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$19.95 Cable Broadband?
Comcast goes fishing for DSL subscribers
(old news - 09:24AM Friday Nov 07 2003)
tags: prices · cable
Comcast attempts to lure DSL customers in California, Illinois and Maryland by offering $20 a month broadband for a year. According to this post over at FatWallet.com and discussed by users in our Comcast forum, Comcast is apparently offering a $19.95 a month (plus modem rental fee) deal only to existing DSL customers in the three state territory. This comes after Comcast executives hinted the days of discount incentives were over, and they saw no need to lower prices in order to compete with the recent DSL price-plunge. Though outside the listed areas, one user in our forums lives in Indiana and claims he was able to obtain the deal.

The restrictions are reprinted below:

"This offer is only available in California, Illinois and Maryland. Speed comparisons are for downloads only and are compared to 768Kbps DSL and/or 56K dial-up. Upstream speed limited to 256Kbps. Many factors affect speed. Actual speeds vary and are not guaranteed. Offer available to new residential customers who are currently subscribers of a DSL internet service provider, who are also in Comcast Cable wired and serviceable areas only. Customer must honor existing contract obligations.

Customers must present a current DSL internet service provider bill at the time of Comcast High-Speed Internet installation. New Comcast High-Speed Internet customers only. Receive first 12 months of service for $19.95/month after service activation. After promotional period, regular monthly service and equipment charges apply. Rates vary for non Comcast Cable subscribers. Cable modem and other equipment required and not included. Not combinable with other offers.

Installation options and prices vary by service area. Free professional installation limited to connection of one existing unused data outlet to a cable modem. Ethernet device may be required for service at an additional fee. Custom installation charges are additional. Prices do not include applicable taxes or franchise fees. Offer expires 11/30/03. Subject to Comcast Online Subscriber Agreement.

Limited 30-day money back guarantee covers the following: Comcast's standard installation charges, one month Comcast High-Speed Internet service and modem rental or purchase fees actually paid when service is cancelled within 30 days. All equipment provided by Comcast must be returned in its original condition less reasonable wear and tear. Limited guarantee limited to reimbursement of charges actually paid. Call Comcast for details and restrictions."


Can we assume SBC's recent price reductions are actually having an impact?

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Nightfall
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Reminds me of the dish buy back program.

It is just a way for them to get new subscribers. Mind you, it is a good tactic. Cut the price down to $20 for a year for current DSL subscribers and see how many go for it. I feel this is a win/win situation if Comcast can handle the extra subscriber load in those areas.
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user3657

join:2000-04-27
Trenton, NJ

Re: Reminds me of the dish buy back program.

hey dont worry...cablevision customers know what this will turn out to be....we started at 19.99...then 29.99 then 35.99...then 40.00.......now the damn shit is 45 god damn rate hikers!!!!!!!!!

AthlGrond
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join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
·Comcast

Re: Reminds me of the dish buy back program.

said by user3657 See Profile:
hey dont worry...cablevision customers know what this will turn out to be....we started at 19.99...then 29.99 then 35.99...then 40.00.......now the damn shit is 45 god damn rate hikers!!!!!!!!!

Don't worry, it will go from $20 to $43 all in one shot.

Yowzaaah
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DamnFlat, OH
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Not for stand alone?

"Rates vary for non Comcast Cable subscribers."

So does this mean it only applies as part of a "bundle"?
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Nightfall
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Grand Rapids, MI

Re: Not for stand alone?

I would assume so. If you aren't a cable subscriber after the 12 month period, then you will probably get charged $58 a month.
2farfromCO7

join:2000-10-14
Farmington, MI

Re: Not for stand alone?

I think you have to subscribe to cable to get the $19.95 price. If everybody could get this, DBS and DSL would be dead, but they can't(everybody $19.95 cable modem) and they aren't(DBS DSL dead).

Kibbles
Premium
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Mission Viejo, CA
If Cable had the same Gaming Pings and Customer Support as my ADSL line does...then I would switch....but for $20.00 a month I doubt it.

KoolMoe
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Annapolis, MD
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Re: Not for stand alone?

Checkout the forums for your area and see if others who have it can give you an idea...

