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| "I want my DTV and I WANT IT NOW" said by pnh102  :According to some, we could see billions, possibly trillions, of innocent, completely unsuspecting people DIE SLOW PAINFUL DEATHS because they had no clue this was coming! said by SSX4life :These people deserve to die if that is the case. Old / senile / and incompetent... do we really need to hold onto analog THAT much longer for those people that don't get it? Both of you should be ashamed of yourselves, but I'd bet you aren't.
Seriously, wishing death on people? For what? It matters so much to you that you get your DTV, and get it NOW, that you'd wish death on people who'd loose their signal completely if not delayed til all this stuff is worked out?
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Seriously, wishing death on people? For what? It matters so much to you that you get your DTV, and get it NOW, that you'd wish death on people who'd lose their signal completely if not delayed til all this stuff is worked out?
You both are remarkable examples.
I read those remarks as sarcastic, not the same as you did.
Esp since I'm sure pnh102 is aware there are *only* abour 300 million people in the US, and according to PT Barnum's theory, about only 30 million are clueless. I don't know that the planet can ever support a trillion people, at least not until there's fiber to every home. | |
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| I for one have zero respect for people with loose signals. I mean, what kind of example does it set for our children when signals are just flopping around loose, all willy-nilly?
I say it is high time we tightened up our loose signals, and quickly!
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| Re: "I want my DTV and I WANT IT NOW" said by CrazyFingers :I for one have zero respect for people with loose signals. I mean, what kind of example does it set for our children when signals are just flopping around loose, all willy-nilly? I say it is high time we tightened up our loose signals, and quickly! Doesn't the Duct Tape/ WD40 dichotomy get enacted here?
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| Re: Oh NOEZ! said by SSX4life :These people deserve to die if that is the case. Old / senile / and incompetent... do we really need to hold onto analog THAT much longer for those people that don't get it? I think if you bothered to actually RESEARCH the subject, you would find that the majority of unprepared parties are YOUNG / CLUELESS / MORONS (possibly like you)...
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| said by SSX4life :These people deserve to die if that is the case. Old / senile / and incompetent... do we really need to hold onto analog THAT much longer for those people that don't get it?
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| Re: Oh NOEZ! said by pnh102 :According to some, we could see billions, possibly trillions, of innocent, completely unsuspecting people DIE SLOW PAINFUL DEATHS because they had no clue this was coming! Alarmist are we? 
Actually, just proves that even with the deadline, a lot of stations weren't *really* ready like everyone thought they were. So all the nay sayers about all those *other* people who will never be ready no matter what, turns out the stations were the same way.
Where I live, all the major stations didn't bother with the switch over, surprising it was the little "UHF" stations that were quicker to change over than them, go figure 
Enjoy your DTV or what few stations have switched. Last I checked with all of those *other* people, a lot of outlining areas can't pick up the *new* stations that switched last night, too bad I guess.
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| Re: Oh NOEZ! The STATIONS ARE ready. It's Joe Sixpack consumer who doesn't realize that just about all (but not 100%) broadcasters have been broadcasting a digital as well as analog signal for the past couple years.
Even at that , as a nation we are over 95% ready (between cable/satellite and digital TVs / converter boxes) - the original legislation only required 85% for a particular market to go.
And it's NOT the over 55 crowd that's holding this up - it's 18-30 crowd who are least prepared.
Let's just require all FOX stations to power down analog on "American Idol" night and we'll see how fast that crowd will get ready.... | |
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| Re: Oh NOEZ! said by scooper :The STATIONS ARE ready. It's Joe Sixpack consumer who doesn't realize that just about all (but not 100%) broadcasters have been broadcasting a digital as well as analog signal for the past couple years. Even at that , as a nation we are over 95% ready (between cable/satellite and digital TVs / converter boxes) - the original legislation only required 85% for a particular market to go. And it's NOT the over 55 crowd that's holding this up - it's 18-30 crowd who are least prepared. Let's just require all FOX stations to power down analog on "American Idol" night and we'll see how fast that crowd will get ready.... LOL and yet probably so true , the last part certainly deserves a thumbs up. 
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| said by scooper :And it's NOT the over 55 crowd that's holding this up - it's 18-30 crowd who are least prepared. But you can't state actual facts. If you say it's the 25 year olds that aren't ready, not the 75 year olds, you wouldn't get the sympathy you need to get support for the delay. No one cares if some 25 year old failed to get ready or educate themselves. Everyone would just think he was a typcial slacker of his generation. | |
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| Re: Oh NOEZ! said by BF69 :Everyone would just think he was a typcial slacker of his generation. Every generation has slackers, at least in the eyes of the generations older then the accused. | |
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| said by knightmb :Where I live, all the major stations didn't bother with the switch over, surprising it was the little "UHF" stations that were quicker to change over than them, go figure Almost all stations except those forced to flash-cut on their existing analog channel have been broadcasting a digital signal for months...some for years...now. This is not so much a switchover than a discontinuance of redundant transmission.
