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Coke joins quickly crowded music biz
(old news - 06:38PM Monday Dec 08 2003)
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Walmart, Hewlett Packard, MTV, and now Coca-Cola. Is there a company that doesn't have plans to get into the music download business?. According to the UK's MediaGuardian, the company will be the first carbonated sugar-water corporation to join the music downloading business in the UK. MyCokeMusic.com will be launching in January and will offer over 250,000 tracks from 8,500 artists. Former Mp3.com founder Michael Robertson asks the million dollar question in this MP3 Newswire report:

"Apple is leading a race of lemmings into the zero-profit business of closed music downloads. It seems kind of crazy to me, the economics don't make sense. Why are all these guys like Microsoft and Wal-Mart rushing into a business where the industry leader says 'we cannot make money with the contracts that we have'?" It was recently reported that roughly 99 cents out of every dollar Apple makes off their iTunes music service heads back to the five largest labels. Apparently the companies are simply staking their claim in a market that may someday be profitable? For the time being it seems like little more than digital brand advertising.

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mrchris
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wtf?

What the heck? Now a liked cola joins the music DL biz? This is silly.

Diddledick

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Re: wtf?

What people fail to remember is that Apple has set their iTunes up as a zero profit machine. The have it to support and sell iPods. THAT is where the moolah is, not in 99 cent songs.

All the other followers are foolhardy.

CyberSchnook3
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Re: wtf?

said by Diddledick:
All the other followers are foolhardy.

Foolhardy is "MBA" in English, right?
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Re: wtf?

said by CyberSchnook3 See Profile:
Foolhardy is "MBA" in English, right?

On behalf of MBAs everywhere, I'd say foolhardy would better describe people who think ill of highly paid business experts. Most really bad business decisions are made by accountants and sales people that don't listen to their experts.

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You know what I really find silly? The stupid interface that they use.

They make it feel like a virtual studio and dance floor. Holy ****, how stupid can you get?

Just give me the ****ed music, forget the glitzy (stupid) interface.

BuyMusic, iTunes, and Napster has it right, a clean interface with no junk.
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LBDSL
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Apple and Pepsi

Apple has the promo coming up with Pepsi, I didn't think Coke would just sit on their hands
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Re: Apple and Pepsi

COULD this Be Another Joke news story ?

because lately it is becoming unclear ..
CrazyJr

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Re: Apple and Pepsi

said by God See Profile:
COULD this Be Another Joke news story ?

because lately it is becoming unclear ..

Nope, it's true. The link above, MediaGuardian, is real. I'm looking forward to the crowded market. The more competition the better. Let's see who is going to outdo the other. Being that the profit margins are razor thin, that will indicate who is the strongest to survive. I'd say, after the dust settles, it'll iTunes, because they come out with it first; then Napster, because of name recognition. There might even be a couple 'em leftover to pick up the crumbs.

Combat Chuck
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Re: Apple and Pepsi

said by CrazyJr See Profile:

The more competition the better..
The problem is that their not competing to make money; they're competing to possibly maybe make money at some point in the future...maybe. Last time this happened was in the dot-com gold rush, and I should hope we all know the carnage that left (We're all wading thru it right now).

What scares me is they're all going to fight tooth and nail to out-do each other. I fear the one or two services left standing will claim victory only for a few months after which they will succumb to their gaping wounds bleeding the money they used to kill the others; they'll either be sold off or be dissolved in a bankruptcy.
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Re: Apple and Pepsi

said by Combat Chuck See Profile:
The problem is that their not competing to make money; they're competing to possibly maybe make money at some point in the future...maybe. Last time this happened was in the dot-com gold rush, and I should hope we all know the carnage that left (We're all wading thru it right now).
Actually, it's happening right now with wireless. Nobody is making much, if any, money from wireless but everyone is looking to expand their coverage while nobody is ready to sell. Sooner or later the bottom is going to drop out and some wireless companies are going to go belly up.

M A R K
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no joke...

»www.mycokemusic.com/indexflash.html

martmann

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insomx
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This is just insane, Coke and Pepsi should be unique and not copy everything each other does.