I have DSL through SE/Covad. The ability to run servers and no bandwidth restrictions are worth the extra money I pay.
If I could afford it, I would jump on this deal just to have two broadband connections for a year. That would be...cool, and a backup connection would be nice (or put the wife/kids on one and myself on the other
But money is tight so can't take advantage of the deal. Either way, not leaving my DSL connection behind.
KM
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Zorglub

join:2000-11-18
Fremont, CA

Re: Not for stand alone?

Don't forget that you're not allowed to have a router to connect multiple PCs to your cable modem...

Screw Comcast, I'm sticking with SBC.

Anyway, what do you do after a year? Pay $58, I just don't see it happening...

Nightfall
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Re: Not for stand alone?

said by Zorglub See Profile:
Don't forget that you're not allowed to have a router to connect multiple PCs to your cable modem...

Screw Comcast, I'm sticking with SBC.

Anyway, what do you do after a year? Pay $58, I just don't see it happening...

With most broadband providers, they don't like users having routers for a variety of reasons. It isn't that they don't allow them, but they just don't like supporting them. I see that kind of attitude through most internet providers. With so many different routers out there, it is something that adds a big unknown in troubleshooting a problem.

I have had a router and been on Comcast since they came into my area over 5 years ago. I know how to support my network, and I let Comcast support theirs. It is a win-win situation if the user is educated enough to support the router.

Let me go one more step here. I don't know of a single broadband provider today that will support a router. Sure, some may allow them, but they won't support them in times of trouble. Heck, even our T1 providers where I work at won't support my Cisco router. That is my responsibility.

Don't let that one fact turn you away from this deal though. It is $20 a month for a year. Quite a nice price if you ask me.
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toolkit

join:2001-01-16
Crystal Lake, IL

Re: Not for stand alone?

Actually, SBC will support your router if you get the one they supply.

The spirit of your post is accurate. But since you said "I don't know of a single broadband provider today..." I wanted to point out that SBC does.

AthlGrond
Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
·Comcast

Re: Not for stand alone?

said by toolkit See Profile:
Actually, SBC will support your router if you get the one they supply.

The spirit of your post is accurate. But since you said "I don't know of a single broadband provider today..." I wanted to point out that SBC does.
Ironically so does Comcast. If you get the home networking package you get a cable modem+router combo device. (You have to use their cable modem+router combo device to get the package.)
Zorglub

join:2000-11-18
Fremont, CA

I was on @Home/ATTBI/Comcast for about 2 years until they tried to rip me off $58/month for their service, and I had a router the whole time also.

What I'm talking about is that according to the Comcast TOS, you're not allowed to have a router behind your cable modem. It has nothing to do with supporting your network gear, because everybody knows that they won't support it, and everything to do with Comcast trying to sell you additionals IPs for your other PCs/Xbox. Of course, you'll get additional IPs but no additional bandwidth.

I don't agree with these policies and I gladly took my broadband $ to SBC. Now $20 a month is a good deal... until it becomes $58. BTW, in my area, my measured upstream was usually between 120 and 160, and sometimes would dip to 90-100. With SBC, I get a rocksolid 227kbps upstream all the time.

Comcast can keep their crappy service and TOS. Once SBC and the others finally deploy more RTs, Comcast will have a hard time hanging on to their current pricing and policies. That's for sure.

TheHelpful1
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Upper Marlboro, MD

said by Nightfall See Profile:

With most broadband providers, they don't like users having routers for a variety of reasons. It isn't that they don't allow them, but they just don't like supporting them. I see that kind of attitude through most internet providers. With so many different routers out there, it is something that adds a big unknown in troubleshooting a problem.

I would jump on this offer in a heartbeat because comcast is availble in my AREA, but sadly my SPECIFIC address was deemed a "Non-serviceable address". They tell me this after about 3-5 months of waiting to hear back from them.

I currently have Elink DSL (784/128) and about 6 computers hooked into it through my nexland pro-turbo switch. This switch lets me jack in two broadband modems at the same time, so hooking up a cable modem would be a fun thing to try. Partitioning the bandwidth to one barebones computer in the DMZ for server hosting on the cable line while leaving my dsl line free to browse and such would be some real fun, but dirty comcast doesn't want to hook the cable line up to my house (There isn't and existing wire from the street to me as of current ...)