Those little UHF stations probably could not afford the cost of running their 100 KW+ transmitters past today and shut them off as planned (and budgeted).
Very few stations aren't ready to go. The major network O&Os, though, decided to wait until June 12. That was a corporate decision not necessarily supported by local management or engineering.
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| Re: Oh NOEZ! said by RadioDoc :Very few stations aren't ready to go. The major network O&Os, though, decided to wait until June 12. That was a corporate decision not necessarily supported by local management or engineering. I agree, I'm sure there is some corporate gears in the works, but looking from the outside of (is it on or not), in my area at least. A Christian station, WNAB (the WB), UPN, and Fox all switched. The big '3' though (ABC, NBC, CBS) remain analog? I mean, they do and they don't have DTV going because it's still too weak to pick up or they just haven't switched the power switch from low to high yet.
Is it any surprise that the little stations more faster than the big ones or is it just corporate slugs that are big really move that slow?
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| Re: Oh NOEZ! It's mostly a ratings decision. They're all ready to go and have been for months...years in some cases where the post-transition channel is the same as the interim channel.
The smaller stations have little motivation and less budget to keep analog going.
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| said by knightmb :said by RadioDoc :Very few stations aren't ready to go. The major network O&Os, though, decided to wait until June 12. That was a corporate decision not necessarily supported by local management or engineering. I agree, I'm sure there is some corporate gears in the works, but looking from the outside of (is it on or not), in my area at least. A Christian station, WNAB (the WB), UPN, and Fox all switched. The big '3' though (ABC, NBC, CBS) remain analog? I mean, they do and they don't have DTV going because it's still too weak to pick up or they just haven't switched the power switch from low to high yet. Is it any surprise that the little stations more faster than the big ones or is it just corporate slugs that are big really move that slow? Umm, there is no such thing as The WB and/or UPN anymore. Both of those networks shut down a couple of years ago, and formed The CW. | |
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| Re: Oh NOEZ! said by taz291819 :said by knightmb :said by RadioDoc :Very few stations aren't ready to go. The major network O&Os, though, decided to wait until June 12. That was a corporate decision not necessarily supported by local management or engineering. I agree, I'm sure there is some corporate gears in the works, but looking from the outside of (is it on or not), in my area at least. A Christian station, WNAB (the WB), UPN, and Fox all switched. The big '3' though (ABC, NBC, CBS) remain analog? I mean, they do and they don't have DTV going because it's still too weak to pick up or they just haven't switched the power switch from low to high yet. Is it any surprise that the little stations more faster than the big ones or is it just corporate slugs that are big really move that slow? Umm, there is no such thing as The WB and/or UPN anymore. Both of those networks shut down a couple of years ago, and formed The CW. And the former UPN stations are now "MyNetwork TV." | |
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| The FCC went directly to the network heads and urged them to keep their O&Os and affiliates (at least those in the top fifty DMAs) broadcasting in analog up to the new June deadline. Surprisingly, the loudest screaming (at least from the broadcasters) could be seen (and heard) coming from Washington, DC (and especially at the two test stations for DTV, WRC-TV/DT and WUSA-TV/DT), as they were decidedly NOT happy with the forced delay. The delay has put WUSA-TV/DT in particular into a bind, as they had figured to open up a commanding lead over WRC-TV/DT, as the NBC O&O is now the only "Big Four" station in the DMA not to have local news in HD (WUSA was the first, and both WJLA and WTTG switched to local news in HD within the past two weeks). Even worse, Gannett (owners of WUSA) has been leading the CBS affiliated stations, and have managed to actually get to one hundred-percent conversion (something which CBS itself has not managed to do with their Owned Stations Group *yet*).
