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Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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of the music player world. It wouldn't infest my computer at all with this turd except I have to have it to play it's extensions.
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Mactron
el Camino Real
Premium
join:2001-12-16
CM94sv | Re: phooey It's still meets my definition of a virus, in that it takes over everything on the machine. Real Player is right up there with AOL. Neither is allowed on any machine in this household.;) | |
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Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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| Re: phooey most of the evil Spyware things realplayer does can be blocked by anyone of the firewalls out there. But it still is a software dung bomb.
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mpelle4456
Say What?
join:2001-07-21
Tacoma, WA
 ·Advanced Stream
| I wouldn't install any Real product on my machines, not even if it was the only mp3 player on earth.
They have to be the king of bloatware. They're even worse than AOL. It is indeed the music equivalent of Gator.
I refuse to listen (or watch) anything that requires Real.
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@comcast.n | I saw a post on www.warp2search.net the other day for a realplayer alternative (emulator) download; aswell as a quicktime one. Haven't tried it yet but we shall see. | |
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join:2001-04-22
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join:2003-02-18
Brunswick, MD | there was(and may still be) a plugin for winamp so it plays real files..have to take a looka round..:)
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cork1958
Cork
join:2000-02-26
Fruitport, MI | Wouldn't allow Real Player OR it's extensions on my system. | |
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dadkins
Go For It
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| New? Real Player? Unless they remove all of the BS, who wants it? I tried it(the free player) and had to uninstall it then reinstall it and uncheck almost everything(the report usage, message center, blah blah blah). The only reason I even have it is because it is proprietary to watch videos on some websites. | |
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Xiotek
Premium
join:2002-11-09
USA | No Thanks ! Theres too much junkware in Real Player. I do fine without it.
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Jeremy341
Bye
Premium
join:2000-01-06
localhost | Re: RealPlayer Sucks! I seem to stumble upon a LOT of stuff that Real Alternative can't play. It's extremely annoying, and I may end up putting Real Player back on my computer. | |
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decadent
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Piscataway, NJ
| Open source versions of Real Media Player and Server are available at »https://helix-client.helixcommunity.org
And RealPlayer 10 shares code with Helix DNA Client according to the web-site. So, you can build or download only parts you need. Good luck finding open-source version for MS Media Player. | |
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DoLeMiTe
Yes we can't
Premium
join:2001-01-11
New Kensington, PA
| said by elias  :
I wonder if the format will be .rm files, LoL ... that would be extremely crappy. Noone will pay for RealPlayer files for songs.
-- Elias
They will be AAC files like iTunes.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by elias :
I wonder if the format will be .rm files, LoL ... that would be extremely crappy. Noone will pay for RealPlayer files for songs.
I wouldnt take it for FREE and free is as cheap as it gets. still with real player plus v5 here. no big loss. i dont see anything about addressing REAL's quality issues.
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Click, Click
join:2002-07-02
London, ON
| I use RealOne as my Media Player Ok, Ok, I'll admit it. I use RealOne as my Main player. Why? because I have an MP3 player that RealOne is compatible with.
I have been using RealPlayer since it was version 5 (since it was about the only media player for a while), and I'll still continue to use it (I purchased the Plus version, but not the subscription.) It has everything I need to rip songs, convert them (to a variety of formats.. anywhere from 48kbps to 320kbps) and put them on my MP3 player.
I may be of a dying breed to still uses RealPlayer, but I'll probably be using it for a long time. | |
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News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
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January 7th, @11:29AM
| Re: I use RealOne as my Media Player I used it primarily because several websites I frequented only stream in that format.
I honestly wouldn't mind it quite so much if they trimmed a lot of the bloatware off of it. I don't want the message-center, Start-Center, Scheduler, or anything else......I don't want to login on first use either. I don't want to be sold a SuperPass, or directed to paid video news..... | |
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hbreg
Premium
join:2000-11-09
Feasterville Trevose, PA
| said by Gramzster :
Ok, Ok, I'll admit it. I use RealOne as my Main player.
I have been using RealPlayer since it was version 5 (since it was about the only media player for a while), and I'll still continue to use it (I purchased the Plus version, but not the subscription.)
I may be of a dying breed to still uses RealPlayer, but I'll probably be using it for a long time.
But why pay for something when there are many free versions that do the same things and don't try to take over your computer more than the OS does? And are a lot better (IMO).
I know you are entitled to use what player and/or software you want but Real anything is nothing more than bloated garbage. If a web site only streams or uses the .rm format i keep right on going.