The thing about "no routers allowed" is a bit confusing though. I know Elink says they don't care, but they also won't give tech support for network issues on MY end, which is fine by me. A friend of mine who has comcast hides his router whenever he needs comcast to tweak something because they apparently don't want people to use them. Whether this is written in the contract by comcast, i don't know.
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dvd536
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said by Yowzaaah See Profile:
"Rates vary for non Comcast Cable subscribers."
Translation: it wont be $20/mo. it'll be $35/mo for those paying the 'no video penalty'
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Nightfall
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Re: Not for stand alone?

said by dvd536 See Profile:
said by Yowzaaah See Profile:
"Rates vary for non Comcast Cable subscribers."
Translation: it wont be $20/mo. it'll be $35/mo for those paying the 'no video penalty'

Correction. I just had a friend call Comcast on this offer and they confirmed $20 for the first year if you have cable TV or not. After that, then the price goes up to the correct level on if you have cable TV or not. Did you post an actual account of info or were you being sarcastic?
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JTRockville
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Re: Not for stand alone?

said by Jim Hu, c|net news.com
Cable joins broadband price war
Nov 12:

To qualify, customers have to prove they are DSL customers. But they do not need to pay for Comcast’s basic cable video offering, meaning people can pay just $19.95 a month for a year’s worth of service, on top of one-time installation fees and $3 a month to lease a modem. Comcast promoted the deal through an e-mail campaign.
A recent news article confirms it too, Nightfall See Profile.

outspoken72
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Questions

Would you like SPAM with that?
What are the speeds?
Contract?
Free harware?
Comcast customers only?
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joe276

@uic.edu

Re: Questions

1500/256
no contract. cancel anytime.
modem rental costs an extra 5 bucks a month.
only for current dsl customers.

good price for the speed but what about excessive use? I'll just stick with my sbc dsl for now.

outspoken72
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Re: Questions

said by joe276:
1500/256
no contract. cancel anytime.
modem rental costs an extra 5 bucks a month.
only for current dsl customers.

good price for the speed but what about excessive use? I'll just stick with my sbc dsl for now.

Road Runner wouldn't allow me to move my "valued" customer pricing from my old house to my new residence...so I went to SBC...I would stick with what is tried and true...Comcast in this area (Kansas City) is very shaky.
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TheHelpful1
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said by joe276:
good price for the speed but what about excessive use? I'll just stick with my sbc dsl for now.

Excessive use? You mean like the invisible/unstated/judged-by-average-usage-in-the-area/ download limits?
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Omega
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said by outspoken72 See Profile:
Would you like SPAM with that?
What are the speeds?
Contract?
Free harware?
Comcast customers only?

comast=caps.

caps=no cable for me.

I will stick with DSL.
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CrazyJr

join:2003-02-27
Oakland, CA

Re: Questions

[QUOTE= Omega See Profilecomast=caps.

caps=no cable for me.

I will stick with DSL.
[/QUOTE]

I concur. As I have read in this forums about Comcast and their caps, I'll just stick my PacBell DSL. Right now they set me up with 1.5 down and 256K up for $39.95. I run Win2K so the PC stays on 24/7 with streaming music from Shoutcast. Now, would Comcast allow that? Also, the inability to run a network at home does not sit well with me.
jimraelee

join:2003-03-19
Gresham, OR

comcast fishing

yea well this seems like the old AOL thing years ago.. I remember when aol didnt have unlimited.... BAMM they went unlimited for $19.95 pr month and talk about slow down on there internet

its also nice to see them hand out $20 for yr of service and the rest of us get it in the but $45pr month
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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Re: comcast fishing

Welcome to the real world. Those of us that are loyal to them get screwed in the long run. Instead of offering this "special" for a year, why not lower prices all around ???

I know what your thinking "Ahhh your fool then they don't make any money".... And yet we see deals like this then jack up the prices to a highly inflated value. Yet they get away with it.

**sigh** poor comcast subscribers we are raped while comcast looks for new victims... i mean customers.
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DonLibes
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Re: comcast fishing

said by BosstonesOwn See Profile:
Welcome to the real world. Those of us that are loyal to them get screwed in the long run. Instead of offering this "special" for a year, why not lower prices all around ???
Loyalty? What drugs are you on?

