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oliphant5
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translate
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Albertville, MN
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| AOL=Bad I agree... anyone that goes against the industry with proprietary crap should go down. The whole keyword thing is such a joke. nfl.com, keyword nfl! wow that's soooo helpful. anyway, aol sucks. maybe the little yellow guy will have a wipeout with his chick on the motorcycle...
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| Re: Nelson said by Omega  :
I hope AOL goes down. I hate the way their whole program works.
Nope there are many folks who really aren't much interested in most of the web. For them, AOL is a perfectly viable alternative. I would not care for it, but many others do. If they revamp their price structure and get the broadband business going, they'll do well.
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Pataskala, OH | Re: Nelson When will they learn....(shakes head in dissappointment at people this stupid)  | |
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join:2003-08-28
Frederick, MD
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Will Work For Bandwidth
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| Gee What a Shame Do you think we really care about AOL? I know I sure don't
I think what they charge is way too much for a dial up access account. I do pay more for my ISP service but then I am also on broadband. I think that people should not pay more than 10 bucks a month for a dial up access.
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Denver, CO
| Re: Gee What a Shame yep 10- is fair. Ironcially, that is about the going rate for Compuserve and Wal Mart, AOL's 'other" brands, same content, same look and feel.
I switched LONG ago from AOL, and am with Comcast now. When I did, dial up was over 20- a month (debited from my checking which they charged extra for mind ya) and Comcast (AT&T at the time) was charging me about 30-. Now what is the smart decision there I wonder LOL As a general rule of thumb, if you don't use AOL's chatrooms, you really do not need AOL. We all seee their adds saying a "safer internet and blah blah blah" well as long as it's a pc with windows, it's never really safe. People say well the email is easy and this and that, well ya so it Yahoo email. Save yer cash folks, get away from bad customer support who try incredibly hard not to let you cancel yer account! Last but not least, I would say, get a real ISP, that doesn't cost an arm and a leg where their stoopid built in browser doesn't make websites look like crap and doesn't need a gazillion recorces to run! | |
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Corona, CA | Re: Give up the ghost AOL! Or talking about turnover...how many subscribers they have had and lost over the last decade. | |
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| Re: Give up the ghost AOL! said by kapil :
Geeez....why so sour oliphant? DSLR not republican enough for ya' ? 
No...that's a quote from "Scott" to Dr. Evil in Austin Powers after Dr. Evil says why as for a billion, when you could as for....a MILLION.
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Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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| Re: Give up the ghost AOL! said by oliphant5 :
No...that's a quote from "Scott" to Dr. Evil in Austin Powers after Dr. Evil says why as for a billion, when you could as for....a MILLION.
Cough...Ripoff...Cough.
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Corona, CA | Re: Give up the ghost AOL! LOL...that's great! ^_^
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The Notes Are Free
join:2003-10-28
Racine, WI
| Ho hum Aol does have a place, narrowbandly, for those users who lack the savvy to choose their own content and the technical know how to secure their machines. however their price point is wayy too high. Their arrogance is appalling, but not unheard of in the business world. They need to streamline, offer a 10.00 permonth fee and tweak their broadband options at about what they charge for dialup.
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| Re: Ho hum The real quandary for AOL is that once their users become net savvy they will most likely look for something else (cheaper narrowband or faster broadband). In the end, AOL will be stuck with an ever diminishing consumer niche: users who like AOL content, and/or users who are not too net savvy. | |
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Bachatero y Que?
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Brooklyn, NY
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| heres a tip 1) lose your freaking bloated piece of poop software.
2) just give the users the pipe to the internet, leave everything thing else (browsers, firewall) to the user
3.) offer higher speeds, and do no cap the speeds.
4.) lower your price
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Sacramento, CA
| Re: heres a tip said by Julio :
1) lose your freaking bloated piece of poop software.
2) just give the users the pipe to the internet, leave everything thing else (browsers, firewall) to the user
3.) offer higher speeds, and do no cap the speeds.
4.) lower your price
Even if AOL did all that, I would try to stay as far away from them as possible. Well, maybe I would give them a shot if they were the last ISP on earth.
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join:2002-01-02
Needham, MA
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According to this CNET article, the company has added 340,000 new subscribers in the third quarter, but has lost hundreds of millions - and things aren't looking better anytime soon.
