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This moron needs to be voted out at the next opportunity.
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Springfield, MO | Re: Enough already We need to find a way to get a message out strongly enough
to get him voted out of office. How 'bout an email campaign? | |
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Good Ol Dan
join:2000-05-15
Rochelle Park, NJ | Re: Enough already I suppose dumping CDs into Boston harbor would be out of the question... propably against some environmental law or another (unless we called it an artificial reef?) 
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| I think the RIAA's boytoys in the Senate could pass a law making the RIAA a government entity, and it wouldn't matter. It would simply prove what bought-off idiots our congresspeople are, and serve to further piss off the populace and make them hate the entertainment industry eveh more than they do now, if that's even possible.
What nobody in charge seems to realize is that music and movies are frills; they are not necessities, they are not a public utility. We don't need Vivendi, Warner Brothers, and Sony Music. They are completely optional entities.
$20 CDs and online downloads for music? Great; that'll just make "piracy" (arrr, mateys!) go further underground.
I haven't bought a CD in 5 years, save -directly- from a band I liked, so whatever. I really don't see anything new and compelling coming out that makes me really give a crap. Nothing's going to save this business. Nothing.
(Although, I just did read Britney's new sh*t-coated album is number one. WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE? WE ARE SURROUNDED BY MORONS!)
One thing is for sure though, anyone who votes for Bush next November under the guise "HES SAVING US FROM TEH TERRUR!" needs to be promptly get tattooed with "stupid" on his head. Never before has an administration and it's lapdog congress been so sickeningly friendly to big business and so into "servicing" the average citizen (George Carlin's definition, of course.) | |
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Imperial Beach, CA | Never before has an administration um, REAGAN mabye? the term reagenomics ring a bell...? | |
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NOVA_Guy
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| Re: It really doesn't matter. said by tcp1 :
One thing is for sure though, anyone who votes for Bush next November under the guise "HES SAVING US FROM TEH TERRUR!" needs to be promptly get tattooed with "stupid" on his head. Never before has an administration and it's lapdog congress been so sickeningly friendly to big business and so into "servicing" the average citizen (George Carlin's definition, of course.)
Right now I plan on voting for Bush, but that's only because I have yet to see a Democratic candidate whose plans include:
- Tax cuts/relief for middle class (at least I've gotten some money back under Bush)
- Good, strategic plans to keep our military properly funded (Bush has at least increased funding back to a somewhat reasonable level from where Clinton's "disassembly" strategy put it)
- Any reasonable changes to the PATRIOT Act and DMCA (neither Bush nor any of the Democratic candidates are any less bought-and-paid-for in this area)
I also have yet to see any Democratic candidate whose level of intelligence surpasses Bush-- and that's scary, considering what I think of him in general.
And, of course, some of the Democratic candidates making statements like the California recall election was "an attempt by the right wing" of this country to "take over" the state just plain makes me wonder how much psychiatric treatment they are currently undergoing. Such statements sound like rampant paranoia to me. Why must these candidates try so hard to play to the extreme "under psychiatric treatment" left wing of the Democratic party?
Or for that matter, why must Bush constantly try so hard to play to and help only the extreme right wing of the Republican party? I don't have a problem with a business-friendly administration creating an environment that fosters business growth, but such an environment should not be created at the expense of individual rights and privileges. I would be one of the first to agree that the Bush administration has been playing this game over the past few years.
At this point, I'm far from being a 100%, die-in-the-wool Bush supporter. I would have liked nothing better than to see somebody challenge him for the Republican nomination and win. That being said, why am I planning to vote for Bush? Simple-- because given the current field of presidential candidates, Bush seems to be the lesser of all evils.
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Varangian
join:2002-12-08
Collinsville, IL
| Re: It really doesn't matter. Well if those position weren't lies, he might be an attractive candidate.
Nixon was run out in disgrace for far less than the current dictator has done. Bush jr couldn't carry tricky dick's jockstrap.
But back to hatch- I would think the normally fastidious mormons would have a problem being represented by shuch an obvious WHORE. | |
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| said by NOVA_Guy :
said by tcp1 :
One thing is for sure though, anyone who votes for Bush next November under the guise "HES SAVING US FROM TEH TERRUR!" needs to be promptly get tattooed with "stupid" on his head. Never before has an administration and it's lapdog congress been so sickeningly friendly to big business and so into "servicing" the average citizen (George Carlin's definition, of course.)
