 vic102482
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
 ·Verizon FIOS
| This is realy great for helping the economy No really.....it is. There are already 5 other fees and universal taxes on web access. And how the HELL do you tax web access? They are already taxing ISPs for their revenue. Comcast and verizon dont take in 10 billion or whatever annually from internet connection sales and pay nothing. So they want to tax their (ISPs) income AND web access?
Everyone pays sales tax on internet connections right? This would mean that there would be an additional unrelated web tax?
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 | Raydr
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join:2000-11-19
Miami, FL | Re: This is realy great for helping the economy What they want to tax is sales made over the internet.
You buy something on eBay, you'll pay sales tax.
You buy something on an online store, you'll pay sales tax.
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| | vic102482
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: This is realy great for helping the economy said by Raydr  :
What they want to tax is sales made over the internet.
You buy something on eBay, you'll pay sales tax.
You buy something on an online store, you'll pay sales tax.
etc.
Sadly I wish you were right.....
which imposes a federal ban on state and local taxes on Internet access services *and* certain Internet-based sales transactions
Internet access services like VOIP, this means that they can tax it as a telecom serice (like verizon) and then DOUBLE tax it for web access, not to mention the ADDITIONAL web sales tax!
WTF are these states trying to do here? Everyones verizon bill would go from 29.99 to 32 bucks for standard sales tax and maybe 37 after all of said taxes.
Cell phone bills already suffer for this. I pay city, county, and state tax on my cell. 39.99 = 47.95 per month here in maryland after taxes.
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| | | jethrogump
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join:2001-03-02
Mesquite, TX
| Re: This is realy great for helping the economy This is almost a tax to help the following with Big bad Lobbies in Washington and all Government.
1. Walmart/K mart/Target(loss of sales to a little guy online and Ebay)
2. Usual Suspects: SBC, Verizon and their Klan.
Walmart probably thinks this is Cool as selling themselves as all American when they are a China junk store. | |
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Jsouth
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Wichita, KS |  Re: This is realy great for helping the economy
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J D McDorce
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join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI | Re: This is realy great for helping the economy They must have connections somewhere, since they were able to shaft all of their former stockholders without going out of business. | |
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Part Of The Problem
join:2001-09-27
Dayton, OH
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| said by jethrogump :
Walmart probably thinks this is Cool as selling themselves as all American when they are a China junk store.
The Pringles I bought there didn't come from China.
Otherwise, yes, Wal-Mart is a GUI for Chinese products.
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join:2002-07-04
Dayton, OH | Re: This is realy great for helping the economy The can did! | |
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join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL
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| Will it ever end? Consider the following: (excludes a large variety of internet taxes that could be created by cunning politicians)
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
Capital Gains Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Court Fines (indirect taxes)
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money)
Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Local Income Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Septic Permit Tax
Service Charge Taxes
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Taxes (Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Road Toll Booth Taxes
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee (indirect tax)
Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
Telephone recurring and nonrecurring charges tax
Telephone State and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Toll Bridge Taxes
Toll Tunnel Taxes
Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)
Trailer registration tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
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Stewy85
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join:2003-01-16
Sharon, WI
clubs: | Re: Will it ever end? Well.....that ruined my day.
I knew that there were tons of taxes but......DAMN! | |
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join:2001-11-08
Houston, TX | It sounds to me like it is time to throw another
tea party. | |
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UnKown
The Underground Network
join:2002-09-08
Orlando, FL | Re: Will it ever end? "It sounds to me like it is time to throw another
tea party."
I say we dress up as Terrorists this time and call ourselves the brothers of Liberety | |
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join:2000-04-11
Juneau, AK
| said by Raydr :
What they want to tax is sales made over the internet.
You buy something on eBay, you'll pay sales tax.
You buy something on an online store, you'll pay sales tax.
etc.
Except you forgot something....
Article 1, Section 9, Clause 5: No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.
Don't you just hate it when that little something called "The Constitution" gets in the way of your pet
world-view" | |
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| Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| this will hurt the economy, many online stores arent geared to handle the tax systems of 50 states let alone all the counties and cities who have sales tax. and i thought internet access was taxed allready, what is "web access" and how is it different from internet, sounds to me like a get rich quick and spend it all plan by the states.