Once again, the chiefs may be happy with the delay; however, the troops (operations and engineering staff) largely aren't. | |
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| said by knightmb :said by pnh102 :According to some, we could see billions, possibly trillions, of innocent, completely unsuspecting people DIE SLOW PAINFUL DEATHS because they had no clue this was coming! Alarmist are we? Actually, just proves that even with the deadline, a lot of stations weren't *really* ready like everyone thought they were. So all the nay sayers about all those *other* people who will never be ready no matter what, turns out the stations were the same way. Probably more correct to say that most of those station that do not switch did not get the special dispensation from the FCC. I bet the vast majority were able to go digital but the FCC would not let them - thank god my area is not affected - they are all going digital today like all of them should have done. | |
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| Re: Oh NOEZ! said by CylonRed :Probably more correct to say that most of those station that do not switch did not get the special dispensation from the FCC. I bet the vast majority were able to go digital but the FCC would not let them - thank god my area is not affected - they are all going digital today like all of them should have done. Nope. Most were ready to go technically but someone upstairs blinked. Nothing like a ratings period to shrink corporate weenie.
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1 edit | Re: Oh NOEZ! Nope, your assumption that they aren't ready to go is incorrect. That some suit in an office 1000 miles away got cold feet doesn't make the station any less ready, and the FCC is not standing in their way unless you're the last station in a market to turn off analog.
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| Re: Oh NOEZ! I never made any assumption that the stations were not ready to go. Actually stated the opposite - that most WERE ready but did not get the FCC ok to go on time. Don;t care if it was because of management cold feet - I never made hte assumption most stations were not ready. | |
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join:2000-05-11 | Re: Oh NOEZ! You assert that the FCC prevented them from turning off the analog. That is incorrect.
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| Re: Oh NOEZ! Ok - that is a bit different than your previous posting. Not knowing any owners (but I would bet you don't either) and not knowing if the FCC has nay fines/penalties possible - it was an educated guess as to the real reason why they did not switch instead of the reason the post I replied to assigns (which was they were not ready).
If they blinked or got cold feet because of the FCC 'ruling' - then my post is still 100% correct. They could switch but the FCC prevented it - real or imagined by management - it makes no difference. | |
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| Re: Oh NOEZ! Not really. Your argument is that the FCC somehow prevented them from shutting analog off. There is no "ruling"...most had already applied for the Feb. 17 go-dark STA and they did not reapply once the deadline was extended for purely hysterical reasons. It's called February Sweeps and television programmers are even more skittish than radio programmers.
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| said by RadioDoc :You assert that the FCC prevented them from turning off the analog. That is incorrect. Then explain how 43 stations were not allowed by the FCC to shut down analog? | |
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| Government shows how useless it is once again I love how the FCC thinks it can order stations to keep broadcasting when it costs thousands of dollars a month in electricity to do so and it takes months to plan the removal of a tower.
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Sussex, NJ | If we had kept the date intact The transition would have been less confusing than it is now.
Even I'm confused about who's shutting off when, even though I work in the industry and I'm fairly tech savvy. | |
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| Re: If we had kept the date intact Well I think no matter what if you have nearly 3 years to prepare for the transition and you don't then it's your own fault. Honestly, who can't save up 50 bucks over that amount of time to buy a converter box??? I think the mandatory date should have never been changed. It's just simply stupid. I'm barely making it financially but can afford cable because I'm not a cheapskate. Get real America its 2009!!!!! | |
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| Re: If we had kept the date intact said by andrew82 :Well I think no matter what if you have nearly 3 years to prepare for the transition and you don't then it's your own fault. If you honestly think the only thing standing in the way of this transition from technically working on the date originally set was a lack of little box, then where have you been the last 3 years? | |
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| yeah yeah yeah Shit or get off the pot with this already. You keep pushing it up, it's going to be the same result. So why wait? The government will never be able to keep up with the converter program, you still have nubs who can afford cable or satellite but are too cheap to get that or a converter box, you still have the elderly who don't understand, you still do have the poor who can't afford cable, satellite, and will somehow get screwed out of getting a converter box. So get on with it already or forget about it. You're never going to achieve 100% preparedness.
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| Not Quite Correct The assumption that 36% stations have made the transition is not quite correct. I know of at least one station here on Long Island that shutdown in December 2005 but has not completed the transition. WLNY-TV channel 55 received permission to shutdown early so that Qualcomm could use the channel for their MediaFlo service. They became a DTV only station on RF channel 57. Only problem is that is not their permanent home as channels above 51 are going away. Meanwhile they are running at extremely low power until their permanent home, RF channel 47, becomes available when Spanish broadcaster WNJU-TV shuts down in June. I believe WSAH-DT in Connecticut is in a similar boat waiting for their home channel to become available (could be wrong on this one).
So any DTV only station currently transmitting on channels above 51 will be migrating again.
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| CONgress in action! I read somewhere that Nielsen estimated around 5% of households were not ready for digital. 5%!
The threshold the government was looking to force the conversion was 85% digital readiness.