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Re: Apple and Pepsi

said by insomx See Profile:
This is just insane, Coke and Pepsi should be unique and not copy everything each other does.
Agreed. That lemon coke/pepsi twist was flat out digusting(at least coke didn't flamboyantly advertise it). The vanilla products from both were good. I have no idea how any of this is relevant.
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This is insane, I guess it's cool for the consumer. More choices is always good, whether they suck or not I don't care! For the simple reason that I don't see anyone beating out iTunes as far as quality goes.
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maybe..

BBR should also offer music downloads

mrchris
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might be best..

If the money goes to the ARTISTS, not the stupid greedy labels.

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the more the marrier?

*little slow tonight I guess.

The more competition the better I guess.

So lets see:
BuyMusic
MusicNow
iTunes
Rhapsody
Napster

Soon:
MTV
WalMart
Microsoft
HP
and Coke?

Now hopefully the consumer doesn't end up with the same rate across the board and same choices.

SeVere

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Re: the more the marrier?

M2DEK said:

Now hopefully the consumer doesn't end up with the same rate across the board and same choices

They will for One reason and One reason only. The RIAA controls the music choice and selection. As long as you have one company controlling everything, you will have the same prices and the same selection.

user726195
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Re: the more the marrier?

You got a point there, then theres the unsigned artists and small record companies.

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I don't think MTV will be in the music business soon. It would be a complete 180 to their current market practice.

user726195
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Re: the more the marrier?

According to the cnet, Viacom plans to launch some service like that like that some time next summer I think.

I guess we'll wait see.

»news.com.com/2100-1027-5109656.h···nefd_hed
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Since when has MTV been in the music business

dvd536
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said by user726195 See Profile:
*little slow tonight I guess.

The more competition the better I guess.

So lets see:
BuyMusic
MusicNow
iTunes
Rhapsody
Napster

Soon:
MTV
WalMart
Microsoft
HP
and Coke?

Now hopefully the consumer doesn't end up with the same rate across the board and same choices.

Specially with the BS 'locked formats' restrictive burning rights and dying content if you cancel the service. these pay services started up right after napster v1 and none of them have a business model id buy from. i download an mp3 here and there but am not into it hardcore. my ideal service would include:
one dollar per track in a normal mp3 format, NO DRM,no extra charge to burn to CDs, no dying downloads if service subscription is cancelled, great selection of content(including out of print stuff). nobody as of yet offers that other than the 'pirate services' and even on those its hard to find the classic out of print stuff.
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Maggs
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Broadbandtunes.com

That's a good domain name for broadbandreports' new music service.
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user726195
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Re: Broadbandtunes.com

The domain is available. Watch as like 50 people that read your post are now trying to snatch up that domain name.
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Commercial Themes Too???

But can you download all of Cokes cool commercial theme songs? They had a few good jingles out there.
IanR

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Bottled Music?

EOM

Synon29

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Re: Bottled Music?

Ditto, I think this is a good thing, the more competition the better.

StEC
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Sweet!

Hey anything Coke related get's the thumbs up from me as you can see!
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BIGMIKE
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Tell Coke to Stop the Violence

Welcome to Cokewatch, a website designed to keep an eye on The Coca-Cola Company, one of the world’s most well-known corporations.
You may be shocked to learn about the conditions under which Coca Cola products are produced and distributed.

In Colombia, for example, union workers who bottle Coca Cola products have been kidnapped, tortured and murdered. The largest Coca Cola union in Colombia has asked for an international campaign against Coke to stop the violence against workers, which has included a half-dozen murders at one plant alone in the mid-1990’s. Reports of these crimes sparked a historic lawsuit against the Coca Cola Company and their Colombian bottler by the International Labor Rights Fund and the United Steelworkers of America on behalf of the Colombian union

»www.cokewatch.org/

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Re: Tell Coke to Stop the Violence

said by BIGMIKE See Profile:
Welcome to Cokewatch, a website designed to keep an eye on The Coca-Cola Company, one of the world’s most well-known corporations.
You may be shocked to learn about the conditions under which Coca Cola products are produced and distributed.