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| jackabyteinc
join:2002-07-04
Dayton, OH
| Just like in Ohio, we are taxed to hell. Our state just started taxing the hell out of everything not nailed down and then some. By next 2 years our sales tax is going to be 12.5 cents on the dollar(from 6.5 cents), that is high by any standard. They did this tax hike without anyone knowing about it, saying it was done to help our state economy. Now our local city has raised our taxes to the highest in this part of the state also. Now more taxes on internet access and e-commerce will break the bank(us) worse than we already are. We are stretched too far and about to break. Its like getting water from a stone. When its broke tax it, that is their solution to everything. We are going back to Medieval times of fighting off the the tax man sent from the local Lord(laugh it up, because it is already happening). They are taxing those of us that already are hurting because of job loss since that raccoon looking Prez of ours has become some sort of dictactor now with congress giving him and his administration full power to do what they wish which is against the Constitution(they would roll over in their graves if they new this was happening!) I thought we claimed Independence from England for this type of crap! People need to start speaking up and making these politicians do what they are supposed to. Money talks though. Just saying what all of you already know, a redundant comment I guess. | |
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join:2002-07-04
Dayton, OH
| Re: This is realy great for helping the economy Just posted and went out and got the mail, low and behold there is a new tax hike levy of about $200 a year more on top of the new tax hike of $800 a year that they just imposed that they want passed November 4th. What are we going to do!!!!!!!! Every few months there are new taxes for all of us. Now what happens if the Web access and e-commerce taxes go in effect? We need a US tea party(not Boston haha!). | |
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Elf Wizard
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | buy stuff online and somehow forget to declare it in april.
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StudioTech
More clear QAM channels, please
join:2001-10-10
Edison, NJ | Can the gov't ever do without more money? Just asking... | |
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Ncc1701
join:2000-10-10
Falls Church, VA
| said by StudioTech :
Just asking...
"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys" -- PJ O'Rourke
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cyberthugin
join:2002-03-12
Kew Gardens, NY | Tax That Assz Sick and tired of taxes, seems to me that the govt can only do it tax you on everything and imprison you if you don't pay up. | |
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jose3030
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Manassas, VA | Re: Tax That Assz Dumb people in DC use federal money unwisely.
Everyone pays for it.
Yea, give me freedom or give me death. | |
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join:2003-01-10
Imperial Beach, CA | Re: Tax That Assz What Only Washington? I'm afraid what Cali is going to do to my isp nevermind additional sales tax. Looks like i'm going have to find another way to shop for anime. | |
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| | | vic102482
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Tax That Assz said by evagilon :
What Only Washington? I'm afraid what Cali is going to do to my isp nevermind additional sales tax. Looks like i'm going have to find another way to shop for anime.
That is the general attitude that will take place. States will really be shooting themselves in the foot if they do that. I sense "mail in" web sales taking affect.
Print out an invoice online mail that sucker in, and the company pays tax as a mail order vs. web access.
The fact that this can even be fathomed shows the disrimination on web access tax.
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Mellow
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join:2001-11-16
Salisbury, MD | got taxes? I say we just tax every mexican that walks freely over our borders instead of taxing the internet. | |
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kfolsom
A face made for radio.
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Yucaipa, CA | Re: got taxes? "That'll be one dollar, please. Thank you and enjoy your visit. Here's your hand stamp." | |
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join:2000-11-26
Granite Quarry, NC | Re: got taxes? NO. If you stamp their hands, they can get back in. | |
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TheHelpful1
Premium
join:2002-01-11
Upper Marlboro, MD
 ·EarthLink
| I like an old quote made by Sinbad.
Paraphrasing.
"Lets put up two 20-foot fences along the boarders between the U.S. and Mexico, and in between those two fences (think large box with the oceans making the sides) we let a whole bunch of lions and tigers loose in there. And if ANY Mexican can outrun those guys, Welcome to the US partner"
That's sort of like dumping a whole lot of bloody, dead fish into the waters around Florida when the coast guard sees some illegals trying to make land. I think (clarify if I'm wrong) the rules state if the illegals make it to land they can stay, but if they get pulled into the coast guards boat, they get sent back. Well i think some frantic, hungry sharks swimming about would make a darn good incentive to get in the coast guards boat!
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jethrogump
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join:2001-03-02
Mesquite, TX
|  Take Lawyers out of Government
They really could care less about adding another tax because this country of Lawyers has it so screwed up already the only way to fix it is to remove them all from Government.
Internet tax unacceptable, Taxing on E-commerce could kill that business also. This is just another act buy stupid aristocrats who have a butler or a grunt do their email and funny enough know about as much about the internet as George Bush or Al Gore | |
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woody7
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Torrance, CA | Go Govt........................................ | |
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oliphant5
Got Identity?
