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Congress heads home undecided
(old news - 03:24PM Wednesday Nov 26 2003)
tags: prices · Politics
Congress will be heading home for the holidays without solving the Internet tax ban riddle that's been facing them for months. States and providers worry about lost revenue, while many believe taxing connectivity could stifle broadband growth. The original tax ban expired on November 1, and if this Information Week report is any indication, Congress won't be voting on the issue until 2004 because of legislative gridlock. The Multi-state Tax Commission (lobbyists representing state interests) argue the current proposal would cost state and local governments in excess of $8.75 billion a year by 2006. Ten states; grand-fathered by previous legislation, currently tax web access (everything from Dial-up to DSL) and claim they could stand to lose between $80 and $120 million annually.

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oliphant5
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They have enough friggin' money

They don't need to be stealing a dime more.

Mellow
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Most hated word in english TAX

I would be down with a tax if the money was used to lay fiber or something good. Of course they would find the most lazy mafia family run fiber laying company around to do the work. So until I can trust them to use the money wisely they can kiss my a$$ and keep their greedy paws off the net. Which will be no time soon. Why cant they just use my idea of taxing every mexican crossing the border?

Transmaster
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Re: Most hated word in english TAX

na they are already taxing the Mexican to much now, they have to walk.
dylking

join:2001-07-31
Saint Paul, MN

and they still forget a word...

"Potential"

Potential losses. You can't lose what you don't get.

I'd rather not have the internet taxed. I'm already 'taxed' on accessing it. I'm already taxed enough as it is.
11337845
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Re: and they still forget a word...

said by dylking See Profile:
"Potential"

Potential losses. You can't lose what you don't get.

I'd rather not have the internet taxed. I'm already 'taxed' on accessing it. I'm already taxed enough as it is.

"Ten states; grand-fathered by previous legislation, currently tax web access (everything from Dial-up to DSL) and claim they could stand to lose between $80 and $120 million annually.
Posted 11-26 15:24 See: prices Politics "

It said 10 states ALREADY tax based on their laws that were passed before this. They really would lose tax money.

Brianv5
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Solid gold toilet

How else are they going to get their bathrooms redecorated?

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Varangian

join:2002-12-08
Collinsville, IL

Re: Solid gold toilet

Gold?
Why go cheap, let's get a layer of polished iridium on that seat

Varangian

join:2002-12-08
Collinsville, IL

Potential Losses

Yes, i hold a degree in aero engineering ..
I am losing billions of dollars a year because people aren't buying my revisted Saturn boosters.
So I need the G to force tax money from them and deliver it to me..
Oh Yeahhh

cyberthugin

join:2002-03-12
Kew Gardens, NY

My name is Tax

I think the united states of america should be renamed to united taxes of america.
Seems like the Gov't is tax crazy.
Soon people are going to revolt like they did in Bostin with the Boston Tea Party.
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Brianv5
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Re: My name is Tax

Actually, if you think about it.... The American Revolution started with less than is going on today. Throw taxes, war and econmy in the mix... its a wonder there has been a revolution yet!

NO, I'm not advertising for one... just saying that's all.
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oliphant5
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Re: My name is Tax

There is one starting in California. Governor ousted...lameass laws getting repealed...taxes repealed...

Revolución

Duo Maxwell
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Racine, WI

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Viva la revolution!!! Why don't we just start one already then? I'm game.

[EDIT] spelling.
Sprinter99

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Re: My name is Tax

I'm in, but make no mistake as to who will be in charge...
This just popped up in random fortunes: If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom;
and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money it values more, it will lose that, too. -- W. Somerset Maugham

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said by Brianv5 See Profile:
Actually, if you think about it.... The American Revolution started with less than is going on today. Throw taxes, war and econmy in the mix... its a wonder there has been a revolution yet!
Hi BrianV et al- This is your friendly NSA Echelon computer. I'm afraid that based on your last post(s), I'm going to have to have some men visit you at your home(s) on Friday morning. Please have ready all internet access records, a complete list of friends, enemies and references (we will need to chat with them too) Also, it would be in your best interest to amass a pile of documentation, ahead of time, proving beyond a reasonable doubt that you are not a seditious operative, subversive, terrorist, or someone who has made fun of "Dub-ya" for any reason at all.

We actually have no issue with your first paragraph. We key on those words all the time. We here at Echelon are not really human but we understand human frustration and the need to vent occasionally. Your second statement (quoted below) has flagged you for a follow up visit. Come on BrianV, we all (at Echelon) know what that really means, and you will too when we're done explaining it to you.