Staying with a provider doesn't mean you are loyal to them. It means you think they're the most appropriate provider for you, that's all. If another provider has better rates and quality than your current provider, you should change providers. To not change isn't loyalty, it's stupidity.

As for me, the reason I stay with Comcast is not loyalty but lack of competition. They can basically charge me anything they want and I'll pay it. The guy on the other side of my city may be getting the $20/mo deal but that's only because my local telco offers him DSL and Comcast is trying to win new business, not because Comcast is overtly trying to screw their existing customers.
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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the people that are loyal to em get every service they can from them. because they ain't that bad price wise.

I get cable basics and telephony from them as well as net and to show for it i get the same bill for net phone and cable as the guy who buys just one service. I like comcasts services because they are a bit better then verizon in this area.
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jimraelee

join:2003-03-19
Gresham, OR

Loyality.. no ive none of that... i use to jump from dialup accnt to dialup accnt for better price.. But Ive 2 choices... 1) dialup at $10pr month 56k yipeeeee or 2) cable broadband $45 pr month... I do have to say my cable service has been excellent... speed ... uptime... yada yada yada... I saw the verizon person working on local station... and asked what hes doing.. he said installing hardware for DSL so wonder if comcast will do anything when that is available???

BK3

join:2001-04-10
Geneva, IL
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I'm in Illinois .....

and I currently have Covad DSL. I currently pay $49.95/mo for 1500/128. The covad service has been excellent, with no down time more than an hour.

I called Comcast on Wednesday, and was quoted $19.95 for the first 6 mos, $29.95 for the next 3 mos, then $49.95 thereafter for 1500 / 256. In the Comcast forum, my area is to be upgraded to 3000/256 next month, at the same time that my DSL contract expires.

If I can get the $19.95/mo. for a year, then that is VERY tempting. I don't run any servers or VPNs, so that's not an issue for me. The only thing I worry about is connection quality. My Covad connection has been rock solid, will the Comcast connection be as good? Since they only started offering HSI in my area a couple of weeks ago, I have no data on which to base an opinion.
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kapil
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Re: I'm in Illinois .....

IMHO, I wouldn't leave Covad for Comcast. Maybe Covad for speakeasy ...or even Covad to SBC for the price...but not Comcast.
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TheMadSwede
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Re: I'm in Illinois .....

said by kapil See Profile:
IMHO, I wouldn't leave Covad for Comcast. Maybe Covad for speakeasy ...or even Covad to SBC for the price...but not Comcast.

Doesn't Speakeasy uses Covad DSL?
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kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

Re: I'm in Illinois .....

Mostly, Yes. But speakeasy also uses other LECs where Covad doesn't have coverage.

But the reason for my initial post...I think Speakeasy is a much better "ISP" than Covad....Covad is a telco first and an ISP out of necessity.
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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said by BK3 See Profile:
and I currently have Covad DSL. I currently pay $49.95/mo for 1500/128. The covad service has been excellent, with no down time more than an hour.

I called Comcast on Wednesday, and was quoted $19.95 for the first 6 mos, $29.95 for the next 3 mos, then $49.95 thereafter for 1500 / 256. In the Comcast forum, my area is to be upgraded to 3000/256 next month, at the same time that my DSL contract expires.

If I can get the $19.95/mo. for a year, then that is VERY tempting. I don't run any servers or VPNs, so that's not an issue for me. The only thing I worry about is connection quality. My Covad connection has been rock solid, will the Comcast connection be as good? Since they only started offering HSI in my area a couple of weeks ago, I have no data on which to base an opinion.

Do some reading about your area in the comcast forums. By the way did you vote on that muni broadband project ???
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BK3

join:2001-04-10
Geneva, IL
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Re: I'm in Illinois .....

said by BosstonesOwn See Profile:
By the way did you vote on that muni broadband project ???