Right now I plan on voting for Bush, but that's only because I have yet to see a Democratic candidate whose plans include:
- Tax cuts/relief for middle class (at least I've gotten some money back under Bush)
- Good, strategic plans to keep our military properly funded (Bush has at least increased funding back to a somewhat reasonable level from where Clinton's "disassembly" strategy put it)
- Any reasonable changes to the PATRIOT Act and DMCA (neither Bush nor any of the Democratic candidates are any less bought-and-paid-for in this area)
I also have yet to see any Democratic candidate whose level of intelligence surpasses Bush-- and that's scary, considering what I think of him in general.
And, of course, some of the Democratic candidates making statements like the California recall election was "an attempt by the right wing" of this country to "take over" the state just plain makes me wonder how much psychiatric treatment they are currently undergoing. Such statements sound like rampant paranoia to me. Why must these candidates try so hard to play to the extreme "under psychiatric treatment" left wing of the Democratic party?
Or for that matter, why must Bush constantly try so hard to play to and help only the extreme right wing of the Republican party? I don't have a problem with a business-friendly administration creating an environment that fosters business growth, but such an environment should not be created at the expense of individual rights and privileges. I would be one of the first to agree that the Bush administration has been playing this game over the past few years.
At this point, I'm far from being a 100%, die-in-the-wool Bush supporter. I would have liked nothing better than to see somebody challenge him for the Republican nomination and win. That being said, why am I planning to vote for Bush? Simple-- because given the current field of presidential candidates, Bush seems to be the lesser of all evils.
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Wichita, KS | What does Bush have to do with this? Nothing that is what. Hatch was in office long before Bush ever became president. | |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | so MS, AT&T, IBM cant have a monopoly without a court case, but this guy wants to let the music industry have total control without any government checks.
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oliphant5
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2 edits |  Whorein Hatch
And this scumbag will heretofore be known as Whorein.
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Collinsville, IL | Re: Whorein Hatch Agreed- as long as i dont have to look at him in a sequined tube top and hot pants!! | |
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oliphant5
Got Identity?
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1 edit | And who the hell does this F represent... The constituents of HIS state...or Constitution shreading douchebags in Hollywood.
Voters in his state need to wake up and see that THEY ARE NOT BEING REPRESENTED.
F-word...this gets me so pissed off. These Fs bicker about each other while every damn one of them is corrupt as hell. The whole lot of those greedy MFers in the Senate need to be thrown out on their asses and made to get real jobs like Joe Davis here in Cali. | |
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join:2000-05-15
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| Re: And who the hell does this F represent... said by oliphant5 :
The constituents of HIS state...or Constitution shreading douchebags in Hollywood.
Voters in his state need to wake up and see that THEY ARE NOT BEING REPRESENTED.
Well... we are talking about Utah after all! The entire population of the state ought to hop in a bus or two and drive to DC to pick up this idiot and take him home.
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HotRodFoto
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Denver, CO | Actually, the whole entire state of Utah should vote all of their Gov't outta town. They have some really bizzare laws in that state. | |
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biggknifeparty
join:2001-03-03
Winnipeg, MB | they're a bunch of mormons... they are pretty weird.. lol | |
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join:2001-11-26
Sacramento, CA
| Re: And who the hell does this F represent... Yeah you could say that again. And if I could actually get to Hatch I would be more than happy to haul his a$$ out of congress and into a very small, very dark hole in the ground for the rest of his life. Though for the record our entire government isn't bad. Just the majority of it. I mean someone came up with UTOPIA after all. | |
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join:2001-04-03
Bronx, NY
| Goverment for the people by the people I think that in the last 30 years of so, our form of goverment has changed from being a goverment for the people by the people to a goverment by a few for whoever can contribute to my canpaing fund. the only way to stop this. for one brave politician to come up with legislation like this one.
no corporation, action committee, law firm (or individial lawyer), think tank, or any form organaiztion be allowed to give to any politian (this would include paid trips, gifts, or anything). the only form of contribution that will be allowed would be by individuals and that would be caped at $250.00. corporations will be barred from asking there employees to contribute to a specific campaing.
tv and radio networks will have to donate all those running for office equal time for ads for free, since they are using our em spectrum.
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New Castle, PA | Re: Goverment for the people by the people You have nailed it right on the head. Our system of government has left the citizenry behind and become self-serving. Enough is enough.