Premium
join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA
| They have enough friggin' money They don't need more. And even if they get it, what the hell will they do with it...waste it, just like they did in California? No thanks. I know how to spend MY money better than the corrupt government knows how to spend MY money.
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dylking
join:2001-07-31
Saint Paul, MN
| lost revenue?An often-cited study by the University of Tennessee estimated that states, cities and counties nationwide lost a total of $13.3 billion in revenue in 2001 because of uncollected e-commerce sales taxes. Colorado lost an estimated $200.7 million in revenue, according to the study. The study went on to project that the loss will grow to $45 billion annually by 2006. How do you lose revenue you've never collected? That's like saying I lost 190 Million this weekend, because I didn't win the power-ball.
I wish these people would be a little clearer - a loss of 'potential revenue' would be a much more accurate statement in my opinion.
As far as the taxes themselves go, I think we're taxed enough. States need to cut spending, not increase revenue, IMHO. (tho that's probably getting a bit off topic  | |
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Elf Wizard
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| Re: lost revenue? tell that to my state, a few days ago i saw a Conn state government plate on a brand new BMW X5 SUV. hmm maybe they wouldnt be in debt if they bought Cavliers for state cars.
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15,000 Watts of Bass Power
join:2002-10-16
New Milford, CT | Re: lost revenue? It might also save money if they didn't keep repaving the same section of I-84 three times in one year too! | |
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| thank you. Potential revenue is exactly what it is. Its the same confusion that screws people in the stocks. Just because a stock drops in price, doesn't mean you've lost anything. Its potential, aka if you were to have sold it at its high, potentially you would have made ______. If you still have the stocks, you haven't really lost anything, you still have the stocks, you don't exactly have to sell them...
You want tax money, how about kicking the irs's ass to actually attack the big corperate jerk off's that are skimping on their tax's instead of leeching it out of the people who actually have to work for it.
No i'm sorry, wearing a suit, and sitting in an office on the phone as a ceo, and making the occasional decision does not qualify you for 100mil pay check a year. Especially when your running your company in a way that gets around alot of the taxings by "paper moving" your hq to bermuda. | |
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join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | higher prices for internet access... yeah, that's what we need, taxes to make the cost of internet access higher - that should really help spur people to adopt broadband.
What a bunch of morons.
don't tax you, don't tax me, tax that fellar behind that tree | |
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Cheetah9
join:2001-01-07
Bethel Park, PA
| Re: Speaking of taxes...........
So, who the hell do you vote for to end this mess!!!???!!! It simply doesn't seem to matter here in PA! Does it!
I finally had it with both parties, and switched to Independent a few years ago. My way of making a statement, since here in PA it sure seems my vote doesn't.
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TwoCpus4me
join:2003-10-16
| Re: Speaking of taxes........... If there is money being made somewhere, they will go after it.
Everyone remember the free ATM machines (bank machines that is). Now every time you use it you pay $2.00 fee to put gas in some tycoon's yacht while it really costs about $0.15 per transaction. Talk about profit and greed. A robot does the work, employees who used to make $10/hour are all fired because they are not needed due to robot teller.
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Grumpy
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| Re: Speaking of taxes........... It is generally the case that the consumer is responsible for their home state's sales tax, plus penalty and interest, whether said taxes are collected or not. Let's say that you live in one state with 7% sales tax, but slip over the state line and buy a major appliance in a 5% sales tax state. You are often liable to pay the 2% difference to your home state. Who collects this tax isn't a huge issue to me. You are either liable by your home state's laws or you are not. If Amazon or any dot com does not collect the buyer's home state sales tax, it doesn't exempt the buyer from the tax liability. | |
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spawn46375
join:2001-03-07
Schererville, IN
·AT&T Midwest
| more tricks to fund manure study this is total crap! not only is it against the law to double tax anything, but who is gonna enforce that?
you pay yet 75-90% of your money goes to these outrageous taxes to fund more crap! but thats ok because 90% complain about it and 2% say something to congress about it and you wonder why we have these outrageous taxes.
its about time to vote and vote we shall for someone that wont do his job and cares nothing about it and yet he will still get a paycheck for the rest of his life for lying to us. i wish i had a job like that!
But, what do i know im just a union ironworker thats sick of seeing this belly aching and yet hardly anyone trys to do anything about it | |
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tidal
Tidal
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join:2001-01-18
Madison, AL | Contact your representatives. I plan on calling my states representatives tomorrow and to vote yes to ban the tax.
information can be found at www.congress.org and the bill number is s.150 | |
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