster and that seems to have taken care of it for me but I was just curious if I had been missing something by using either of the two problems alone without the SpywareBlaster. | |
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join:2001-03-15 Localhost ;)
| Re: But....... you need to delete the entries from the Registry. Its going to be a headache if you want to remove all those entries from the Registry manually because there are so many of them. Spywareblaster should take care of everthing and I doubt it will miss something. Just keep updating the software for the latest database. -- .:: Sunny ::. | |
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join:2001-02-10 Sanford, FL
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| Spybot Is Good, But... Pest Patrol is far better than either Spybot or AdAware. Over a year ago, AdAware was the stick the others were measured by and then Spybot stole the throne when AdAware supposedly allowed some companies to buy out of their removal list. However, when I tried Pest Patrol it found 23 additional items (not just cookies) that Spybot missed (and even with the latest updates, still misses).
Also, Spybot is updated on a "whenever" basis so it isn't as accurate as Pest Patrol which is updated almost daily.
All that said, Spybot is free so you really can't complain. I just bought Pest Patrol after using the eval and nearly paid $40 for it on their site. ZoneLabs (makers of ZoneAlarm) are selling it as a special with the basic ZoneAlarm for $19.95!!! | |
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| Re: Spybot Is Good, But... PestPatrol Used along with anti-virus software Overview
How does PestPatrol differ from anti-virus products? Anti-virus products focus on viruses; PestPatrol focuses on every other sort of computer pest, including ANSI bombs, answering machine hacks, carding, denial of service attack tools, disassemblers, virus droppers, hacking guides, hostile Java, icq, key loggers, mail bombers, password crackers, phreaking, surreptitious remote control, remote monitoring, network scanning, sniffers, spoofers, spyware, surveillance, Trojans, Trojan creation tools, virus creation tools, virus writing tools, and word lists used by password crackers. As a result, PestPatrol detects more such pests, and is much faster than anti-virus products. | |
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| said by Kambriel : Pest Patrol is far better than either Spybot or AdAware. Over a year ago, AdAware was the stick the others were measured by and then Spybot stole the throne when AdAware supposedly allowed some companies to buy out of their removal list. However, when I tried Pest Patrol it found 23 additional items (not just cookies) that Spybot missed (and even with the latest updates, still misses).
Also, Spybot is updated on a "whenever" basis so it isn't as accurate as Pest Patrol which is updated almost daily.
All that said, Spybot is free so you really can't complain. I just bought Pest Patrol after using the eval and nearly paid $40 for it on their site. ZoneLabs (makers of ZoneAlarm) are selling it as a special with the basic ZoneAlarm for $19.95!!!
Yeah but how many of those items were false positives? Pest patrol has this annoyingly high level of false positives so you really dont know whats listed you actually got -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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join:2001-02-10 Sanford, FL
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| Re: Spybot Is Good, But... It's been dead on so far. I have a habit of collecting hacks and malware from systems I clean off so that I can better understand them (I'm an IT Manager who usually ends up doing network admin work). I bury them in a zip file and dissect them as needed. Pest Patrol even picked up a readme.txt from a hacktool that was three levels deep in that zip (as well as 48 other nasties)!
Pest Patrol also gives you better control over what is and isn't scanned. On that option page there is a disclaimer about false positives that can be generated by scanning "all files". As long as you know your backside from your elbow, it shouldn't be hard to discern what is suspect and what is legit.
Even at that, when you make a change to your machine (for good or ill), take responsibility for your action(s) and deal. If you don't know enough, take a class or contact someone who knows how to handle it. There is NO magic "spyware detector" program out there. I didn't post in here to defend what I use... I just offered an opinion based on my experience. Feel free to use whatever you want. | |
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join:2002-08-25 Kendall,FL | Spyware Blaster and ad-aware pro for me this is the best mix...spyware blaster to stop it from being installed and ad aware to get the ones that got by (hardly ever) | |
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| Opps Unfortunately I have to report that out of my use of spybot and adware that spybot breakes adsoff. Although they did give me a good way how to fix it! However it still will remove the adsoff LSP anytime I run it.
Adaware seems to catch more cookies (although neither, nor cookie wall, seems to get 100%)than spybot, however spybot finds more spyware programs. | |
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  crane Premium join:2000-12-31 Sebastian, FL | PestPatrol, AVG pro,ZoneAlarm pro Thats the 3 that got my money for PC protection.....with an occasional HijackThis scan I feel somewhat safe from malware. Those bugs skittering across the PestPatrol webpage freak me out though.:D -- dirt rules | |
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join:2003-12-24 | Re: PestPatrol, AVG pro,ZoneAlarm pro AVG Pro works Great!! I think catches somethings that Norton doesn't catch!! | |
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  mrchris We don't miss you Bush Premium join:2002-10-01 North Babylon, NY 1 edit | All is good Adaware, Spybot S&D and SpywareBlaster keep my machine pest free. | |
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| Spybot & Ad Aware Spybot and Ad Aware work for me and they are especially easy to use. I even caught the good ol' trojan ByteVerify java class trojan with it. I ended up only needing to use that to get rid of the trojan. I also like the easy to use interface, which doesn't have a lot of bells and whistles which is fine for me. It does a decent enough job with a firewalled connection. -- What's black & white and cool all over? Optimized  | |
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join:2002-01-15 Las Vegas, NV
| ISP's providing spyware protection? I know that most BBR regulars would shudder at the thought of an ISP providing spyware protection for their customers, echoing fears of Big Brother.