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join:2000-10-24
Harrisburg, PA | i will stick with iTunes | |
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join:2000-10-13
Lancaster, CA | I use Real Player 8:) | |
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join:2003-09-25
Greenville, SC | I use RealOne as my Media Player I use RealOne V2 media player for all Real Media Formats. | |
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What? You Say It's Fixed. Hah
join:2001-11-29
Cyberspace
 ·Embarq
| Re: I use RealOne as my Media Player said by vice8686 :
I use Real Player 8:)
It's the one I install when I need RealPlayer. But, I'm willing to look at the products listed before. | |
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ArchAngel21x
MacFan Pro
Premium
join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE | Real Alternative So when is the new Real Alternative codec going to be released? | |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast
| Re: Real Alternative Just download the new Real Player and grab the real codecs then uninstall Real Player
All Real Alternative is a DirectShow interface to the Real Player codecs (with the Real Player codecs included).
Personally I install Real Player tell it to never run (remove all its start up items) and then use Media Player Classic. | |
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join:2002-06-26
Salem, VA
| Re: Real Alternative If some people like myself who have the "pirated" Real Player Plus 8.. DO NOT DOWNLOAD Real Alt. After I installed the Alt player.. Real Plus doesn't work at all! This is the only Real Player I will have on my PC's -- and it sound really great.. That is if you have real player plus! Thought I'd check out the Alt player wish I hadn't.
"If It Ain't Broke" Don't fix it" lol | |
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@220.224.x.x | but how to use Real Player real codecs to play real media files in media player.
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Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
Premium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
 ·Vonage
| Why would I knowingly allow spyware on my machine? quote:
This letter advises RealNetworks Inc. of various actions and demands by Junkbusters following the revelation of previously secret data collection and reporting functions in RealJukeBox software. Based on the independent analysis of Richard M. Smith (attached) we consider these functions to be unacceptable violations of consumer privacy which RealNetworks must cease and remediate. We also believe that RealNetworks may have breached both civil and criminal laws, so we are alerting various agencies for possible enforcement actions, to discourage further incidents of this kind.
»www.junkbusters.com/real.html
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Lurch77
Premium
join:2001-11-22
+44.88-87.89 | Junk I don't use real, and never will in the future. Too much junk and bloat. If a websites have media that only works with real, I simply don't visit that site. I would rather miss a few (maybe) good media files then install this junk. | |
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pc319
Premium
join:2002-04-24
The Q | 10 cents a song....NOT! .....offering users 10 cent downloads for a limited time
It's a 10 cent download for ONLY your first song, 99 cents after. Big deal! | |
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join:2003-04-06
Stevenson Ranch, CA
| STupid realplayer I never liked realplayer... I only installed them because i need to play some video file that only can play by realplayer. I actually hated realplayer. It's full of ad and junks.... People, don't even bother to use this program.
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linicx
Caveat Emptor
Premium
join:2002-12-03
United State | Real Junk? The only good thing I can say about Real is that it behaves very nicely on my Mac which is something it never did on any of my PCs.
iTunes ignores it.
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Buck Fush
join:2002-06-10
Charlotte, NC
clubs:  | Oh boy! New spyware wrapped in a media player...always was a crappy piece of software even without the spyware. Now it's RealCrap v10! RealPlayer is right there next to AOL on my list of things I'll never (ever) use even if it was free.
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IronChefMoto
Premium
join:2001-02-08
Alpharetta, GA
| RealPlayer still prominent -- sometimes a must Before Real started pimping everything possible -- from spyware to bloatware -- in their player, it was THE streaming media player. And, because it of licensing costs associated with Windows Media server and services, it remains a viable source of cheap streaming video/audio for many corporations. Hell -- ABC, CNN, and MLB like it for their streaming audio/video products. It must be worth something.
I used RealPlayer in a production environment at a major US university starting about 6 years ago, before the product became such a hassle to install and live with on one's computer. In the past 2 years since the RealONE Player emerged, the university where I worked received INNUMERABLE complaints from alumni and other website visitors who had to deal with the install of RealONE Player to watch our streaming video webcasts and archives.
If anyone has installed this new version and can give a 'yea' or 'nay' on the intrusive installation procedure (i.e. Did they friggin' reduce the hassles involved?), please post here!
Thanks,
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reserved for later use
Premium
join:2002-12-19
·BT Broadband
| Re: RealPlayer still prominent -- sometimes a must said by IronChefMoto :
If anyone has installed this new version and can give a 'yea' or 'nay' on the intrusive installation procedure (i.e. Did they friggin' reduce the hassles involved?), please post here!