I think we have a mis-print here... if AOL had lost "hundreds of millions" they wouldn't be in business anymore! :P
I think AOL is a dinosaur that has lived too long. Paying more than $10/month for dial-up is rediculous. Everything you get from AOL you can get for free elsewhere (although most of it is just spam anyway). I'm suprised they have lasted this long. | |
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join:2000-11-06
Coshocton, OH
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| I tried aol At the begining of the year i decided to try it cause i was low on money and 1000 hours for 45 days ended up being 8 months of service for $28.80. I tried to cancel 3 times then in august we got dsl our area and I told them to cancel and they tried telling me that i shouldn't switch cause dsl is problematic and i wouldn't like it I'm glad i switched I've had a few problems but i'm overall happy with dsl i love being able to click on a web page and it almost instantly show up or down load a program or mp3 in a few seconds instead of hours.
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Maineville, OH | Re: I tried aol AOL billed me for four months after I cancelled my account. And they were directly removing the cash from my checking account. I had several checks bounce as a result. They really are just scam artists.
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Palos Hills, IL
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| Re: I tried aol My fiancee had that problem when I moved in with here. I switched everything over to DSL and she called to disconnect the AOL. Well, she spent 30 minutes on the phone trying to do it and finally it was done, or so we thought. Few days later, I decide to make sure it's disconnected, it's not. I can still log onto it. She calls again. "No you don't have an account with us, you have one with compuserve." We never asked to be switched to compuserve. "Well, you need to call them to get it disconnected, but you are on a free trial." Call compuserve and got it shut off. Month later wow, why is there only $3 in the checking account?? There should be about $90. Oh, look at that not only has AOL not been shut off, but we've been billed 3 times in one month!!! Call AOL. Well, we have 2 accounts with them and one that's been double billed. Takes an hour to get it disconnected all the while the tech keeps offering us free stuff and yada yada yada. Tells us about aol for broadband and all that. "No thanks, we don't want your wretched service anymore." He says it's all disconnected. Sure it is, next month same exact story, except this time the account overdrew. Go to the bank, block AOL from taking $$ from the account, shred the debit card and get a new one, and file a complaint with the bank. End result, bank got all the money back and refunded the overdraft fee and AOL is gone forever!!!! | |
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Go Tribe
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Farmington, MI |  Re: I tried aol
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No Fear
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New Jersey | thats why i always use credit, i dont trust direct debit, unless its like a mortgage.
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New Jersey | remenber EXIT fees Aol tried to charge my dad an exit fee a yr ago, he called visa and had it removed. You got "robbed"
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World Champs. Babe Who?
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join:2002-08-14
Methuen, MA
| You don't say? You mean people don't want to pay $23.90-$28.90 for dialup service or better yet pay what an arm & a lef for their "broadband" service?
That is weird I thought people liking selling their souls just to get broadband.
No thanks I'll stick to my DSL for $29.95!
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That's Mr. Smith To You.
join:2003-03-12
Boulder, CO
| Another AOL Article... From the article...
"narrowband is going to be around forever"
Ignorance is bliss.
I think narrowband will probably be around for another 10 years before it becomes extinct. But, how many years will it take AOL to plummet to the bottom? I still find it hilarious everytime I see someone with an @aol.com email address. | |
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Seattle, WA
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| aol sucks I don't like aol. I think they charge waaayy to much. In my opinion i think AOL is more for the beginner internet user. There is a dial-up company that is available in the seattle area for FREE! and i get faster speeds connecting to them that i did when we used to have AOL.
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join:2002-12-08
Collinsville, IL
| True, it does suck
But for little girls and old folks interested in minimal usage, it's..adequate.
They really should remake their software so it's not such a rectal pain to have installed on a person's machine. | |
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join:2003-10-30
Oakland, CA
| Lessons Learned And to think that some people haven't been paying attention or listening. SBC Yahoo is trying to emulate the AOL experience. With all the mass Exodus from the media portal/ISP, you'd think SBC Yahoo would not try to induct its new subscribers with the bugged and resource hogging installation software. Yes you can connect without the "Broad Jump" software, but it is not advertised. | |
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Kindly Shut Your Noise Hole.
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Yucaipa, CA
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| Re: Lessons Learned said by AnyOlTech :
And to think that some people haven't been paying attention or listening. SBC Yahoo is trying to emulate the AOL experience. With all the mass Exodus from the media portal/ISP, you'd think SBC Yahoo would not try to induct its new subscribers with the bugged and resource hogging installation software. Yes you can connect without the "Broad Jump" software, but it is not advertised.