I sure did, and I know some of the people involved in it. See my posts at »www.tricitybroadband.com

Since Comcast has only offered HSI for a few weeks in my area (I am about 40 miles west of Chicago) there is no hard data in my immediate area yet. The posts about Chicago don't fully apply to me, since I'm out of a different office. They can give some insight, but nothing really to base an informed opinion on. I have until the end of the month to do research, and I will use that time wisely.
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TheMadSwede
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Re: I'm in Illinois .....

said by BK3 See Profile:
said by BosstonesOwn See Profile:
By the way did you vote on that muni broadband project ???

I sure did, and I know some of the people involved in it. See my posts at »www.tricitybroadband.com

Since Comcast has only offered HSI for a few weeks in my area (I am about 40 miles west of Chicago) there is no hard data in my immediate area yet. The posts about Chicago don't fully apply to me, since I'm out of a different office. They can give some insight, but nothing really to base an informed opinion on. I have until the end of the month to do research, and I will use that time wisely.

My experience of being in a new office has been that it's not overloaded yet, so it's great. Of course, 10 other folks will tell you 10 other things!

My service has been fabulous until the storm earlier this week. Then the connex was unreliable for about 8 hours.
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slashman
Don't do it . ..
Premium
join:2003-10-01
Batavia, IL

Hi BK3,

I am in Batavia and have had comcast since January and the service has been good. Speeds have been consistent and I have not experienced any downtime except when my linksys wireless router decides to act up

hbarbrey
T6Broadband

join:2000-03-19
Kirkland, IL

Hello:
I am in Geneva too.
I have ameritech DSL 1500/128 package at 26.95 per month.
I don't have Comcast I have free TV from an antenna on my
roof. Got rid of Comcast over a year ago.

Howard
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Andy8
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::1

Comcast goes fishing for DSL subscribers

Remember, every fish caught, eventually dies in the boat.

As a former victim of Comcast, they would have to guarantee a lot more to me than just a cheaper rate.
How about better service instead?

I think I am going to have nightmares for days just remembering about my horror stories when I was connected to them and had a paper weight for a modem every other day.
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joe276

@uic.edu

Re: Comcast goes fishing for DSL subscribers

Same thing happened to my friend. Had to change his modem 3 times. The modem he has now doesn't an have an on/off switch. He is connected to the net whenever his comp is on.
TACSPEED
Premium
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Tacoma, WA
·Advanced Stream


Re: Comcast goes fishing for DSL subscribers

quote:
The modem he has now doesn't an have an on/off switch.
Hint: Use a cheap power strip with an off/on switch.

quote:
He is connected to the net whenever his comp is on.
I thought that was one of the selling points for broadband, an always on connection.
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lesopp

join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL

Between the lines

Does this mean they have lied to everyone about what it costs them to provide their internet service?

Does it show they previously sold their internet service at more than a 100 percent markup?

Will the RBOC DSL providers lower their price, in effect selling at a loss if their previous cost claims are true?

CanOpener4

join:2003-06-23
Brooklyn, NY

Re: Between the lines

said by lesopp See Profile:
Will the RBOC DSL providers lower their price, in effect selling at a loss if their previous cost claims are true?
Correct me if I'm wrong but, isn't it illegal to sell at a loss? Right now I cannot remember the particular law that governs this pratice. Regardless, it is very anti-competive behavior (selling at a loss).
DonLibes
Premium,ExMod 2001
join:2003-01-19

Re: Between the lines

said by CanOpener4 See Profile:
Correct me if I'm wrong but, isn't it illegal to sell at a loss? Right now I cannot remember the particular law that governs this pratice. Regardless, it is very anti-competive behavior (selling at a loss).
Depends. It is not necessarily illegal to sell at a loss but it can be for monopolies to do so in order kill competition.

Whether Comcast is a monopoly or de facto monopoly is always a fun question to debate but a more significant one is whether they're taking a loss at $20. I think you'd be very hard pressed to prove that they're selling it at a loss at that price. Hence the question of whether they're in violation of any laws is a moot point.

J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI

Re: Between the lines

Back in December of 2001, while referring to what Comcast was paying @Home per subscriber for internet service, a Comcast executive indicated that he was confident that Comcast could provide the service for less than $10 per month. One would likely have to dig deep into the bowels of Comcast to determine if they were successful.
hotdogjones

join:2003-09-11
Bowie, MD

Won't work for me.