Thanks,
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quote:
The Software consists of interactive Internet applications that perform a variety of communications over the Internet as part of their normal operation. A number of communications features are automatic and are enabled by default. By installing and/or using the Software, you consent to the Software's communications features. Once you log into the Software, user information including your user id will be sent in communications with RN's servers. This information is used to access your regular account, premium content, non-premium content, services, features, and other personalized services. RN may match the user id to personally identifiable information in order to provide you with products, services, and software that you're entitled to and to provide you with relevant information. You are responsible for any telecommunications or other connectivity charges incurred through use of the Software.
Just had a look at the new version, the installation routine is exactly the same as it was for the last version of the player, it is still a resource hog, it still wants to make itself the default application for everything, and you still have the same crud running in the background.
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join:2003-10-03
Almont, MI
·Charter Pipeline
| Windows 2000/RP 10 Beta/Norton AV shutdown hang? After installing the Real Player 10 Beta onto a fully updated and working Windows 2000 system, upon shutdown or restart I get the error message that Norton's Anti-Virus 2002 is not responding.
Installing RP 10 was the only change made to the machine.
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@tpnet.p
| How to use realplayer, without all the crap It's a bit hard to get started with Real player, but I have written my own little tutorial on how to use it.
I use it for ripping my cd's to mp3, dvd playback (Don't have to pay for software to see dvds) etc...
Just follow the instructions on the URL below and there isn't anymore spyware/adware stuff 
»quickfox.org/modules.php?op=modl···ent&id=1 | |
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Premium
join:2002-11-29
Santa Maria, CA
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January 9th, @09:40AM
| I dont have a real problem with it I downloaded it and am currently trying it out. Yes, it does bug me when it wants to make itself the default player. But you can disable most of that. One thing I noticed is that the streaming video plays much better than before. Very little hang ups because of buffering. Full screen mode is pretty clear. I imagine if you dont have a lot of resources available on your pc, it could cause some problems. This doesnt effect me any. I do like the music store. It offers some nice features. I like the music guide. The cd burning functions is an easy and well layed out design with easy options to transfer to a portable device. I guess to each their own. -- WinXP,Kaspersky AV,Tauscan 1.6,Outpost Pro,IE & Opera,TheBat 2.02.3 CE | |
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join:2001-02-21
Chatsworth, CA
| A Minority View....I love the RealPlayer... I have used all versions of the Player including now the Real-10 Version..and love it. It is easy to configure to play what you want it to play..I don't know why so many here seem to think it takes over the machine. I guess if you let it, it will, but that does not have to be the case.....And if you are any kind of sports junkie or news junkie the RP is invaluable...the NBA, MLB, NFL...CNN, ABC, BBC etc...I pay the 10 bucks a month subscription for added features and think it is worth every cent...IMO if you're not using the RP you're missing out on a lot of the best audio and video the net has to offer.... | |
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@telus.net
| the Real "PAIN IN THE @$$!" Message Center Alrighty then - this is what I found on:
»thegoldenear.org/tweak/to-do.txt
Realsched
RealSched.exe
Evntsvc / TkBellExe / Realsched
Evntsvc.exe or Realsched.exe
Real Networks Scheduler which gets installed with RealOne Player. Under Win9x/ME this task shows as TKBELLEXE, and as EVNTSVC under Windows 2000/XP or REALSCHED depending on which version of RealOne Player you have installed. From our experience, everything that applies to EVNTSVC below, also applies to REALSCHED. RNDAL elsewhere in these Task List pages is a good starting point to read about RealOne Player. Next, a 15-Jun-2002 extract from the RealOne Player License Agreement that is specific to EVNTSVC (the said License Agreement was updated on 25-Nov-2002 by Real Networks and EVNTSVC was replaced by REALSCHED in that version of the License Agreement) : An application Scheduler, known as "evntsvc.exe," is installed along with RealOne Player. Once installed, it runs independently of RealOne Player. The Scheduler does not collect personal information or communicate with RealNetworks’ servers. It is used to remind AutoUpdate and Message Center to perform their tasks at pre-scheduled intervals. The Scheduler is also used to automatically launch RealNetworks’ Media Type Helper. The Media Type Helper ensures the system is configured for correct operation of the RealOne Player with Multi-Purpose Internet Mail Extensions ("MIME") types, file extensions, Internet protocols and other media types. If a media type has been assigned a different action by a different application, Media Type Helper may override the association and substitute its own association.
