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Samsung Sucks
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join:2003-06-07
Japan Inc. | Figures "One Vonage spokesman calls the quality "terrible"
Now don't tell me you didn't see that coming... | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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Phoenix, AZ | Re: Figures Of course!
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when a company is getting undercut, the one with money to lose is going to try to slam the free one. remember: 'you cant beat free!'
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IcEr3K
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join:2001-01-19
Los Angeles, CA
clubs:  | Re: Vq I agree.. great service. | |
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| McGoo7
join:2003-10-27
Pelham, NY
| Badger has hit the nail on the head. I have tested Skpe over a broadband connection and over dialup. When using broadband, the service was EXCELLENT. The same were performed using dialup and the quality dropped to that of a cell phone...sometimes it worked and sometimes not very well. | |
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misiek
join:2000-12-25
Round Lake, IL | Re: Vq Actually, my CDMA cellular phone sounds as good as POTS to me. Going CDMA on both ends, two separate service providers, sounds even better.
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maartena
Stacked.
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Orange, CA
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| I agree. I use Skype a lot to call a few friends and family member in The Netherlands, and ther ain't NO service that can give such a supurb audio quality for free.
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| vittorio4
join:2003-01-07
New Haven, CT | what's great for dial up users anyway... | |
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IGotThePower
Samsung Sucks
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join:2003-06-07
Japan Inc. | Re: Not ready fo prime time If they're techies, they wouldn't think that, would they?  | |
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| fraserf
join:2001-09-29
Amherst, NH | Don't be so sure about VoIP having poor quaility compared to POTS - you would be surprised how much "POTS" long distance is carried by VoIP today! And no one is the wiser. | |
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join:2003-01-07
New Haven, CT
| Re: Not ready fo prime time True, I don't use POTS long distance from my phone company anymore. I am not about to pay $0.30 per minute when I can get excellent VOIP-based calling card service for just $0.045 (I am talking about calling to Europe). VOIP, here we all go in a little while | |
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laxplayer83
join:2003-08-06
Downingtown, PA
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IGotThePower
Samsung Sucks
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join:2003-06-07
Japan Inc. | Vonage vs. MCI We've seen Vonage and MCI criticising Skype. I'd like to see Vonage and MCI criticising each other. That would be fun.Dorks. | |
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bigdaddy17
join:2003-05-08
Miami, FL
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sorne guy
@milwwi.ameritech | Re: skype yet
it is from the same guys as kazaa, so it will assuredly have spyware/scumware as soon as it hits the big time, or become a pay only service | |
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Phoenix2088
join:2002-12-04
Strongsville, OH
clubs: | FWD is better though I really don't like it when Skype gets more users in 8 weeks than what FWD has in one year. FWD pound for pound is a better service, and I'm sure everyone here can agree to that. I guess thats just how hype works for skype. | |
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| jeffpulver
Premium,VIP
join:2003-02-08
Melville, NY
| Re: FWD is better though said by Phoenix2088  :
FWD pound for pound is a better service, and I'm sure everyone here can agree to that.
Thank you.
But we have to give the Skype folks a lot of credit for bringing VoIP to a new generation of users.
The challenge with FWD is finding an easy way to explain it to the world since we are much more than just a closed PC to PC application. I tried to capture some of what FWD is recently in my blog:
»192.246.69.231/jeff/personal/arc···185.html
but even that doesn't cover all aspects of what FWD is.
As we get closer to the one year anniversary of FWD, I'm getting close to launching a new face for the FWD website. Hopefully a new look with help us gain some traction.
As of Nov 1st we have 71,000+ users.
Best regards, Jeff | |
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Bryan001
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join:2002-08-17
Saint Louis, MO | It's ok but doesn't beat MSN messenger I tried skype and I have to say that it does work but the quaility is horrible compaired to msn messager. There is up to five seconds of lag, and it hogs all your upload. With MSN messager there is none of that. | |
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bigdaddy17
join:2003-05-08
Miami, FL
| Re: It's ok but doesn't beat MSN messenger Skype? No MSN messanger takes up to 5 seconds and it lags like hell. I have used MSN Messanger and its NO where near better than skype. Skype is 10x better than msn messanger and it doesnt hog up your bandwidth. I think what you said there was the opposite. I use MSN but I dont use the voice conversation because the quailty sucks, it doesnt get through firewalls (unlike skype) and it lags and takes up to 5 seconds to reach the other line. Skype is way better than yahoo,AIM,MSN, and the telephone quality! | |
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blomywhistle
join:2002-04-04
Lowell, MA
| yeah, well... Skype's pretty cool.
MSN sucks overall.
Is "Made by the makers of Kazaa!" supposed to be a good thing?
It not bloated...and its free.
Overall, I don't think quality matters that much. It's pretty good on Skype and I doubt people will switch just because the quality is a little better elsewhere.
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Jumbo Lump
join:2003-01-19
Linden, VA | What about adware? is this program nice enough to install gator and friends along with itself?
I see the"makers of kazaa" bit and get the chills... | |
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Jeremy341
Bye
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join:2000-01-06
localhost
| Re: What about adware? said by Jumbo Lump :
is this program nice enough to install gator and friends along with itself?
I see the"makers of kazaa" bit and get the chills...