Comcast lost me as a customer because of restrictions on newsgroup downloading. I got one of those nasty exceeded bandwidth notices. Cancelled comcast and switched to dsl. No problem doing 24x7 newsgroup downloading with dsl. The retention has been great on the dsl newservers. The other nice thing is that I don't have to pay for an external news provider anymore.

See 6 replies to this post

Mellow
Premium
join:2001-11-16
Salisbury, MD

mmmm.. load balancing

sweet..guess its time to put that xincom twin wan router to use now. Comcast and cavalier. for $45/month.. not bad

Sisqo
World Champs. Babe Who?
Premium
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Methuen, MA

Re: mmmm.. load balancing

Well it's seems they feel a little threatened by the bells low pricing of DSL. I still think Verizon can do some damage on broadband share.

Will cable continue to dominate over the next year? Yes because they have years of headstart & larger depolyment then us (Verizon) & other bells. But in the long run I feel DSL will do good against this test.

I still do not know what is Verizon's position on this, but it all depends on how consumers respond to this.

For the most part I feel the majority of consumers would prefer quality over price overall I feel Verizon is beating Comcast in that area.

wheelzoff

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Irving, TX
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Re: mmmm.. load balancing

Of course it's different everywhere but here Comcast beats the pants off Verzion, I'd rather have 3000/256 over 1500/128 anyday (768/128 in my apartments), even for $15 more a month. Plus, my connection is awesome 24/7, so that helps too.
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Sisqo
World Champs. Babe Who?
Premium
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Methuen, MA

Re: mmmm.. load balancing

For most people that are not downloading as much if they are just browsing & occasionaly d-loading music etc.

They will not feel a huge difference, so paying $15+ is not worth it.

That's where DSL becomes more of a value than cable. Hopefully Verizon will be upgrading speeds soon, I do know that they are working on it. Just hope it sooner than later!

X

join:2003-05-27
Sacramento, CA

can you say BULL$#!^?

ya, ummm... as i told my moms story to some people around here - she had a "good" deal when started out with Comca$t - $20 for 3 months. however she only got 2 months out of it, and even the second month she had some problem so ill just count it as a complete month even tho it wasnt. oh ya and did i mention she got overcharged $90 not counting the $30 from third month she was supposed to get charged only 20 bucks?

Hmm... i wonder how many of those new customers will "accidentaly" get overcharged the same as my mom? so be very careful new customers, the cable horror storys still exist even today!

Also - BEWARE of Comcasts computers - they seem to not entering correct information all the time - so you may even have a worst story as my mom, since you wont actually have it entered in the computers that youre in the new deal. guess whos stuck payin $58 then?

neutral
faith in the future
Premium
join:2001-08-04
Ringgold, GA
·AT&T Southeast

Re: can you say BULL$#!^?

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ya, ummm... as i told my moms story to some people around here - she had a "good" deal when started out with Comca$t - $20 for 3 months. however she only got 2 months out of it, and even the second month she had some problem so ill just count it as a complete month even tho it wasnt. oh ya and did i mention she got overcharged $90 not counting the $30 from third month she was supposed to get charged only 20 bucks?

Hmm... i wonder how many of those new customers will "accidentaly" get overcharged the same as my mom? so be very careful new customers, the cable horror storys still exist even today!

Also - BEWARE of Comcasts computers - they seem to not entering correct information all the time - so you may even have a worst story as my mom, since you wont actually have it entered in the computers that youre in the new deal. guess whos stuck payin $58 then?

Gee that sounds familar. I wonder why that could be.
I recently got a "deal" of the first 3 months free, then $29.95 for the remainder of a year, with a free install . This is for the new speeds.
OK Let's see, the installer couldn't close out his order due to a "billing problem". Well the "billing problem" was that someone had added 4 self install kits to my account at $30/pop, and I needed to pay for those before they'd hook me up. Took 12 calls to get the charges dropped. Three weeks later they let me register. I now have 2 months free, one of which is almost over, and then a rate of $42. Ummmm no thanks! Bellsouth got it right the -first- time.
Oh, and someone still calls every few days wanting to know when I'll be returning the 4 nonexistent mystery kits. UGH.
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TACSPEED
Premium
join:2001-04-14
Tacoma, WA

How about competitive cable companies?