Based on this, tell me why forced DTV transition was delayed? With the extension there was a provision to allow stations to pull the plug on analog. Now the FCC is telling some stations that intended to go all digital that they can't pull the analog plug until June 12.
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| Re: CONgress in action! said by michigandave :I read somewhere that Nielsen estimated around 5% of households were not ready for digital. 5%! The threshold the government was looking to force the conversion was 85% digital readiness. Based on this, tell me why forced DTV transition was delayed? With the extension there was a provision to allow stations to pull the plug on analog. Now the FCC is telling some stations that intended to go all digital that they can't pull the analog plug until June 12. This is mainly going to affect lower income families and the fact is, the rebates are not being sent out anymore because the fund is depleted. That is a good enough reason alone for delaying the roll out.
Personally, I'm glad to see the government initiate decisions to protect citizens other then corporate interests. Lets face it, in the last eight years the government has never cared about US citizens. They represented corporate entities (non living tissue) over humans. I don't want to hear about bad government. Look at what the last administration did to the FDA. They slashed their funding in half and took most of their authority away.. Basically letting the drug and food industries self regulate. And people wonder why the FDA had to beg for the peanut corp of america to voluntarily recall its products.. Because after that Bush's term, the FDA basically had their hands tied behind their backs. This may not be a necessary example of government interference but its a breath of fresh air that we have a government that actually will make a decision that is not based on some corporate interests. | |
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| Re: CONgress in action! The initial baseline for analog was 85% readiness. That was achieved and beyond but it wasn't good enough that 5% of the country is unprepared and held up everyone else.
The coupon program has been running for just over a year but the stragglers and procrastinators waited until the very last minute and jammed the system fuller than a California prison. The procrastinators have held up everyone else.
The coupon program was given up to $1.5 billion. Part of applying for a coupon was that it was the program lasted until March 31, 2009 or until the $1.5 billion was used up - or in other words while supplies last. Anyone who was ahead of the game and got their coupon(s) before the rush should be commended for not waiting until the last second.
TV stations have been running soft cutoff tests, running crawlers at the bottom of the screen, 1/2 hours PSA-infomercials about the DTV transition. Bob Barker has been in DTV transition commercials. But this wasn't good enough and all these people crammed the system at the very last minute.
TV stations for the most part have budgeted shutting off their analog signals on Feb 17, 2009. Also take into account things like electricity, tower rent and contracts for said towers that were to expire on Feb 17, 2009 leaving stations scrambling with one week to go to extend contracts. But 5% of the country has held up everyone else.
The lower income excuse is crap. If they need a digital converter then they have TV and should have seen the countless notices about the transition just like anyone else. All is took was a toll free phone call or visiting a website just like anyone else.
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| said by michigandave :I read somewhere that Nielsen estimated around 5% of households were not ready for digital. 5%! I find that number dubious at best. Ok only 15% get TV OTA so that means that 1/3 of households that are OTA didn't bother to get ready despite years and billions of $ spent on "educating" the public.
Also even going by their own numbers At the end of Dec it was 6.8 % by Feb 12th it was 5.1% so in another words 25% of those that weren't ready got ready in just 6 weeks. In wonder if that had anything to do with the Feb 17th deadline approaching? How many that would have gotten ready didn't because they knew a delay was coming? How many of those will slack off until June? Most probably. | |
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| Re: Useless said by MrMoody :None of the 3 stations here that have a weak digital signal and need to go on their permanent equipment are changing. The entire northern Wisconsin market (wooooo - what a huge market  ) is turning off their analog transmitters tonight. Good riddance.
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1 edit | Re: Digital today said by BF69 :lots of station have already shut analog today. it stated at midnght TODAY that they could shut down. yup at 11:59:59pm est.
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| Re: Digital today said by acid343211 :said by BF69 :lots of station have already shut analog today. it stated at midnght TODAY that they could shut down. yup at 11:59:59pm est. i meant they had already shut down before you even posted. | |
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| Re: Digital today said by BF69 :i meant they had already shut down before you even posted. not here because i will have to re-scan my tv Channels.
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La Habra, CA
4 edits | Define "ready." (Cliff effect anyone???) The arguments in these threads all seem to frame readiness in terms of the broadcasters' readiness to switch signals and consumers' readiness to receive them. What about the points in between? Why is no-one in this thread arguing over readiness in terms of mitigating the cliff effect?
Remember that the cliff effect is not just a distance issue but a line-of-sight issue. From what I have read it seems to me that regardless of whether or not one has a receiver, this changeover is going to be one massive crap shoot as to whether or not all the digital signals aimed at a given market will actually reach some, most or all of those in that market.
