Hunting Spam - Spam forum sharpens their spears

Hunting Spam
Spam forum sharpens their spears
(old news - 11:16AM Wednesday Jul 16 2003)
tags: spam

When a spammer wandered into our Stopping Spam forum last week and began hawking his wares, the ensuing chaos was nothing if not entertaining. Acting under their own petrol and not officially endorsed by Broadband Reports in any way, users took it upon themselves to put to rest the activities of a user pitching an antispam product in their forum. The resulting fifty-four page thread makes for an interesting chase. The resulting mess was linked to Slashdot on Monday. Some passers by have been supportive of their efforts, some think it futile, and others wonder if the effort isn't perhaps a touch over-zealous. Many of the participants have now begun plans for their own unaffiliated website dedicated to tracking down and stopping spammers.

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drjim Premium,MVM join:2000-06-13 Torrance, CA clubs:	Go for it, guys! Made it to /., huh? Pretty good!
	permalink · 2003-07-16 11:21:55 ·

techwench I Work For Food Premium join:2003-06-26 Oklahoma City, OK	Re: Go for it, guys! said by drjim : Made it to /., huh? Pretty good! Heh. Yeah, that's why the server was so slow the last few days. It's getting back to normal now, though.
	permalink · 2003-07-16 11:31:55 ·

aztecnology The Autumn wind is a Raider join:2003-02-12 Murrieta, CA	said by drjim : Made it to /., huh? Pretty good! I hate spam, nuff said...
	permalink · 2003-07-21 18:19:31 ·

dewman99 join:2000-12-28 Palm Harbor, FL edited	Good 4 You Wish more people would start doing this sort of thing. [text was edited by author 2003-07-16 11:23:49]
	permalink · 2003-07-16 11:23:38 ·

MaJinke @218.104.x.x thumbs down from: Nothlit	Trace spammers! Good for them, go get spammers! If you need help to catch spammers a good software is "WinSuperKit" available at: »www.mjksoft.com/
	permalink · 2003-07-16 11:38:29 ·

lemondrop Defender Of Mindless Frivolity join:2000-08-03 Virginia Beach, VA	Re: Trace spammers! are you joking??!! I could be wrong, but this www.mjksoft.com/ sure looks like spam to me
	permalink · 2003-07-16 11:47:13 ·

merc669 join:2000-08-19 Lexington Park, MD clubs:	Here is another link to "WinSuperKit" is the above does not work; »www.newfreeware.com/internet/508/ ka101....
	permalink · 2003-07-16 11:52:33 ·

Annoyed at mjksoft @attbi.com	This joker spammed the big spam thread with this same thing as well. mjksoft.com is looking to be a commercial spammer with his activity. Take your commercials elsewhere!
	permalink · 2003-07-16 12:02:18 ·

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Re: Trace spammers!

Someone wondered whether Antispamcard's spammed anti-spam
software was in fact a stealth address book harvesting
system disguised as a spam filtering tool? Like a wolf in
sheep's clothing. Sounds as though Mjksoft is perhaps
more of the same ilk.
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permalink · 2003-07-16 15:48:32 ·

OmenQ Spazz Premium join:2003-03-21 Continuum clubs:	Ahaha.... this is exactly what got the 54 page thread started, this same activity. People never learn.... The guy that is being hunted was selling an anti-spam product too. -- Resistance is Futile. You will be assimilated.
	permalink · 2003-07-16 12:16:12 ·

lemondrop Defender Of Mindless Frivolity join:2000-08-03 Virginia Beach, VA	Re: Trace spammers! yeah, the only difference is that chad/brad is local and this clown is from,like, china or someplace....oh well, he still may make for an exciting hunt... -- A friend will bail you out of jail.a real friend will be sitting right beside you in the cell, saying " wow, we really fu*ked up his time....
	permalink · 2003-07-16 12:41:03 ·

AmeritecTech Change we can believe in, 1922 Premium join:2002-09-06 00000	said by MaJinke: Good for them, go get spammers! If you need help to catch spammers a good software is "WinSuperKit" available at: »www.mjksoft.com/ Sigh. Please apologize to the site for not making it more clear that you are the owner of that site. -- Hate spam? Join the insanity
	permalink · 2003-07-16 13:48:33 ·

Mordy
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edited

Re: Trace spammers!

said by AmeritecTech :

said by MaJinke:
Good for them, go get spammers!