In Colombia, for example, union workers who bottle Coca Cola products have been kidnapped, tortured and murdered. The largest Coca Cola union in Colombia has asked for an international campaign against Coke to stop the violence against workers, which has included a half-dozen murders at one plant alone in the mid-1990’s. Reports of these crimes sparked a historic lawsuit against the Coca Cola Company and their Colombian bottler by the International Labor Rights Fund and the United Steelworkers of America on behalf of the Colombian union

»www.cokewatch.org/

website seems like a shill for pepsi. possible?
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First of all that's not the same Coca Cola company which is here in the U.S .. Coca Cola USA is here in the U.S which also owns part of CCE Coca Cola Enterprise which is in every major city in the U.S. so that website needs to get its imfo right and not associate that crap in South America with the U.S owned Coca Cola . not even owned by the same Company.

avd706
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they already do it

go to www.cokemusic.com aqnd then hit the download link.

worth a giggle

@193.32.x.x

Re: they already do it _NOT!

They try to do it - the site is down, this morning (UK time) it said we are uploading the latest tunes, we'll be available by noon. (garbage in itself - if they have to shut down everytime they load a new song it'll never be up!)

At 12:01 I checked just for fun - now it says try after 4pm.

Pepsico must be laughing themselves silly......

dvd536
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Euro only?

Is this for euro people only?
Alky

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I predict...

The RIAA will still be the ultimate winners.

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Re: I predict...

said by Alky See Profile:
The RIAA will still be the ultimate winners.

Unless WalMart gets them. WalMart has a well deserved reputation for driving prices down from distributors. I guarantee WM is not going to cough up 99 cents out of each dollar to the RIAA. They'll push that price down and put pressure on the RIAA to keep lowering it.

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Bah

Too bad I can't find ANY albums I actually WANT on these services. Not to mention I wouldn't buy any unless they are 320kbit MP3s.

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Re: Bah

if u want 320,u just might as well hav it in a lossless format like FLAC which would be win win for all!!!(on broadband anywayz)
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Re: Bah

Well, I use MP3s on my computer, in my car, and on the go. So I would end up re-encoding lossless anyway. But either would be fine to me. Actually lossless might be a bit better, because I usually re-encode lossless files to ver high bitrate VBR to save some space over 320k.
tomj1226

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thanks but no thanks

The reason no one is making any money in this is because all the profit goes to the record labels, the ones who support RIAA. We can have all the competition in the world, and as long as anyone offering music for sale via download has to pay them a buck a tune, the price isn't going to drop to less than a dollar. And as long as they're charging us a buck or more a tune, I'll continue to download as much music as possible via Kazaa/Morpheus (of course, ahem, I am only downloading to back up original CD's which I purchased, for archival purposes. ahem) Sorry about the sore throat.

cob_
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Re: thanks but no thanks

Says at the bottom that the website is intended for use by people in Great Britain.

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Over at Itunes there was a button for Pepsi

Also one that button was a blurb saying 100 million free songs comming in feb.

»www.apple.com/itunes/

Maybe Coke is just trying to keep up with pepsi.

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Why download music at all?

Except for the whole instant gratification thing, why download music at all? iTunes and their competitors tend to cost $0.99 per song. I can buy a used CD off of Half.com or Amazon.com for about $5 or less most times. Assuming an average of 12 songs per CD, that comes to $0.42 per song. I can then rip the CD into whatever format/bitrate that I want. I also have the original CD to use as a backup in case something happens to my ripped copies. (And no, those ripped copies don't go onto P2P apps. They're strictly for my own personal use.)

In addition, none of that money goes back to the RIAA (despite the fact that they'd love to sink their teeth into the used CD market). I guess the only time I would buy from an online service would be if I just had to have a song today and I couldn't get a good deal on the CD or didn't like any other songs on the CD. Then again, when you can get the whole CD for $5 or less, you're more forgiving about songs you don't care about being on it.
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Pepsi vs. Coke. Who Gives A Sh!t? -- by Chris Yoch

Pepsi vs. Coke. Who Gives A Shit? -- by Chris Yochum

Pepsi, Coke, Pepsi, Coke who cares. I am so sick of Pepsi and Coke commercials. Commercials exist to make consumers aware of products (typically new ones). Well who the hell is not aware of the 2 major soft drink enterprises: Pepsi and Coke?