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NO, I'm not advertising for one... just saying that's all.

If you feel you have received this friendly notice of anti-patriotic e-mail violations, in error, well it's probably your error.

Upon completion of our follow up visit, you will most likely experience one of the following: 1.) If we cannot find a statute that you are in violation of and, John Ashcroft can't make one up real quick then you will be released (being released does not guarantee you will be allowed to keep your e-mail generating apparatus) 2.) You may be required to perform a certain number of hours of community service work in your area (yes, we know where you live). Most likely you will be required to spend a set amount of hours at various George Bush fund raisers and / or rallies working as a SMILING, HAPPY member of a large, adoring crowd. Failure to smile may cause you to move to the last action. 3.) you could just disappear for a long, long time to an unknown location, without ever really being charged for a crime.

LOL - But I have to end this now because I am scaring myself. I guess the Founding Fathers and Boston Tea Party attendees might have actually had an advantage over us because of their technology at the time. Can you just picture them discussing Echelon or some other federal "monitoring" program at the first continental congress? "Hmmm, should we add this one to the constitution? I don't know. I could go either way on it."

OOPS! Edited to remove the Echelon system description / brag tag signature line. (For national security reasons, of course)

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said by cyberthugin See Profile:
I think the united states of america should be renamed to united taxes of america.
Seems like the Gov't is tax crazy.
Soon people are going to revolt like they did in Bostin with the Boston Tea Party.

Oh my gosh living in the U.S. feels like spending a weekend at Michael Jackson's house.

Anything else Uncle Sam?? (bends over & prepares for pain).
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Synon29

join:2003-09-13
Cabot, AR

Re: My name is Tax

I already pay tax, on tax on tax on everything else. They don't need to tax the internet. They need to reform the way that they spend their money. If they spent their money the way they were supposed to they'd have enough. Of course this isn't going to happen, and I wouldn't be shocked if they went ahead and taxed us.

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said by cyberthugin See Profile:
I think the united states of america should be renamed to united taxes of america.
Seems like the Gov't is tax crazy.
Soon people are going to revolt like they did in Bostin with the Boston Tea Party.

Nah!!! never happen...the average American today is to stupid, too lazy and doesn't give a flying centavo what the government does to them....

T RAVER

join:2003-10-02
Calgary, AB

Spoiled Americans...hehe

You guys are complaining about taxes? Ah, I would too..Down with Taxes!

Arcadies
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Greeneville, TN

bah..

They need to keep their paws off the net, I already have to pay a horrible 9.75% sales tax on stuff I buy local like food and household goods (yes even these can be purchased online but i'm not too keen on the idea of .com food just yet)

It's nice to have a little reprieve once in a while and not get bent over when it comes to high dollar items like pc hardware, etc. that I buy online, NO WAY am I paying 9.75% on that stuff local..
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Taxation overload

When this was passed wasnt it a permanent ban? why the heck do they keep trying to reverse this law?. they wont be satisfied until they got internet tax and email postage.
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Duo Maxwell
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Re: Taxation overload

They won't be happy till they have a tax on everything, then they'll try to tax the taxes too. I hate the government, would total chaos be all that bad? We wouldn't have to pay taxes.

Synon29

join:2003-09-13
Cabot, AR

Re: Taxation overload

Doesn't the government already charge tax on tax? And no total chaos does not sound like fun. I'll take what we have now with a few changes.

Duo Maxwell
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Racine, WI

Re: Taxation overload

You haven't been to a public high school recently have you? At least in my town, the teachers don't give a sh!t and you can get away with anything, provided you don't do it in front of one of the several armed cops.

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New Milford, CT

I wouldn't mind an internet tax is they just stopped taxing primary domiciles instead.
The primary things like food, shelter and clothing should NEVER be taxed.
We have a growing homeless problem in this country, and an increasing portion is former homeowners who were evicted for 'tax delinquency'. Our town is selling out over a million dollars in back tax liens this month. Those poor folks will be sleeping on the streets next month.

As far as an internet tax goes, it's a matter of distribution of tax burden. If they don't ease up somewhere else, inevitably some people will do without it.

We DO need another revolution, but the education system has made 'good little socialists' out of the present generation. Furthermore, the average resident is too busy working a slave labor job for starvation wages and drinking beer and watching porn on the weekends to be too concerned about it. That's also why folks use drugs--to escape a reality they are powerless to change. Government is the source of ALL problems. It is never a solution.
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