If you need help to catch spammers a good software is "WinSuperKit" available at: hxxp://www.spammersoft.com/
Sigh. Please apologize to the site for not making it more clear that you are the owner of that site.

What is it with these dense spammers? Rule #3 in effect? I mean, how stupid is spamming a thread about a massive spammer hunt?
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[text was edited by author 2003-07-16 15:11:59]

permalink · 2003-07-16 15:01:43 · Print ·

Unit649 I B U, Who U B? Premium join:2000-01-22 Stockton, CA ·Comcast	Overly blatent Some people just get way too overconfident that they are untouchable. Once they cross that line, thats when they find out they aren't. This guy is a prime example of that. -- U ::::Founder, ForeverChat IRC Network:::: »www.foreverchat.net
	permalink · 2003-07-16 11:40:33 ·

AmeritecTech Change we can believe in, 1922 Premium join:2002-09-06 00000	Just to add... The new site is operational. »www.spammerhunters.com
	permalink · 2003-07-16 13:50:28 ·

hobgoblin Sortof Agoblin Premium join:2001-11-25 Orchard Park, NY clubs:	Re: Just to add... Ameritech told us "The new site is operational. »www.spammerhunters.com" Isnt this spam too? Hob -- "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
	permalink · 2003-07-16 14:15:10 ·

AmeritecTech Change we can believe in, 1922 Premium join:2002-09-06 00000	Re: Just to add... said by hobgoblin : Ameritech told us "The new site is operational. »www.spammerhunters.com" Isnt this spam too? Cute. That would depend on how you define spam. Typically it references things of a commercial nature. -- Hate spam? Join the insanity
	permalink · 2003-07-16 14:20:06 · Print ·

ARIA Linux Premium join:2002-04-15 Brooklyn, NY clubs:	Re: Just to add... thats kind of funny SPAM AGAINST SPAM
	permalink · 2003-07-16 14:35:46 ·

chunkylover38

@e-nt.net

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Nothlit

Hmmmm...

Looks kinda fishy to me -

------------------------------------------------------------------
Domain name: spammerhunters.com

Registrant :

SpammerHunters.com

Spammer Hunter (admin@spammerhunters.com)

unlisted

FAX: unlisted

The Internet

Orlando, FL 32810

US

Administrative :

SpammerHunters.com

Spammer Hunter (admin@spammerhunters.com)

unlisted

FAX: unlisted

The Internet

Orlando, FL 32810

US

Billing :

SpammerHunters.com

Spammer Hunter (admin@spammerhunters.com)

unlisted

FAX: unlisted

The Internet

Orlando, FL 32810

US

Technical :

SpammerHunters.com

Spammer Hunter (admin@spammerhunters.com)

unlisted

FAX: unlisted

The Internet

Orlando, FL 32810

US

Status: PROTECTED

Note: To help prevent malicious domain hijacking and domain

transfer errors, the registrar has protected the registrant

of this domain name registrant by locking it. Any attempted

transfers will be denied at the registry until the registrant

requests otherwise. The registrant for the name may unlock

the name at any time at the current registrar in order for

a transfer initiation to succeed

Name servers:

Creation date: 2003-07-14 17:17:41

Expiration date: 2004-07-14 17:17:41

permalink · 2003-07-16 14:51:28 · Print ·

AmeritecTech Change we can believe in, 1922 Premium join:2002-09-06 00000	Re: Hmmmm...
	permalink · 2003-07-16 16:03:58 ·

aztecnology The Autumn wind is a Raider join:2003-02-12 Murrieta, CA	Thanks for the waste of space...
	permalink · 2003-07-21 18:24:21 ·

YmanY @eurodsw.com thumbs down from: Nothlit	Was this forum just spammed? -------------------------------------------- Just to add... The new site is operational. »www.spammerhunters.com --------------------------------------------
	permalink · 2003-07-16 15:12:30 ·

SpamXX

@cybertrails.com

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Re: Was this forum just spammed

It would appear so, look:
________________________________________________________
mail.spammerhunters.com claims to be host mail02.powweb.com

Primary nameserver: dns1.name-services.com.
Hostmaster E-mail address: info.name-services.com.

dns1.name-services.com. [63.251.163.102] [TTL=172800]
dns2.name-services.com. [216.52.184.230] [TTL=172800]
dns3.name-services.com. [63.251.83.37] [TTL=172800]
dns4.name-services.com. [64.74.96.226] [TTL=172800]
dns5.name-services.com. [212.118.244.164] [TTL=172800]
________________________________________________________

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permalink · 2003-07-16 16:02:47 · Print ·

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edited

Yes, it was spam

He was told to mind his manners yesterday in the forum, not that anyone would have taken him seriously.