This is what happens: You are born. You do not give a shit about soft drink products. You like milky boobs, putting stuff in your mouth, and shitting your pants. Then you get a bit older. Your mom or dad keep either Pepsi or Coke in the fridge. This will most likely dictate if you are a Pepsi or Coke fan (nobody likes both, everyone has a preference). So there you go. No commercial is going to convert a Coke fan to a Pepsi fan or vice versa. Some people probably like RC cola, food club cola, W cola, or some other generic brand cola.

So why all the crummy commercials? The worst commercials come from Pepsi. That stupid curly haired girl (curly sue) with the voice-overs and stuff just make me want to throw something heavy at my TV screen. And have you seen the new Pepsi commercial with Britney Spears. I mean have you seen this crap? Crossroads looks like it is going to be a great movie by the way "so it's about these girls who make the conclusion to go on a road trip and they find things out about themselves and really define their friendship and it is not at all a bit over-marketed to girls ages 4 - 10". Coke has Garth Brooks singing some dumb song. I do not need a celebrity selling me products. I sure hope Terry Bradshaw does another collect call commercial because he is so funny. A celebrity is used for 2 reasons.

1. To draw attention to the commercial.

2. To make you want the product because this celebrity is adored by some 85% of the general population.

Do you think Garth Brooks believes in the power of Coke, or maybe he just likes getting a check ever since Achy-Breaky heart stopped rocking the trailer parks.

I guess the bottom line is that you either like Coke or Pepsi, and no celebrity or commercial is going to change that. So please stop the painfully insulting commercials.

We need more commercials with guys getting hit in the nuts and stuff. Remember the Noid? How about the old Little Caesars commercials? Don't forget to throw in a monkey every now and then.

Chris.

I sent this letter to Coke and Pepsi. See Pepsi-Cola's reply below.

Hello!

Thank you for taking the time to contact us here at the Pepsi-Cola Company regarding our recent advertising. We genuinely appreciate your comments and your taking the time to share them with us. I can assure you; we attach a great deal of importance to the views of our valued consumers. As you'd probably guess, it's extremely important to us at Pepsi that our advertising serves to enhance the positive image that's helped place our brands among the world's most popular consumer products. Anything that we do that detracts from that effort, clearly, represents a less than desirable effect.

Therefore, your comments will be shared with our advertising department. We want them to be aware of your opinion regarding our advertising, and to make it a part of their considerations in future work. Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact us.

-The Pepsi World Webmaster
webmaster@pepsi.com
»www.pepsi.com

»www.bettawreckonize.com/features···oke.html
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Re: Pepsi vs. Coke. Who Gives A Sh!t? -- by Chris Yoch

Way to funny!

My opinion on coke/pepsi doing the mp3 downloads is nothing more than advertisement for their products. I'm sure the next thing will be.. buy a six pack, get 3 free downloads or something stupid like that. Didn't Pizza Hut do something like this..buy a pizza, we will make you a cd with x amount of songs on it?
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Speaking of Coke and Mp3's

Here is a link to a nice little vanilla coke mp3 player created during the beta test of screenweaver.

»www.screenweaver.com/downloads/s···coke.exe

liongood9

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Music doesn't go with Coco Cola

Coco Cola should stick with Coco Cola. They should have nothing to do with music since the company is all about beverage. They should spend more of their time finding new ingredients for the beverage to make it more tastier. Music and Coco Cola doesn't go together.
banticperson

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Re: Music doesn't go with Coco Cola

I don't think coke and pepsi are really in for for the money but it is just another way for them to promote their product like when pepsi gave away that rocket cash and with when pizzahut distributed free dvds with your pizza. They not doing it to diversify the business but to strengthen the marketing campaigns. Other company like Walmart and mircosoft maybe looking at for the long haul but for pepsi and coke i doubt it will last that long.

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How about these...

Walmart now offers a computer-repair service.
Canadian Tire now offers long-distance phone service.
Loblaws offers financial services...

Its all about big business spending their money elsewhere in the hopes of making more money. Diversification.

Edit: grammatical

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MSN Music service

I was reading about the MSN music download service and I thought you might be interested in the representive for the service. The Tick states he is happy to be MSN's representative. The new motto for the service is "I have no Brain but I'll download all the same".

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