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DNS changes anger many
(old news - 02:00PM Tuesday Sep 16 2003)
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Verisign isn't particularly popular this week among network administrators after the company changed the DNS system yesterday to take advantage of typing mis-cues. The company yesterday decided to add wildcard DNS records to managed .com and .net domains, in essence redirecting wayward surfers to a Verisign search portal should they get lost while traversing the digital highway. The changes were quietly announced to the North American Network Operators Group (NANOG) mailing list yesterday without much fanfare, but the decision quickly made waves as evident in various forums throughout Broadband Reports.

Users, typing in incorrect addresses, might have originally been directed to an informative error message. Now, thanks to Verisign's changes, those same users will now be redirected to Verisign's sitefinder index. Critics charge that the company is exploiting its role as operators of the root DNS servers in order to advertise to lost users (Verisign was granted top level domain management rights by ICANN when they purchased Network Solutions).

Admins are also upset by a wide variety of other problems the changes will cause, including making it more difficult for mail servers to reject mail from invalid domains. According to one disgruntled critic speaking to the Register, that's not all: "If an MX record points to an invalid host name, that host will now resolve, the SMTP connection accepted and the mail then rejected. Because the rejection is a 550 error, that mail will not get retried *ever* again. If that MX was the highest priority mail server than all mail to that domain name will bounce."

The changes also impact many attempts to eliminate spam. Since many systems attempt to verify the authenticity of a domain to determine an e-mail's validity, now that ALL domains in essence exist (since non-existing domains now trace back to sitefinder), it makes many of these technologies temporarily useless.

Causing a long list of problems simply to advertise has naturally created quite an anti-Verisign push among many admins web-wide. The company had already managed to dig themselves a popularity hole due to a history of somewhat brutish business tactics in regards to domain renewal notices.

Disgruntled techies are already contemplating work-arounds, including hacking BIND (the dns server software) from the top level to disallow wildcards altogether.

Those interested in letting Verisign know what they think of the new system could contact Scott Hollenbeck and Matt Larson from VeriSign's Naming and Directory Services. You could also, in this glorious age of free-speech, let Verisign president W.G. Champion Mitchell, or Chairman and CEO Stratton Sclavos know how you feel as well. Users can also complain directly to ICANN via this form.

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phxmark
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edited

I wish it would stop this...

This last visit to here, I accidentally type [a bad-website, variation on dslreports] as the URL and ended up someplace totally wrong.

I hate it when companies and people take advantage of mistyped URLs, which in some cases will hijack your browser.
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[text was edited by moderator]
DALarose

join:2003-03-07
CANADA

I have noted the Internet has slowed

I can't decide if NetSol/VeriScam is to fault but in the past few hours the entire Net has slowed waayy down. I feel this could be that VeriSign's wildcard in the words of Scotty ... kanna take the strrr...ain... she's gonna blow kaptian.

If all tld have to be verified by NetScum/VeriScam, eventually their servers will melt. Oh course nobody here is going to out of their way to misspell 1,000's of URLs

Hmmm, a cyber-Flash Mob

In the words of Bob Newhart ".. but that would be wrong..."
DALarose

join:2003-03-07
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More News...

»news.com.com/2100-1032_3-5077530.html

Die NetSol, you gravy sucking pigs
scomps

join:2001-06-05
Utica, NY

Re: More News...

said by DALarose See Profile:
»news.com.com/2100-1032_3-5077530.html

Die NetSol, you gravy sucking pigs
in your previous message you complained of speed problems. While I agree Verisign has done an unethical and technically dangerous thing.. wasted space, and bandwidth such as this only compounds the problem.

Use that preview button and ask yourself every time... The whole internet is holding it's breath waiting to hear what I have to say... Do I really want *this* to be what they get?
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DALarose

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Re: More News...

I post a relevant link, and post a 6 word editorial comment to which in 67 words you preach bandwidth conservation... hmmm kettle here!

»www.circleid.com/article/260_0_1_0_C/

another link, on topic
scomps

join:2001-06-05
Utica, NY

Re: More News...

said by DALarose See Profile:
I post a relevant link, and post a 6 word editorial comment to which in 67 words you preach bandwidth conservation... hmmm kettle here!

»www.circleid.com/article/260_0_1_0_C/

another link, on topic
I chose to be civil rather than promote name calling and discuss mealtime with livestock.
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shadowshack
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Re: More News...

Mr Johnson, you are clueless.

Wide Glide
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For these type of business practice I do not & will not ever use and or reccomend there service.
I would also like to see their domain management rights revoked.
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Ginger
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edited

Re: I wish it would stop this...

May apology; wrong thread.
[text was edited by author 2003-09-18 23:27:31]

Camelot One
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Crappy..but.