However, as a service technician for an ISP, I can tell you that the vast majority of internet users know absolutely nothing about their computers or the potential pitfalls of the internet, save for a couple of buzzwords they picked up from the news.
Spyware developers are well aware of this ignorance and use it to their full advantage. Their products will "Enhance your browsing experience!" and "Optimize your internet connection!" by inundating the consumer with "Free offers from select business partners!" And of course, since it's obviously Better Than Sex! and it's FREE!, the customer clicks on the OK button. Then, a month later, they can't figure out why their computer is so slow and every click is accompanied by a half dozen pop-up ads.
Many of these customers blame the problems on the ISP..."It used to be so fast, but now it's sooooo sloooooow." So the ISP has to pay a technician to go out and verify that it's not an ISP-related problem, which increases their operating expenses. And obviously, an increase in expenses becomes an increase in price, which tends to piss off the customers.
So I don't really blame ISP's when they talk about offering spyware solutions; sure, customer education would be a better long-term solution, but the fact is, most people aren't interested in learning anything about their computer...they just want to press a button and have it work, no questions asked. So what you end up with is a bunch of people who more or less WANT the ISP to assume the role of Big Brother, because education is just so damned inconvenient. | |
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join:2002-06-10 Madison, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
| Knowledge is power, use it i use ad-aware and spybot myself as a precautionary measure, but the best way i have found to avoid spyware is to know what is installed on my computer at all times and let the less computer-literate in my family use an older iMac running OS 9 for their primary usage(most spyware/malware is coded for windows so its pretty safe there). Before i had the ability to share internet with the iMac i had to constantly scan my WinXP computer for adware/malware. Now i scan maybe once a month since my primary browser is Mozilla Firebird (im not comfortable with using the swiss cheese security of IE) and i watch where i go online and monitor every install. The only place i go with IE is winblows update, so driveby activex malware isnt an issue. I have seen computers much faster than mine slow to a crawl (mine is only a 750Mhz AMD Duron, and runs much faster than a spyware-laden 1.3Ghz P4 that my friend's mother owns) due to the lack of knowledge of everyone in the family. It is futile to help people like this, as they dont want to learn and when you tell them why their computer is so slow they want to deny the fact that its their neglect that has done it, and not the fault of the computer manufacturer and/or ISP. Most of the people i deal with on a daily basis have finally realized the value of updated antivirus and a decent firewall (im currently using AVG for antivirus and Sygate as a firewall since Norton 2k3 broke on me) but still dont know the value of anti-spyware. My personal experience with both ad-aware and spybot have turned up a few limitations, such as removing LSP spyware/malware. Neither of these programs will remove all of it without destroying winsock. I had to spend a few hours on google to find a way to manually remove it (involves changing many values in the registry most of the time) so it is possible for those not scared of the registry. In the single case i ran into spyware with LSP imbedded into winsock, i found that ad-aware was more knowledgable about where everything was (spybot only detected a dll that couldnt be removed without first removing registry entries in winsock that depended on it, but ad-aware found the dll file as well as the registry entries tied to it). Nowadays i feel spybot is falling even more behind, as ad-aware has had at least 3 updates in the time that it has had 1. I dont rely solely on these programs, as i feel my own KNOWLEDGE is more powerful than any program. Just like in the old Mortal Kombat games, "There is no knowledge that is not power". Its too bad not too many people take that as seriously as i do, although it is just a quote from a game. Anyways, the combination of updated antivirus and a properly configured firewall that has application security should be enough to stop most malware before it has the chance to access the internet, but having a separate adware/spyware scanner should always be there to remove what falls through the cracks (having anti-adware on all the time just adds to the resource load of having a firewall and antivirus auto-detect on, which isnt nice on a slower computer such as mine). Im sorry to those who actually took the time to read this, as its rather long-winded, but i had quite a bit to say as you can see.  | |
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join:2004-01-20 Wayne, NE | Re: Knowledge is power, use it LawL! PC cRaZe sNaKe is going to get you! Infect you with his spyware venom, hahaha, and he loves BOOBZ! | |
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@dynegy.com
| Re: Knowledge is power, use it Ad-aware and Spybot are good, I also purchased another spybot remover recommended by efnet.
But as others have suggested, going off the mainstream OS is better.
Surfing using Mozilla or Firebird from my Solaris box works like a champ and has popup blocking to boot.
If you really want to surf sites with Quicktime/Flash/etc surf from a Linux box instead. | |
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