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clubs: | They need to impose the death penalty... for all spammers. This country is too lenient on all criminals, drunk drivers, murderers, etc. | |
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reub2000
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Evanston, IL | Re: They need to impose the death penalty... To give a spamer a lethal injection would be too quick. I sugest something where they're slowly killed over a couple of weeks. | |
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callihn4
join:2002-01-10
Space
| Re: They need to impose the death penalty... said by reub2000  :
To give a spamer a lethal injection would be too quick. I sugest something where they're slowly killed over a couple of weeks.
LOL!! Yea, they can check my email for a few weeks, i am sure that will make them commit suicide. 8)
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Jason Levine
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Albany, NY | Re: They need to impose the death penalty... Hmmm.... How about turning them into human spam filters? With some sort of shock for every spam they let through? Punishment AND irony all rolled into one!  | |
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TheHelpful1
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| Re: They need to impose the death penalty... No, put them in the chair and tell them the pardoning letter from the govenor is coming via email. Now they have 30 seconds to weed through 499 spam emails to find the one letter that pardons them.
The funny part is when the govenor sends the pardon with the subject "LIVE LONGER, HEALTHIER!" | |
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5th Sniper
join:2001-01-20
Prince George, BC
·TELUS
| no i don't think we need to go that extreme, at least the spammers are using email can you imaging the mail person carrying that much spam letters to each person....damn they would need a few HULKS to carry the mail. LOL anyway off topic
Chinese torture method of little incisions...one paper cut per spam recieved per day....that will change his mind about sending more out. | |
| | ParanoiaInc
join:2002-08-28
Tucker, GA | Why, just get a collection plate going and I am sure someone would be willing to 'can' his aS$! | |
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Tactics
Green Lantern
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Pinehurst, NC
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December 30th, @10:58AM
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They need to impose the death penalty...
Wow took the words right out of my mouth. I agree %100 This guy first needs all his fingers broken and then all his teeth knocked out for good measure.  | |
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starstuff
Fly By Wire
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Mcallen, TX
| said by borborpa :
for all spammers. This country is too lenient on all criminals, drunk drivers, murderers, etc.
Maybe a taliban like "government" should be imposed? | |
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GNXPower
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Huntington Beach, CA | Re: They need to impose the death penalty... And lax law enforcement has exactly what to do with a murderous regime? | |
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Kompressor
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Huntington Beach, CA | I agree with you 101%! | |
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technick
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| Idi0t This dude never learns.. though I think it's funny he's taking a break.. Must have been a little to intense huh..
People like this just need to get canned...
nuff said
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| jeffbrantley
join:2000-03-24
Ballwin, MO
| Spam at your front door Can we extend the definition of spam to people who ring your doorbell twice and knock for 2 minutes at 6:30am on sunday morning trying to sell you firewood?
I got two of those this last sunday. I generally just tell them we don't need it, but that early on a sunday must be worthy of more than just a negative answer. | |
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Rejected One
I Suffer From Id10t Errors
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Darby, PA
clubs: | Re: Spam at your front door i just open the door with my 12ga aimed at his head and ask can they read the no soliciting sign lol | |
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murdok6100
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join:2002-06-20
| Re: Spam at your front door said by Rejected One :
i just open the door with my 12ga aimed at his head and ask can they read the no soliciting sign lol
LOL, everyone does that in Darby, even to the neighbors.... 
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Rejected One
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clubs: | Re: Spam at your front door lol aint that the truth lol | |
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Varangian
join:2002-12-08
Collinsville, IL | I'd say that's a little past spam..
If anyone approaches my quarters at that hour Ill get the pleasure of watching the dogs chew them up before the police arrive. | |
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Tomek
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Brooklyn, NY | Just place a sign at Ur frontyard: "Tresspassers will be shot without warning". And throw couple of shells on Ur grass.
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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| Arrogant piece of slime This guy really disgusts me.