It was only a matter of time. Put that much power in the hands of a private organization, and sooner or later they will use it to their advantage, regardless of the problems it causes for the real world.
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join:2001-07-06
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Re: Crappy..but.



Put that much power in the hands of a private any organization, and sooner or later they will use it to their advantage, regardless of the problems it causes for the real world.

Let's not make the the assumption that absolute power corrupts only private corporations. { see dept. of homeland security }.

tiger72
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Sending email now

email on its way

Maggs
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Network Solutions Does it again

I had so many problems with them.

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Re: Network Solutions Does it again

It took me 5 months to resolve a fraudalent billing charge from Network Solutions, a Verisign company. I would NEVER NEVER NEVER do business with them again. I canceled a domain with them in May and transfered it to GoDaddy, they still persisted to bill me, even after my exact words were "cancel my entire account".

pnh102
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Re: Network Solutions Does it again

said by Maggs See Profile:
they still persisted to bill me, even after my exact words were "cancel my entire account".
Yea, the word "cancel" to most companies means about the same as the words "free" and "unlimited."
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Re: Network Solutions Does it again

This sucks, now the spam filters that try and validate email addresses as real/bogus think ANY domain is valid, and let the SPAM thru...

Thanks Vericrap, this is total BS.

pnh102
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Re: Network Solutions Does it again

said by KrK See Profile:
Thanks Vericrap, this is total BS.
Verisign got you down? GO DADDY!!!!

Seriously though, I've been using Go Daddy for over a year now, and they are EXCELLENT. I was amazed that when I got hosting for one of my domains, the DNS propagation took only about 6 hours, as opposed to the 3 daze it takes for Verisign.
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STEVECH

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Ditto.

aggiejy
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Appalled

That is abuse... I sure as hell won't be doing any business with them.

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Re: Appalled

said by aggiejy See Profile:
That is abuse... I sure as hell won't be doing any business with them.
I agree, but I guess it's better than being redirected to a site with endless popups or porn. If there is even a good way to look at it.

Tom

kilingspam

join:2001-04-30
San Jose, CA

Re: Appalled

I agree, but I guess it's better than being redirected to a site with endless popups or porn. If there is even a good way to look at it.
------------------------------------------------------

You DONT UNDERSTAND!

Any www.xxxx.whatever you type that does not EXIST sends you to their website to buy it!

kilingspam

join:2001-04-30
San Jose, CA

This is the largest cybersquating case in history!

This has just got to be illegal!!!!
I myself use wildcards for secret sections of my websites.
My server looks at the header and fwds it to the proper page. (Not wanting to have that zone published for the world to see)

Verisign is scum, scum, scum, scum!!!!!!!!!!!

The are the same folks who want to sell domain names lottery style and keep all the cash.

I'll be sending several emails to these folks, along with a few calls. They are going to have to call PacBell to block my # I am going to be on them so much!
This is just UNREAL!!

This is the largest cybersquating case in history!

Anyone who has their domains parked at verisign I urge you to transfer them elsewhere.

Hackers, get the drones ready for one heck of a dos attack!

Hummm, better yet, a chainsaw to verisigns trunk lines might give them a better clue!

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Re: This is the largest cybersquating case in history!

As much as I disagree with Verisign's actions (and feel secure that their decision will be reversed), I think that it's not such a good idea to promote DOS attacks in general. Especially considering that most DOS attacks depend upon thousands of compromised machines. You are, by a couple of degrees of separation, condoning cracking. Just food for thought.
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Re: This is the largest cybersquating case in history!

In a nation where everything is made illegal, only criminals have freedom. Funny how companies and corporations are allowed to run roughshod over the public but the public can't hit back without being "criminals".

scomps

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said by kilingspam See Profile:

>
Hackers, get the drones ready for one heck of a dos attack!

Hummm, better yet, a chainsaw to verisigns trunk lines might give them a better clue!
See my comment earlier about the internet holding it's breath. *shakes his head*
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Sodoshi

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Re: This is the largest cybersquating case in history!

If you have nothing good to say, say nothing.

morbo
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horrible company all around

these guys have been on my sh-t list for a long time. all this does is confirm everything i tell people about verisign: shi-ty company that i will never do business with nor recommend to anyone.
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technick
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if my memory serves me correctly

Wasn't versign busted for sending out misleading letters to domain owners that their domains were going to expire, and that they should renew through verisign.. this is bullcrap people...