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Seandhi
Seeing From a New Level
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join:2003-04-19
Humble, TX
| This is what has happened by letting the federal government grab too much power. There is no competition between the states to be the best state to live in. There is now only one all powerful Federal Government.
Next election, vote for those who want to limit federal power. Vote for the American People! Vote Libertarian... »www.lp.org
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Chicago, IL | Blaaa All these anti-piracy laws aren't really working. | |
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macaholic
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Jackson Heights, NY | riddle: who is on RIAA's payroll??? doooh... see above | |
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shuubz
A Good Kind Of Pain
join:2001-02-12
Dexter, MI
| We the people, for sale
The more unjust and unreasonable laws, the less respect there is for law in general.
The only way to explain this provision is that they bought the right politicians. The public interest has nothing to do with it.
People will seek out fair-use material when they get tired of paying the monopolist's fee. When there's no money left in the monopolist's pocket to bribe the politicians, the law will be repealed.
Silly way to run a government.
The ineffective spam legislation is also a joke. People and companies will obtain more effective spam filtering, and use it more aggressively (www.spambayes.org). If someone doesn't want to see your commercial messages, they'll usually manage to avoid them (as TiVo has enabled us to do in our house).
Side note: PA is one of the states that passed a Super-DMCA law, which essentially outlawed firewalls and NAT routers because of overbroad language. This law is effectively ignored, because it is unenforceable, and unjustifiable.
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
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| What an idiot I guess each party has to have an idiot, Republican's have
Senator Hatch, and the Democrats have Senator Byrd. I can't believe Hatch come from Utah. He has really lost touch with his constituency. Doesn't this idiot realize
it the RIAA's monopoly that is causing the problem. Doesn't he realize the RIAA and the MPAA are not companies
but trade organizations. The RIAA painted themselves into this corner and they are going to have to get themselves out. Well I will add this brain fart to his other one about blasting hard drives.
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Varangian
join:2002-12-08
Collinsville, IL
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I feel like a shark that's just detected a nice fat seal bleeding in the water.
Time to POUR ON the counter suits, ladies and gentlemen.
You might also want to inform your congressional reps that support of the riaa puts them on the "bought and paid for" list in an election year. | |
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Can you say Bed-Buddies???
RIAA & MPAA were, and always have been REAL close, and I stress CLOSE to the federal government. This mixed with the new expanded powers of the US Patriot Act & Secret Court, have a devastating effect on our privacy and inevitably freedoms.
Isn't it illegal to shoot an eagle in the ass?
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Denver, CO | Re: Ahhhh....it all makes sense now.... Ya he needs to go......he's bbeen bought off big time and has been for awhile now. Someone should investigate him. Hmmmm I wish Bill O'Reiley read this forum! | |
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join:2003-03-13
Chicago, IL
1 edit | If someone here has a membership, please e-mail the link to this thread to him. Politicians such as Hatch are like cockroaches-shine the light of honesty on them and they scurry back under the refrigerator. This story needs to be picked up by all the major media outlets.
I just e-mailed a link to this thread to CNN. | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
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| banding togather Now you understand why organizations such as the ARRL, NRA,
and Gun Owner's of American will not compromise give an inch and these "vested interests" will take 50 miles.
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draco 3
join:2003-09-30
Pasadena, TX | It has come down to..... voting for the lesser of two evils
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join:2002-05-30
Owego, NY | Re: It has come down to..... well old down the hatch orin is probably a high ranking member of the morman church and in utah those folks always get re-elected
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
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join:2002-12-20
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| Good riddance Just for everyone's information, Orrin Hatch is leaving office. He will be retiring once his time is up. I guess he wants to make a lasting impression and legacy for himself before he leaves. I bid him farewell and good riddance.
I always thought a politician was elected by the people for the people? It seems that Orrin Hatch was elected by the people for his own personal gain which his own legislation proves the point. | |
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Fritz did the greatest thing for our freedom....by retiring
A good Republicrat and Democan side by side. | |
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Varlik
Without Honor You Will Never Be Free
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join:2002-01-06
Anderson, SC | Say it with me now ............ SPECIAL INTERESTS
Anyone want to bet that Both the RIAA and MPPA are both high upon Senator Orrin Hatch's list of campaign fund contributors. | |
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Iowan5
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| Re: Say it with me now ............ said by Varlik :
SPECIAL INTERESTS
Anyone want to bet that Both the RIAA and MPPA are both high upon Senator Orrin Hatch's list of campaign fund contributors.
7 TV/Movies/Music $152,360
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