You're right there. All your post is spot-on. I use SBC Yahoo, but couldn't care less about the content. I use the E-mail, but I ditched Broadjump a long time ago. SBC Yahoo is just a connection to the internet for me and my home network.
I sometimes wonder how many SBC Yahoo users are refugees from AOL/dial-up? I don't think I'm unique in that I came to DSL because I wanted a faster connection, and didn't want all the BS content that AOL gave. SBC Yahoo basically takes up where AOL leaves off, but with better customer service and less content-driven connectivity, and a more "flexible" internet experience. Kind of like when a bird learns to fly, if you catch me.
I think SBC would be good if they gave instructions on how to connect without the Broadjump... or if they gave a leaner version of it, with a simple PPPoE instead of all the "Connection Manager" bloatware and spyware they give out. But then Yahoo doesn't know what ads to give you...
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join:2001-07-26
Mclean, VA
| We're the perfect AOL customer Everyone in my house uses Cox HSI except for my mom, who uses AOL over the Cox HSI connection. Ironically, she not bad with computers at all. She recently completed an excel class and is very good at it (how many typical AOL users can say that?) yet she refuses to give it up. AOL's pretty interface gives her confidence to click around a bit before asking for help, and 9 times out of 10 she solves her own problems.
I still don't understand why AOL doesn't mold their strategy around what they're best at: Making things pretty! Forget content... prices... whatever. My mom doesn't care what it costs or what's on it. An easy, pretty way to upload digital camera pictures to friends though? Sign her up.
She's not leaving any time soon, either. AOL's interface has made her a customer for life. Her friends are the same way. This is their only hope for the future.
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Kindly Shut Your Noise Hole.
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Yucaipa, CA
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| Re: Morons said by boogi man :
It's amazing to me the amount of ignorance that is displayed by former users of AOL. In life what i have found to be amazingly recurrent it was what my mom told me when i was young READ EVERYTHING and if you don't like what you're reading then don't agree to it. For those of you who consider yourselves to be "tech/web savvy" if you can't manage to surf through a proxy connection what kind of net junkie are you exactly? not much of one that's for sure. The funniest part of all of you guys' ignorance is that the membership fees are for a connection to their network not the internet itself there is a proxied connection as a benefit but that's not primarily what you are paying for. Some of the content found on AOL can be found online for free but not all of it most of the content comes from premium pay-type services that I'm sure a person could probably game the "free trial" for those serv if even offered outside of AOL which somethings aren't. But hey what do I know...
Speaking for myself, when I started with AOL, I DID read everything.
Over time, I grew weary of AOL's limitations. Being on their network was one thing, but I wanted more from my internet connection. Yes, I know they are a content provider and the irony is not lost on me about how they graciously offer me a connection to the internet.
Their increasing use of popups and more and more lost connections coupled with the price versus "other" connectivity options made me reevaluate my needs.
Many of the posters have given what I consider to be valid reasons for saying AOL is not a good ISP/Content Provider: billing, qualty of service, incessant, intrusive popups, and finally, customer service issues.
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KF6HCD
Kindly Shut Your Noise Hole.
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| An example of a former user
When we got DSL he wanted to keep AOL, so I set his machine up to access their network via TCP/IP, with "Bring your own access". At first he was impressed by the speed of the connect(who wouldn't Be?).
Over time, as he learned more about surfing, he came to realize he did not need AOL anymore. I spent a lot of time explaining "new" concepts to him: E-mail, internet explorer, loging on, IM, anti-virus, firewalls, etc. When he became adept at "doing his own thing", he did not want AOL any more. He learned that the AOL "content" was "beneath" his new-found skill level of surfing and even his own computer usage.
"I don't need to pay AOL to bring me this content," he said one day. He got on the phone with AOL (I got a kick out of what he said to the rep on the phone) and told them he was cancelling, no he didn't want to reconsider; he didn't need them any more. Then he said, "If you guys remove ANY more money from my account, even by mistake, I WILL sue. I know how you guys operate, and I will not be ripped off!" (I should add that I advised him this might be one of their many money making tricks)
AOL crept quietly away, and we have not heard from them since, with the exception of the constant stream of letters and setup disks in those shiny tins(crap, each and every one of them, IMO), but they have not drawn ANY more money from his account.