So far, the program is completely free of spyware and adware. Will that change? Who knows. | |
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pH1
Rawr
join:2001-12-31
Canada | Re: What about adware? eh, they made kazaa but the other company added the junk to it (from what I've read).. you might want to follow up on who added what to kazaa. | |
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@milwwi.ameritech | Re: What about adware? if you mean brilliant digital, they are a subsidiary of sharman
kazaa has had cydoor from day 1, in addition to other scum | |
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orever
join:2003-11-01
|  Missing the point
The main point of skype is two-fold:
• It works through almost all (home) firewalls which means that your mom should be able to use it without first configuring port forwarding or something on a device she probably doesn't even know is there. Just sign up, run it, and bam!, you have free phone calls
• It has taken care of all the directory functions for you and made them look like regular IM interfaces - very easy to use. There's no "dialing IP addresses" or having to slog through some big directory web site.
Face facts, while other VOIP applications might be standard or "correct", they are simply a MAJOR PAIN IN THE ARSE to set up for the average user. Skype's innovation is that they recognize that, and did something about it. | |
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dadawg001
@12.242.x.x | Skype Has Been Around a Long Long Time Now It's called Windows NetMeeting - Duh! | |
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Dennis
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| make money overseas, increase your "man" size Sure are a lot of people here who just love Skype to death.....
I wonder if it's better than SBoIP (Sliced bread over IP), cause the way some of you talk about it you make it seem like it will cure cancer, remove rust, and make your wife look 20 years younger.
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs: | Re: make money overseas, increase your "man" size Will it wash my doggie? | |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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| How I see it I tried it and it worked well. Much better than the usual "Teamspeak", "GameVoice", "Roger Wilco" apps the BBr UT clan uses.
However, according to their FAQ, your voice is routed through a myriad of computers, since it is a P2P voice app.
I am not a privacy buff by any means, but I know if I could program, I would whip something up in a heartbeat to record any "calls" going through MY computer.
Perhaps I am nosey like that though.
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jose3030
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Manassas, VA | Re: How I see it *shakes head* | |
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| The future of VoIP is: FREE I just don't see how pay VoIP services like Vonage can survive. The quality is no better than free VoIP. If the cable companies were smart they would start their own free VoIP network now, before it's too late. (The profit would come from (a) increased cable broadband subscriptions and (b) fees for calls to non-cable lines). | |
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mymegabyte
Mmm Glue
join:2001-12-09
Cedar Rapids, IA
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| Skype... true VOIP? When I read this I was expecting Skype to be similar to Vonage... As far as I am considered, Vonage is true VOIP and that is the best example of where we find the future of the technology. I expected Skype to be able to make calls to land phones as Vonage does, and the comparison leads me to believe. But the fact is that Skype can only talk to other Skype users. This is no new revelation. There have been other programs that have worked well for several years now, free that is.
So my conclusion, Skype is no big deal. | |
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Lex Luthor
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| said by mymegabyte :
But the fact is that Skype can only talk to other Skype users. This is no new revelation. There have been other programs that have worked well for several years now, free that is.
So my conclusion, Skype is no big deal.
Exactly. What's the big deal here? People have been making PC to PC calls for years now. How is this any different? I don't see this harming Vonage or MCI in any way until you
1) Get a number that people can call in on.
2) Can call out to land lines.
It's still a pain to for people to turn on their PCs, hook up a crappy MIC and get the other person to do the same before you call. Sure, it's cool for techies, but it's not going to be widespread it it's current form.
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| npj1976
join:2003-11-03
Sumter, SC
| Well after reading all about Skype and having used Vonage without much complaint for 6 mos, I think Skype is one of the best applications to use for two parties making PC to PC calls when one or both are on dialup. If the connection is braoadband, the level of communication provided by MSN and Yahoo is really gr8 but when it comes to talking to ppl on the other end, X-lite + FWD, Yahoo, MSN all fail.
Yesterday, I had about 2 hrs of communication overseas on skype with my brother who was using dialup and guess what. Connection never broke, no voice lag, no voice breakage. Even with gr8?? rates that Vonage provides for international calls, I would end up paying 30$$ for 2 hrs. And if I get the same voice quality with Skype... hey.. I am ready to skype!!
BTW I used Skype for voice and Yahoo for Webcam/video.. and it worked gr8.. | |
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jeffpulver
Premium,VIP
join:2003-02-08
Melville, NY
| Highway Skype Revisted While it is easy for many of us to get excited the early adoption of IP Communication technologies, (I've been watching this space for 8+ years), the fun will really start when/if we start to see signs of stickiness for the current wave of VoIP products and services.
It is one thing for a team to figure out the short-term tactical problems of home firewall NAT traversal and empower a generation of people to be able to freely engage in PC to PC community. But it will be up to the communities affected to decide how/when/where they choose to use these products and how often to rely on these products.
PC to PC communication isn't really new. But what is new is the level of penetration the Internet has, the immediate worldwide availability of high-speed broadband access and computer platforms, which support and encourage multimedia communication.
I don't believe this is about the advent of free communication. This is about something more and yet different.
The team at Skype has done a great job in helping a new generation become aware how easy it is to communicate using VoIP. But before any of us can talk about a true communications revolution, we need to take a hard look at the communication habits of this segment of the "always on" generation and see how much, if any, of their core communication needs is being replaced by the advent of services like Skype rather than depending upon their cell phones and/or other communication products & services.
The present signs are for the coming of a true "Consumer Communications Revolution" but it will be up to the people to decide what part of the next phase of this revolution they will be a part of.
And don't forgot that in the case of any revolution, you should expect to see those effected fighting back with the tools they are most effective in using - in this case it will be and is telecom regulations.
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r0x0rz
join:2003-03-02
Canada
| better than msn I use skype because i cant talk to my sister since she got a Dlink router with a hardware firewall... we arent too techsavvy and its basic interface is user friendly. But before she got the router, from what i can remember, the quality of skype seems better | |
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HKT
Me Llamo Hk
join:2003-09-14
81300 |  Just for Win2K /XP
coz i m using WinMe..
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