Any company that conducts business like this should be bombed, burned to the grounded, and sued for being a a dirty company.
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Re: if my memory serves me correctly

said by technick See Profile:
Wasn't versign busted for sending out misleading letters to domain owners that their domains were going to expire, and that they should renew through verisign.. this is bullcrap people...
Yes. I was one of those people. I was quite amused that their "special" price was more than the price of the other registrar (DirectNIC) I had gone with.
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cyberthugin

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Don't be fooled if you think that versign is only culprit, actually register.com is getting sued for the similar thing when they created this "coming soon" on newly registered domain names which they intention put links or advertised their services on the coming soon page.
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edited

Email sent...

Not that they'll ever see it (I imagine their mail boxes are full, already), but sent a complaint email to Verisign. Gotta go file a complaint with ICANN, next.

For what it's worth, you can complain to ICANN about Verisign at this page.

-tom
[text was edited by author 2003-09-16 13:51:25]

oliphant5
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Re: Email sent...

The Ed. should add ICANN to the list of complaint recipients.

Karl Bode
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Re: Email sent...

Done and done...

KoolMoe
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Re: Email sent...but one is wrong

Your message

To: shollenbeck@verisign.com; mlarson@verisign.com;
wmitchell@verisign.com; ssclavos@verisign.com
Subject: Verisign Hijack
Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:17:15 -0700

did not reach the following recipient(s):

wmitchell@verisign.com on Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:17:40 -0700
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a=
;p=verisign;l=MOU1WNEXC010309161917S0QQ8RAQ
MSEXCH:IMS:VERISIGN:HQ:MOU1WNEXC01 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient
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oliphant5
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Re: Email sent...but one is wrong

You should IM Karl to fix it. It may be a while before he comes back.

Spore Cloud
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Re: Email sent...

I hope they choke on it all.

guhuna
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bsh

I got flamed about saying how bad verisign was and now look!!!!!
IceNineJon

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Woodland Hills, CA


edited

Can I sue?

Anyone know a good lawyer? Couldn't I sue since www.(myname).com now resolves to something without my permission (just like Madonna and corporations)? Or because mispellings of my domain name go elsewhere (haven't courts found that this is illegal in some cases)? Has anyone heard of anyone actually trying to stop VeriSign rather than just complaining about it?
[text was edited by author 2003-09-16 13:48:29]
psianime

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San Gabriel, CA

What the...

What happens when you are changing DNS servers for your domain? It will redirect to VeriSign's site index page. People will think that your site has shut down or was sold.

I'm sure VeriSign can make a pretty penny if they decided to put up ads.
youngo

join:2001-07-03

Re: What the...

well they have links in the bottom of that page.. the related categories thing.

DaSneaky1D
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So Verisign owns the Internet

If Verisign owns the root DNS servers, they pretty much own the Internet. So, instead of the DNS servers being part of an independant worldwide infrastructure, they are simply a greedy company "letting us use" their servers. And since they are their servers, they can do what ever they want to do no matter what anyone says.

Boy. This world, this world.
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oliphant5
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I'm a n00b but

How are they (verisign) able to handle all of these errant requests? Wouldn't it be like an ultra-massive DoS attack?
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Re: I'm a n00b but

not at all since the requests have less headroom to move to it actually takes less usage to do it. and the usage is about 1/8 th of a normal dns look up request.

so in essence yeah it's like a dos but it would take 8 times the traffic to show any sign of load up on thier systems. all requests would be loopback look ups and actually use very little bandwidth as well.

I personally love godaddy and we use it alot for a couple bucks less per name. they have yet to faulter.

Ohhh yeah anyone else thinking this may lead to a free dns style network where the new dns could ignore dns tables from verisign ??? now that would be a sweet reward for the people
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edited

In a related matter...

My domain name is currently registered with Network Solutions, and they host my mail service. As I do not have a web site for my business, they decided (without informing me) to reroute anyone attempting to access my not-yet-existing site at www.(MyDomain).com to their own advertising page. Their "solution" to this situation is for me to hire them to host a web site that indicates that I have no web site. Aghhhhhhh.......
[text was edited by author 2003-09-16 14:16:26]
IceNineJon

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Re: In a related matter...

Well, first thing, move your domain name to a different registrar.

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Get Rid of all domain names registered to Network Solutions, the accounting/ billing dept is horrible. It took me 3 months to clean up a charge that was not authorized by me for the extension of a domain name I had registered with Network Solutions. I switched to GoDaddy and have been happy ever since. My credit card company thought I was trying to pull some stuff but it was Network Solutions fault. My only recourse was to put a "fraud alert" on my credit file. This will probably negatively impact my credit history but it was the only way. I have since closed the credit card account that I have used to get the domain names registered.
MadisonWatch

join:2003-09-08
Madison, WI

Use OpenNIC instead of Verisign

»www.opennic.unrated.net/

Go to the site
read what to do
make the needed changes
smile

PA23

join:2001-12-12
East Hanover, NJ

Re: Use OpenNIC instead of Verisign

That's all well and wonderful, and I haven't used verisign for years but...

what they have done is cause any domain that is within the .com or .net domain that wasn't registered before get resolved to one of their web pages.

esentually they did:

[all valid .net and .com domains]
*.com = verisigns host
*.net = verisigns host
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NOVA_Guy
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An interesting story...