Not only does he brag about is $740,000 home or the fact that he spams heavily, but he also brags about the fact he will continue to spam. He is, by letter of the law, untouchable. Sure, the Can Spam act sets rules up, but it won't stop the spam. I can't believe that Bush supported that bill. I guess special interest groups had his ears, maybe even Mr. Ralsky himself.
Let your elected officials know about this and how much you hate spam. Make your vote count. Until a solution comes up, get an email address and use it for spam. That is what I do to stop the flow of spam and it works great.
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Jason Levine
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| Re: Arrogant piece of slime Ah, but the one good thing the article says is that he will have to identify, in each spam message, where it is coming from (a physical address). This will make it easier to filter. So spammers that follow the law will be easily filtered and ones that don't will stand a better chance of passing through the filters. I predict that most spammers will ignore the law and risk federal prosecution or the major spamming operations will move offshore, out of the feds reach.
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TheHelpful1
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| Re: Arrogant piece of slime Spammers that follow the rules arent the main problem. Spammers that cloack and dagger all the way are.
Question is (not that anyone would or SHOULD) what if you WANTED to buy one of the spam products? They hid themself so much you cant find them. That would make for a nice trap though
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| | | | MtnCoyote
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join:2002-03-21
Westminster, CO
| said by Nightfall :
...but I am not getting rid of my dedicated spam address just yet.
BTW, that hotmail account gets close to 100 mail messages a day and not one of them are legit.
Can you explain how you use this so-called "dedicated spam address" to filter out the spam? How does this keep spam away from your TRUE email address? (If this has already been explained somewhere, I'd be glad to read it if you can provide the URL )
Thanks. | |
| | wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| said by Nightfall :
I can't believe that Bush supported that bill. I guess special interest groups had his ears, maybe even Mr. Ralsky himself.
Let your elected officials know about this and how much you hate spam. Make your vote count.
It was your elected officials, not Mr. Bush, who created and got the law passed. 99% of them, in fact. Even if Bush vetoed the law, it would have been passed when it got back to the house and senate anyway. I hate hearing the Bush bashing when in fact he really had little to do with it. But as a president, you do not vote against something that has the approval of 99% of the House and Senate. That would just be politically dumb.
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join:2003-12-18
Lebanon, TN
| said by wentlanc :
But as a president, you do not vote against something that has the approval of 99% of the House and Senate. That would just be politically dumb.
puritan
Yeah, because then the news media and the democrats will be crying, "President Bush supports SPAM because he voted against the can SPAM act!"
You've got to love the name of it though - CAN SPAM... A can has always been the most efficient way to deliver Spam to the world. | |
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Glenn
I'D Rather Be Skiing
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Wallingford, CT
| So.... quote:
But he has not sent a single message over the Internet in the last few weeks.
Does this explain why my spam has been down significantly?
Someone needs to find that clown's e-mail address and sign him up for every possible e-mail list on the internet.
I really don't understand that guy's logic. How is hijacking someones computer to send garbage "legit"? | |
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redxii
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| Re: So.... said by Glenn :
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But he has not sent a single message over the Internet in the last few weeks.
Does this explain why my spam has been down significantly?
By golly, you have a point. I noticed much less spam than usual.
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| | JPCass
join:2001-01-23
Denver, CO
| said by Glenn :
I really don't understand that guy's logic. How is hijacking someones computer to send garbage "legit"?
I was amazed at his rationalizations. It's as if the door-to-door solicitor said "no one answered, so I checked the house until I found an unlocked window, and went in" - the cops would call that breaking and entry, no excuses accepted. Hijacking open relays, in particular, is ethically if not legally burglary and theft, but he whines that he's "forced to". It's the logic of criminals.
He doesn't get it that, if you can't do business legally and ethically, you just STOP and find something else. | |
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TheHelpful1
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| Re: So.... said by JPCass :
He doesn't get it that, if you can't do business legally and ethically, you just STOP and find something else.
Well that would require them to have some skill other than "send all", and that there is the extent of a spammer's skill.
Any spam defenders reading my post, it's not really smart to flame my post. There's a lot more spam haters in here than you'd care to deal with.