Recommendation :
If reading about RNDAL did not put you off, then read on. RealPlayer Classic used to be one of the most needed pieces of software on a PC. Its successor, RealOne Player, is vying for the title of the most hated piece of software. For a start, on many PCs EVNTSVC slows down boot-ups unacceptably, using up to 90% of CPU time at times. There have also been reports of EVNTSVC dropping advertising shortcuts onto the desktop during idle times. Next, if you try to disable EVNTSVC via Startup Manager or MSCONFIG, RealOne Player checks to see if it has been deleted from the Registry and re-instates it as a startup item ! To be fair, there is a facility within RealOne Player to "only perform automatic services while RealOne Player is in use". As stated in our write-up for RNDAL, our recommendation is to de-install RealOne Player and either use the classic RealPlayer, or something else such as WinAmp. If you absolutely want to keep RealOne Player, we suggest you rename EVNTSVC.EXE to EVNTSVC.EXE.OLD (or REALSCHED.EXE to REALSCHED.OLD) as that is the only way to make absolutely certain that it never runs, and RealOne Player works fine without it.
- there's some new info on Real Player TSRs that should be incorporated
- what inspires Real Player's messenger (which appears as realevent.exe)?
Realevent
RealEvent.exe
Another RealOne Player background task. See RNDAL and EVNTSVC elsewhere in these pages for more details about RealOne Player. Although we are not certain about it, REALEVENT seems to be involved in pulling from Real Networks servers something Real Networks want you to see (whether it is Real Networks product information, advertising, etc..., we are not sure).
Recommendation :
If you decide not to uninstall RealOne Player, rename REALEVENT.EXE to REALEVENT.OLD – RealOne Player works fine without it, and you will have one less Real Networks background task accessing the Internet without you knowing what it does exactly.
RealPlay / Real Player
RealPlay.exe
This is the System Tray icon for Real Player. A majority of users find this icon extremely frustrating as it slows down the boot-up time of your PC, and Real Player can be accessed through Start \ Programs anyway – in fact, in most cases Real Player comes up on its own when you click on a web link.
Recommendation :
Visit »thegoldenear.org/tweak/to-do.txt "Miscellaneous" document library and download the instructions on how to disable it. | |
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@rr.com
|  Re: the Real "PAIN IN THE @$$!" Message Center
There are freewares available which plays Real Media (.ram, .rm. etc) like
---- Jet-Audio, which i believe is the Best Audio Software available.
---- WinAmp is next best. And lots more @freewarez.com
Use real alternative, like someone suggested. If not copy the codecs, from the real folder to the Windows folder, uninstall RealPlayer and you are done.
Last thought, I think realplayer exists only for the computer newcommers and for those people who use it for checking email and wordprocessing and nothing else. | |
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| You can use the TWEAK program that you've quoted the 'to do' list from to automate disabling some of Real Player's unwanted 'features' (run tweak.bat and choose 'B' then 'RP')
The things you quoted aren't in the program yet, bcos they're in its 'to do' list but they will be eventually hopefully. The text you quoted is from another web site (I forget which but it has a lot of useful info on disabling unwanted memory-resident programs) and pasted into TWEAK's todo list without quotes, without thinking it might itself be quoted. So the 'recommendation' lines and "Visit our "Miscellaneous" document library and download the instructions on how to disable it." don't relate to thegoldenear.org and TWEAK but to the other site we were using for research on Real Player. this Real Player text has now been put in quotes on thegoldenear.org to save further confusion
TWEAK is available from:
»thegoldenear.org/tweak/
and the actual Real Player feature disabling code currently in it is this (which uses reg.exe to make its registry changes, version 3.0 of which is available in Windows XP and version 2.0 of which is available in the Windows 2000 Resource Kit, but not in Windows 2000 itself):
Disable %USERNAME%'s Real Player 8 (ver. 6.0)
Automatic Services (but not 'Automatically download and install important updates'. Disables realsched.exe from running in background):
rem having the following options on inspires Real Player to insert:
rem HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\TkBellExe
rem which is typically: "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
echo Automatic Services - Periodically check for software updates - off
reg add "HKCU\Software\RealNetworks\Update\6.0\Preferences\ATH\SoftwareUpdates" /v "" /t REG_SZ /d "0" /f
echo Automatic Services - Periodically check for new messages - off
reg add "HKCU\Software\RealNetworks\Update\6.0\Preferences\ATH\NewMessages" /v "" /t REG_SZ /d "0" /f
echo Automatic Services - check for newly downloaded media to add to My Library - off
reg add "HKCU\Software\RealNetworks\Update\6.0\Preferences\ATH\MusicFolders" /v "" /t REG_SZ /d "0" /f
echo Automatic Services - maintain my choices set in Media Types preferences - off
reg add "HKCU\Software\RealNetworks\Update\6.0\Preferences\ATH\AthScans" /v "" /t REG_SZ /d "0" /f
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@pacbell.n
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Open the realplayer
Choose Tools -> Preferences
Category -> Automatic Services -> Message Center
Press "Configure Message Center..."
Remove selection of "Checking" -> Check for new messages
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