Hawking anti-spam software from a China-Netcom IP address is like wolves trying to sell farmers intrusion alarms for chicken coops.

inetnum: 218.104.0.0 - 218.107.255.255
netname: CNCNET
descr: China Netcom Corp. Beijing
descr: New Telecommunication Carrier Based on IP Backbone
country: CN
admin-c: YZ213-AP
tech-c: YZ213-AP
mnt-by: APNIC-HM
mnt-lower: MAINT-CN-ZM28
changed: hostmaster@apnic.net 20010919
changed: hm-change@apnic.net 20020703
status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE
source: APNIC

[text was edited by author 2003-07-16 16:04:53]

permalink · 2003-07-16 16:02:21 · Print ·

jdir join:2001-05-04 Santa Clara, CA	How to get back at spammer I found an easy way to get back at spammer. Look through your list of spam message, if one of them is a lottery click on it. Chance of that lottery also request 5 or 10 addition email address. Enter the lottery and fill the 10 friends and family email address with 10 other spammer address...let the spammer get spam
	permalink · 2003-07-16 18:06:53 ·

aztecnology
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Re: How to get back at spammer

said by jdir :
I found an easy way to get back at spammer.

Look through your list of spam message, if one of them is a lottery click on it. Chance of that lottery also request 5 or 10 addition email address. Enter the lottery and fill the 10 friends and family email address with 10 other spammer address...let the spammer get spam

The problem is that spammers usually don't like to leave a trail to go back to...so in the end you have just wasted more of your time on spam...
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AmeritecTech Change we can believe in, 1922 Premium join:2002-09-06 00000	And typically they fake the address...so you're harming an innocent victim of the spammer.
	permalink · 2003-07-17 01:48:14 ·

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edited

They can because they can.

My 'o' My this guy has more alias than Santa Clause.

Thats his Clause..

I always liked the interesting idea of having a shared universal key at the start of an email header. That way If someone spams the thing it's like they are breaking a smartcard for direct tv. "Hacking your antispam filters."

"habitOS" in the header always filters into inbox. everything without habitos is trashed. This is the personal area anyone wanting a reply or response from a person. NO AUTOMATED MESSAGES. Servers that transmit must have time stamped signatures.

"AtomAT" in the header always filters into inbox. This is the personal area for automated response messages. You must have physicaly sent a message to this address before it can send you e-mail. The message header must be validated and verified before it can be sent through this.

"ADVat" in the header always filters to where you want it. if you don't want it it's automaticly trashed. The message header must be validated and verified before it can be sent through this.

"TechSH" in the header always filters to where you want it. If you don't want it it's automaticly trashed. Use for tech support. The message header must be validated and verified before it can be sent through this.

"NewsGP" in the header always filters to where you want it. if you don't want it it's automaticly trashed. News is for e-mail you sign up for "new groups" The message header must be validated and verified before it can be sent through this.

There is no law to put these guys out of business they think they are untouchible. If we had a law like the satalite industy has where if they attempt to gain unatherised access then by breaking codes to bypass protective measure then access is a illigal.

Making a new national filter shared key rule set (anti-spam) based would make anyone who uses those shared keys outside of their discriptions to solicite spam as breaking laws. Punishment by blacklisting and or fines.

[text was edited by author 2003-07-16 19:45:09]

permalink · 2003-07-16 19:18:27 · Print ·

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Go for it, guys!

Re: Go for it, guys!

Good 4 You

Trace spammers!

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Re: Trace spammers!

Re: Trace spammers!

Re: Trace spammers!

Overly blatent

Just to add...

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Hmmmm...

Re: Hmmmm...

Re: Was this forum just spammed

Yes, it was spam

How to get back at spammer

Re: How to get back at spammer

They can because they can.