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Jason Levine
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| Spammer Claims that Spam Creates Jobs.... said by a slimy spammer:
"E-mail marketing is a good thing," Mr. Battles said. "I create jobs. But the media has made e-mail out to be some sort of terrorist plot."
(Sarcasm mode: ON) You know, burglars create jobs too. They mess up homes which requires the homeowners to buy more merchandise which creates jobs. Not to mention the insurance agents and police that might be out of work if there weren't any burglars. Let's all cheer those burglars on! (Sarcasm mode: OFF)
Honestly, e-mail marketing IS a good thing, but only when opt-in procedures are followed. (True opt-in, with clearly marked means of unsubscribing.) Simply sending e-mails to everyone with an inbox in order to get the few who may be interested in your product is not a good way to market products or services.
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| iwantbw
join:2003-12-30
Cotati, CA
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December 30th, @11:07AM
| spammers do suck, but this law sucks, too The thing I worry about with this law is that it could easily be used against people who most savvy net users would not consider spammers. And yet I don't think it will do alot about most spam, except help move more of it offshore. If you are a business and don't follow the rules its seems like you could break the law by not having all of your contact info in your emails, etc.
Disclaimer so I don't get flamed:
I don't condone spamming or doing any other "bad things" on the net.
The problem is that the very vague and flexible-for-law-enforcement definition of "bad things" has become too broad - Why? In the beginning of most laws/systems, it is an attempt to provide a way to nail people that they can easy get to, like terrorists - so they keep casting a wider and wider net, because criminals are slippery characters. But there are too many dolphins and whatever being caught in these nets:
•The Patriot Act et al - crystal meth maker charged for creating "chemical weapons" »www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n191···bull;the DMCA - researchers unwilling to publish research, see »www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/unintended_c···nces.php for lots more, •the super-DMCA's being pushed by the RIAA in many states - a software developer in IL pulled his spam and virus fighting software (initial studies »www.hackbusters.net/AAWP.pdf look promising for this type of technology to make spamming unprofitable) due to fear of being prosecuted under the super-DMCA there »www.hackbusters.net/#software , •Proposed law backed by law enforcement for the gathering of DNA samples from arrested, but uncharged and unconvicted individuals in CA - "We promise if the charges are dropped we will destroy the records of the DNA" - yeah, right,•etc.
It may seem absurd now (as it would have been if I said a meth maker would be charged as a chemical weapons maker before the Patriot Act), but I wonder if after a few misguided applications of the CAN SPAM law against non-spammers that some legitimate business will alter their policies about responding to email queries. | |
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GNXPower
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| Re: spammers do suck, but this law sucks, too I have zero problem charging a meth maker with chemical weapons mfg.
Spammers deserve the backlash they are receiving. If they wouldn't resort to such unethical practices to circumvent technology used by people obviously not interested in receiving solicitations, none of these laws would exist.
It should be plainly illegal to use someone else's pay services to advertise, whether it's email, fax or telephone. Advertisers of USPS, television and newspapers PAY for the costs of the delivery and handling of their advertisements and there is the unseen benefit of advertisers subsidizing the cost of doing to businesses...with spammers they do nothing but cost consumers and providers.
The more harsh the penalties for spammers the better. And if anyone is concerned that what they are sending make be considered spam, perhaps they should reconsider whether or not they should send it. | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
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be done in the 18th and 19th centaury. He would be stripped naked, tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail. What would happen is the townsmen would throw
poop, rotten meat, anything that was rotten smelly at him on his way out, plus being naked and straddle on a wooden rail which was bounced up and down very hard the fart knocker's 'nads would be naile
It's to bad we don't have some of the stuff you can read about in the Harry Potter books, dung bombs, howlers, stink sap, etc
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| CCCMTech
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Pound, VA
| I have an idea.. How about canning spam altogether? If I want a service I will look into it, I don't need 1000 businesses advertising in my email. If they want business, advertise. But do it on their web page and in banners and such. No popups! 2 things I wish were never invented and wish we could shove back into oblivion: SPAM and popups.