I learned this a long time ago: I can do better for myself in terms of internet connectivity; I can make better decisions about how my computer is configured and how to keep it lean. When my father in law learned this, he became a more savvy surfer.
I think that as people become more knowledgeable, there is a percentage who will naturally move away from AOL, and explore their own niche of the internet without the AOL network to keep them safe and secure. They realize that AOL is beneath their level, and move away when they realize they don't "Need" AOL any more. The is probably a percentage of people who are fine with that knowledge, but for whatever reason, stay with AOL. Personally, I got bored looking at the same interface.
AOL, IMO, is for computer and internet noobs who don't know any better. As long as there are noobs, the marketing department at AOL will have job security.
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join:2003-04-17
Atlanta, GA
| Sneaky AOL Tactics My mother called me Saturday complaining about AOL. They signed her up for Broadband without her permission. Our best guess is she accidently clicked something in those evil pop ups that AOL uses before one can actually get online. Now, they are debiting her checking account directly for Broadband. If AOL doesn't fix it, she says she is going to the bank the close her account so AOL can never touch her again.
I have been trying to get her to give up AOL for two years and this may be what pushes her over the edge. Since she lives in Buffalo, NY, our plan is to have her switch to Verizon DSL over Christmas when I can be there to supervise the installion. Any alternative suggestions are appreciated, but trust me, AOL Broadband was never considered an option. | |
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Kindly Shut Your Noise Hole.
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join:2003-01-31
Yucaipa, CA
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| Re: Sneaky AOL Tactics said by Jenna9654 :
My mother called me Saturday complaining about AOL. They signed her up for Broadband without her permission. Our best guess is she accidently clicked something in those evil pop ups that AOL uses before one can actually get online. Now, they are debiting her checking account directly for Broadband. If AOL doesn't fix it, she says she is going to the bank the close her account so AOL can never touch her again.
I have been trying to get her to give up AOL for two years and this may be what pushes her over the edge. Since she lives in Buffalo, NY, our plan is to have her switch to Verizon DSL over Christmas when I can be there to supervise the installion. Any alternative suggestions are appreciated, but trust me, AOL Broadband was never considered an option.
Those "Evil Popups" are one of the reasons I left AOL.
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Aurora, IL
| Re: Sneaky AOL Tactics Not to be rude or anything, but it was pretty stupid to put up with those AOL ad popups in the first place considering they can be totally turned off in the marketing prefs.
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Kindly Shut Your Noise Hole.
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| Re: Sneaky AOL Tactics said by Matt 2618 :
Not to be rude or anything, but it was pretty stupid to put up with those AOL ad popups in the first place considering they can be totally turned off in the marketing prefs.
I could never understand why AOL users complain about those for years on end, and the solution is right there in front of them.
Oh... yeah. Guess I forgot about that. I was a noob then, but not now. I still didn't like getting bumped off all the time; thanks for the refresher.
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join:2003-09-12
Brunswick, OH
| AOL & Adelphia We signed up for Adelphia Powerlink cable in August. Their E-mail system is horrible beyond belief. I had to swallow my pride and call to get AOL back just so I could have decent E-mail capability. Yes, AOL is really slow, but they bailed me out on the E-mails. Am looking to cancel Adelphia as soon as I can find a good dsl. Of course I will cancel AOL as well. | |
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join:2003-04-19
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Shqipe
join:2001-03-15
Localhost ;) | Dial up service. wow!! I never knew that people still care about 56k dial up internet service. I guess talking about it is wasting of time and forget aOL | |
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For instance, I went to a customers house that said his aol 9.0 was moving slower than dial up. Well when I tried to open 9.0, it took 15 minutes just to get to the login screen, software issue??? Yeah i think so! I then went to his 8.0plus the software came right up and i was online at blazing broadband speeds. But who did AOHell blame???? Us the cable provider!!!! AOL SUCKS AND IS THE LAMEST ISP IN THE WORLD!
Thanks for this thread on how AOL can mess up but never seems to be held for there actions. Hense is why AOL is no longer its own company, and is now a subsiderary of Time Warner Inc. LMAO they are equal to HBO now in the Time Warner Family. Thats pretty sad.
WAY TO GO STEVE CASE! you moron!
By no means is my post to reflect anything but my OPINION and Broadbands Reports not responsible for anything i have said.
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