A while back Verisign asked some of its customers to come in and be a part of some focus groups. They were offering to pay $50 or $100 (or something like that) in cash to each participant at the end of the meeting. The point of the focus groups was to help Verisign determine why they were losing market share (or were losing out) to other companies when it came to personal (and I think small business) domain name registrations.

Needless to say, some interesting things came from the meetings. At the time of the meeting, a couple of the folks in my group were no longer Verisign customers; a few others were in the process of switching some of their domain names from Verisign to other registrars. A number of people blasted Verisign's customer service for everything from billing issues to having to navigate a labyrinth to get an actual customer service rep on the phone.

It appears that some time after all this input was made to Verisign, they still haven't made any changes. They're still up to their usual tricks, and still annoying people with potentially problematic business practices. That's too bad...

Ironically, as a result of going to this meeting and participating, I learned about GoDaddy from one of the other participants. Since then, I have switched my one domain that was with Verisign over to GoDaddy and have registered another couple there as well. Once I left Verisign, I never looked back. And now that they're doing things like this which will make it that much more difficult to stop spam, I never will.

I can understand why Verisign would want to do what they're doing (free advertising), but that does not mean I disagree with it any less than anyone else.
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pierce2

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muah-hah-hah

been getting nothing but timeouts from the verislime redirection webpile. heh. wonder if someone is dos'ing them?
IceNineJon

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Woodland Hills, CA

Re: muah-hah-hah

The redirect points to »sitefinder.verisign.com/index.jsp which is still up for me.

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I read about someone in NANAE suggesting posting web bugs
with non-existent URLs on dynamically generated web pages:
enough of these redirecting to Verislime would effectively
result in a DDoS attack.
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E-mail Bounced :-)

I sent an e-mail to Verisign exec W. Mitchell bounced back to me; here is the message transcript:

----------------

Your message

To: wmitchell@verisign.com
Subject: Woohoo!
Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:00:57 -0700

did not reach the following recipient(s):

wmitchell@verisign.com on Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:02:32 -0700
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a=
;p=verisign;l=MOU1WNEXC010309161902S0QQ8PNC
MSEXCH:IMS:VERISIGN:HQ:MOU1WNEXC01 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient

------------

Muhahahhah!
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127.0.0.1

i think i need to add something to my host-table

roamer1
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Re: 127.0.0.1

I just "null routed" the sitefinder site...
# block nsi sitefinder

/sbin/ipchains -A output -p tcp -d 64.94.110.11/32 -i ppp0 -j DENY
/sbin/ipchains -A output -p udp -d 64.94.110.11/32 -i ppp0 -j DENY
-SC
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Bobcat
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Re: 127.0.0.1

Looks like the IP address is now 12.158.80.10
64.94.110.11 doesn't work for me anymore.

kilingspam

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San Jose, CA


edited

Re: 127.0.0.1

Load balancing perhaps?

They are hard at work making a patch for bind to ignore verisign injection their wildcard BS.

AP Article on yahoo news about it



Also, if you look at the source code (sitefinder.verisign.com), verisign has an image tag that is actually working as a 'web-bug' tracking you.

It is pointing to verisignwildcard.112.2O7.net.

I wonder if writing to their Sponsors from their new page would do any good?

I hope my isp blocks this bs, how can I verify a 'real' email address in my website forms anymore?

Spam? How to deal with it now? Rework everything because verisign decided to abuse dns? They should get their .com etc cert revoked and fined and jailed and.. Errrrrrrrrrrrrr.......
[text was edited by author 2003-09-16 19:35:29]

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Re: 127.0.0.1

The federal government gave Network Solutions the authority
to manage the Internet's DNS infrastructure for the .com
and .net TLDs. Now that Verisign has abused that trust that
the Feds placed in them, they ought to revoke that
authority from Verisign, in addition to meting out fines
and jail time for their CEO and Board of Directors. I
think the fine ought to be at least a $1 billion.
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said by Bobcat See Profile:
Looks like the IP address is now 12.158.80.10
64.94.110.11 doesn't work for me anymore.
When I do DNS queries for known nonexistent sites, I'm still getting 64.94.110.11 as a response.

Still, I blocked the 12. address as well.

This is absolutely ridiculous...fortunately, most of my sites are in .org and .info, which given that VeriSign doesn't run the registry for those (Public Interest Registry does .org and Afilias does .info) aren't affected.

-SC
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