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Randy Bell
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Santa Clara, CA
| These Spammers Must Be Stopped I agree, spammers need to be stopped, the question is 'how'? They are very clever. Since I got McAfee SpamKiller few months ago, I've noticed how clever they are, with "junk" inside the message text/body and extra characters inserted to avoid spelling keywords like 'Viagra' .. they would say, 'Via-gra' or 'Via&gra' {some variation like that} in the body or subject .. some of them even spoof *YOUR* email address and "reply to" in the header points to *YOU*, making it very hard to filter out. They insert all kinds of random garbage in the message text/html to make it difficult to filter. Sometimes the "message" only contains an image from another domain, with no text; etc. They often employ multiple long names from common domains like yahoo.com, aol.com, etc. -- funny addresses like mxltxplnz1938@yahoo.com -- heh. They are as insidious and clever as virus writers .. and probably should meet the same fate & punishment, too.
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InfamousCow
Milk is overrated
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| Information value? But if it wasn't for spam how would I have found out about the danger in my ass! 
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Zarathustra451
@intel.com | Re: Information value? You guys miss the point! Forward all the SPAM you receive to your "loyal" elected representatives. Let them see the avalanche we deal with and see how fast they fix the problem... | |
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InfamousCow
Milk is overrated
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clubs: | Re: Information value? No I think you missed the point. Humour.
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whistler72
It's Not Purple
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Reading, PA | ...Humour??? Did you turn British all of a sudden? Or maybe you're Canadian!!! *GASP*
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| | | JPCass
join:2001-01-23
Denver, CO
|  Re: What's all the fuss?
said by gateguy :
I know for a fact that it has NOT cost me one cent for the spam that I have received. It also has not cost me that much time to teach my email program to ignore (or tag as junk) spam messages. I have been on too many web sites to count and have signed up for all sorts of emails. But still it does not take me but a minute to move the unwanted emails to the 'JUNK" folder.
It costs your ISP money for bandwidth, filtering, server storage space, policing accounts being used for spamming, dealing with users with hijacked accounts and machines, etc. Who do you think is paying for that? If not for their spam-related costs, which I've seen estimated at $2 per month per user, ISPs would be able to compete more on price or features. Individual users definitely lose, but due to the insidious cost-shifting of spam, it's not immediately obvious.
The cost is probably worst for companies. Spammers send huge amounts of junk to commercial domains. They dictionary spam, sending e-mails to all the common names like "Alice@, Bob@, Cindy@", etc. and also to common administrative account names like postmaster@ - not to mention anything, like customer service addresses, that are posted on web pages. That ties up IT staff, and employees. In the end, consumers pay for all the cost to business. | |
| | | gateguy
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Reisterstown, MD | Re: What's all the fuss? Since I am an early user of the internet, I have not seen MY costs go up at all.
And I think some are fun to read.
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| | | | JPCass
join:2001-01-23
Denver, CO
| Re: What's all the fuss?
Some individuals users may be lucky in the amount of spam they have to handle, though it sounds like for many it is pretty bad. And for anyone who has to manage a personal or business domain, the effects of the dictionary spamming, and address harvesting from DNS and web pages, spam really makes things miserable. | |
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
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join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL
·Bright House
| The headline should be confession of a loser This is the second time we are hearing from a spammer coming out of the woodwork, crying the blues. Like I am going to break down and feel sorry for this guy, I think not.
This guy like all spammers are liars. They make money off of peoples, sorry to say, ignorance. They hide themselves under a cloak and clog peoples email boxes with nothing worthwhile. They do there best to try and circumvent every spam mail blocker so they can send you that email. You tell them you don't want it and they still send you more.
Even with the definition that a spammer is no good, people still but from them. That's why spammers are still spamming away. If people want that garbage, that's there perogative. As for me, I believe there should be no reason why I should be getting spam cause someone else likes it.
Spam is a waist of my time, waist of my money, and invades my privacy. | |
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