It's kind of like building a huge new nationwide digital mobile phone network, selling everyone a new handset and then telling everyone that on such and such a date the whole system goes live and everything will work perfectly. (Good luck!)
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swerve
join:2000-10-20
La Habra, CA
| I think it was wrong to take a "lets just go for it and see what happens" approach to the change over schedule instead of a gradual, methodical roll out.
It's not fair to all the people who are not that savy about these sorts of things... who may likely waste money at Radio Shack on equipment only to find out the hard way that they are no longer in signal range.
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Xsk8er
join:2001-01-02
Columbus, OH
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| shut off anyways I think broadcasters should just shut off their analog anyways... I know those stations who have equipment failing are not repairing their old analog transmitters..
TV stations should not be forced to contiunuing paying for electric etc to run these analog transmitters if they do not truely want to contiune broadcasting with them. (Most stations did not budget in this economy for running those high powered expensive transmitters past Feb)
I honestly dont think folks who are not prepaired now will be anymore prepared come June. | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: shut off anyways said by Xsk8er :I think broadcasters should just shut off their analog anyways... I know those stations who have equipment failing are not repairing their old analog transmitters.. And if those transmitters fail before June 12th those stations will be given premission to switch instead of having to repair the analog transmitters. Consdiering there are still 1100 stations broadcasting analog I'm sure quite a few will have equipment failures over the next 4 months. | |
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join:2008-10-21
Birmingham, AL | Re: shut off anyways Well just did a re-scan I'm picking up just a little more digital channels but the analog channels are still there. On CW and My Ntwk TV analog stations they're showing DTV informical. | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: shut off anyways according to the FCC these stations are the only ones in your area that are terminating analog on Feb 17th.
WBDD - CW
WABM - MyTV
WBIQ - PBS
WTTO - CW | |
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join:2008-10-21
Birmingham, AL | Re: shut off anyways Oh Ok...I must looked at the wrong list or looked at the list incorrectly. | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | So in areas with DTV has society broken down yet? Have the elderly and poor died from this lack of analog? | |
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| nolesch
join:2006-05-16
Paducah, KY
| Re: So in areas with DTV has society broken down yet? Noboma had to delay the digital transtion, so he can use his analog teleprompter to tell us, he's delaying the digital transition. This administration, 4 years? It's just gettin started. He probably wanted to maintain airwaves in as many places as possible so we could see his all mighty sign the crap sandwich in Denver showcase. | |
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todays
@sbcglobal.net
| WHAT'S UP? I put up a UHF antenna and took down my VHF antenna. Now, they delayed the switch. I am not receiving several of the channels that have not changed over as promised to UHF.
I followed the rules. Now I am missing out. The slacker who did not prepair still gets his channels.
Does this mean I have to spend money and put up a VHF antenna for the next 6 months, just to take it down again?
MAKE A PLAN AND STICK BY IT! | |
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class2227
@verizon.net
| This digital transistion will have loosers I'm just waiting for cablevision and other cable Companies to cheer on the good news. I knew about the transition for a few years now. My thought was that Cable's will be happy wait until all the local 2-68 (2,4,5,7,9,11,13,21 etc) channels will be per channel cost. Just like every cable channel right now. I already along with everyone in my Residents received a cablevisions letter of offers. With threats of cutoffs just working to the advantage. I know this is not financially possible for many many reasons(outside of the rate going up for the current subscribers and other burdens. But would be cool if a law was signed (imaginary speaking) where all Cable company's were forced to provide basic TV. That was for Antenna, on their boxes for free at own expenses as Punishment. But of course in real world that is not even possible. Just to stick it to them. Want Premium TV? pay for it want what you got on Antenna and don't want or can afford new TV? Just get your cable box free! That would have really rained on the parade which is about to happen. But Cable's, Satellite etc. Just one big Cake ready to happen. Because no other way really Exists. Add to that the wonderful additional waste all at once onto this Planet. Dumping all the Radioactive cathode Raye tubes. Marvelous pravo! This is wonderful for the wildlife, in the long run it will come back to stink us all. Hehe, but add to it the Government tries to pay for some of the boxes not enough probably to cover the nation. Wasted all Money, dunno what to say but I think their had to be a better way. That someone with a head of not air could have thought up and propagate it. I wouldn't know as I'm not the brightest but this certainly was not a way to go. Their will be more losers than winners in this DTV thing. Mostly Poor, wildlife etc will loose. It is bad enough so much garbage that is essential to lives is being thrown out. But this will be one giant landfill on products that might still be working. Again Pravo! | |
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36% Of Stations Will Be All Digital Today
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FCC data PDF missing