I wonder if they are going to offer the same deal in areas with a competitive cable company?

tymfdc

join:2003-06-19
San Leandro, CA

I am switching

I am already on the 6 month trial but I will probably switch now. Since there is no incentive to pay more, I guess the DSL must be good enough to make cable lower their price. I am certainly not going to pay $60 a month for boardband.
confusedone

join:2002-02-19
Muskegon, MI

No Thanks

No Thanks, I will keep my 29.95/mo dsl that has no contract and keep my dish network for TV, more reliable then when i had @home/attbi/comcast... stable pings/downloads/unlimited usenet/less downtime (about 10 min since december 2002)
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torchsonghq

join:2002-11-23
Everett, WA

Nay..

Well, sounds sweet, but..
I'm a hardcore internet user (webmastering, downloading huge files, considering to make a private server) and Covad is the way to go! They actually allow me to build a server or more without any bandwidth limitation.

My friend used to have Comcast but now he's got Covad, too. Unless you living in certain area, internet speed would be bumpy ride for ya..

VeriZo

@uu.net

Desperation?

I was a former comcast customer getting screwed
for $60/mo for not buying CATV service. I was totally
pissed off(Angst) so I cancelled. At the moment I'm on dial
up service paying $23/month. I would rather pay more
for less rather than go back to comcast. They offered me
$19.95 deals on several occasions until I had them put me on a Do-Not-Call list. These guys can jamb their cable
modems up their asses! I'll never go back,even if it's
$9.95 month!

If any company ever deserved to go bankrupt,this is
the one! These cable operators are all the same so I'm
finished with cable companies!

PS: The cable modem makes a nice door stop!
Fishie

join:2003-01-14
Riverside, CA

Re: Desperation?

SBC/Pacbell has 1500/128 with a free modem for $26.95/month if you order online and sign (and keep singing) a year long contract. But judging by your name, you might have Verizon as a phone company?
Fishie

join:2003-01-14
Riverside, CA

No Comcast...shucks!

Too bad we have Charter where I live. SBC only lowered their prices for people who sign year long contracts. The month to month prices stayed the same. Where my mom lives she gets Adelphia. It seems like a rather high latency. I am not sure though. I have not had much experience with cable. My DSL *seems* faster because of it though. Oh well, it's nice to dream though.
djrobsd

join:2002-01-24
San Diego, CA

Cable sucks

But 19.95 is a good deal for those who are on dial up, so more power to Comcast for trying to get more people lured in..

I'll take DSL thank you. Lower ping times, and much more reliable service, not to mention a lot less problems with viruses and trojans.

Cox cable here in SD is offering 24.95 for the first 4 months... I signed up for it, only cuz I just moved and my DSL won't be up for at least 2 more weeks, maybe 4. Who knows, I might just keep the Cox as a backup, but once it goes up to 49.99 a month I think I'll give them the finger!! I ordered the MCI DSL through DSL Extreme. I can't wait!!! $49.99 a month w/ 1 static IP, and 1500 down. 768 up.. and NO RESTRICTIONS AS TO WHAT I CAN DO WITH MY CONNECTION.

God bless DSL.

big greg
Premium,MVM,Ex-Mod 2005-6
join:2003-10-11
Boston, MA
clubs:

Cheaper than Earthlink dialup

It's a great way to get people off of dialup. Once they get broadband, they'll never go back.

DHRacer
Fire Survivor

join:2000-10-10
Lake Arrowhead, CA
·Charter Pipeline
·Verizon west (ex G..

Switch once, they will do it again...

If Comcast can convert DSL customers to their own with a simple price plan, then these same customers are probably willing to convert right back to DSL once the "grace" period is up and the raping begins.

After all, they are already DSL customers, so they have some experience with doing a HSI install, so what would stop them from migrating to the next great price plan offered by some one else? Maybe in a year the DSL provider will try to lure them back.

Like the fish trying to decide which worm looks bigger, and hey, why is there a hook in it?
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Sarge_0321

join:2002-06-27
San Diego, CA

Huh!!

And is Comcast going to reimburse the contract cancellation fee for DSL? Usually around $250?

If they will, maybe it's worth it.
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