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File sharing tech takes center stage
(old news - 03:06PM Tuesday Jul 01 2003)
tags: Fileswapping · bandwidth
Over a month ago, we wrote about the latest craze in filesharing, Bit Torrent; a technology that has since exploded in popularity. At the time of our initial report, many people had never heard of the technology. Many still haven't, but in just over a month, the usage of that application has exploded and can be seen everywhere. Several websites are now up (and stable) offering a myriad of guides to what's being shared out there. So what's so great about Bit Torrent? What's so different about it from any other filesharing application?

First, there's no searching services built into Bit Torrent. When you find a file, you're nearly guaranteed that it's going to contain the content you asked for. You very rarely (if ever) fall victim to the corrupted/fake file syndrome that you see on many other peer-to-peer programs, eliminating a major headache. There are, however, a few file-sharing applications (E.G. Shareaza) out there that will search for torrents, as well as many other popular file-sharing extensions, but you eventually fall victim to falsification of files again.

Secondly, BT rewards those who upload while they're downloading. As soon as you start downloading a part of your file, you immediately begin to start uploading what you have to other people around the internet. This means that files can be shared faster, because you don't have to wait for someone to have a completed file in order to download from them. There are ways to disable the uploading, but in situations where available upload bandwidth is limited, Bit Torrent will give the uploaders greater priority on their downloads than the leechers.

Some large websites, especially those distributing linux and linux components, have adopted the Bit Torrent technology. This has vastly increased download performance while decreasing bandwidth costs at the same time. Now, much smaller sites have the ability to spread their files across the internet without having to worry about hundreds and thousands of dollars of bandwidth charges each month. Even some IRC channels have been using BT to distribute their files. The anime scene was one of the first to start distributing files and so far it's been a huge success. More people can be served, and they can be served much faster.

Our filesharing forum has helped dozens of users to get online with Bit Torrent.

The technology's creator, Bram Cohen, says that his "attempts to promote BitTorrent for any specific purpose basically failed", but that he hopes the technology can still find a viable place on the internet. Cohen addressed several questions, including his feelings on piracy, in a recent Slashdot Interview.

So far the technology sounds great; but what's the catch? Many people still love the simplicity of a one-two click/GUI based search technology. There's no doubt that Bit Torrent requires a little more technical knowledge than many of the other filesharing applications. Also, as is being discussed in our forums, Bit Torrent doesn't make you invulnerable from the large agencies that try to crack down on copyright infringement and piracy.

You're just as likely to receive your fair share of attorney nasty-grams if you choose to downloaded pirated content. There's certainly no doubt that a good chunk of the files that are distributed are of the illegal type, but there is certainly a lot more practical and legal uses for it then most other file-sharing applications.

Bit Torrent doesn't seem to be going away anytime soon, and as more people use it, the technology should improve. This is one of the few file-sharing applications that provides a higher quality of performance for everyone as its user base increases.

Broadband Reports user Archivis contributed heavily to this report

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Brianv
Low Level Functionary
Premium
join:2001-01-20
Keyser, WV
·Comcast

Works for me!

Lateley I've had trouble with a "tv" site for some files, just didn't seem to be online, but for the most part it works great. I like it more than any other p2p app. Since its not really an app.

Its hard to find anything but the most current things though, no one will leave their windows open forever. Catch 'em while you can.
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Anything can be tweaked!
c0mmander

join:2001-10-03

Re: Works for me!

thanks for "shining" the spotlight. a few of my favorite BT sites went down since then, in fact one has been under constant DoS attacks the past few weeks so they're provider pulled the plug on them. wouldn't surprise me if RIAA/MPAA was behind it all.

some of the sites that were shut down completely were not completely legit, but several were including the one that is now fighting those DoS attacks and searching for a new provider

RIAA/MPAA won't stop until they ban P2P, BT, MIRC, FTP, HTTP.

bistro777
Donuts-Is There Anything They Can't Do?
Premium,MVM
join:2002-02-07
Englewood, CO

From an article at cnn.com - - New file-sharing sites hide users' Ids - - Take a look at Filetopia, which claims “file sharing tool with public key encryption,” using a choice of strong ciphers and public key techniques for all communications and sophisticated techniques to protect your IP and thus make you truly anonymous and safe from attacks. From the article it appears that Blubster will soon be thinking along the same lines.

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DenverDialup

join:2003-06-06
Littleton, CO
clubs:

Re: Works for me!

Hmmm...From that article:
quote:
The Recording Industry Association of America, which represents the major recording companies, said it would file several hundred lawsuits against individuals within eight to 10 weeks seeking financial damages of up to $150,000 per copyright song.
$150,000 per song?! You've got to be kidding me. And I thought making a college kid pay $15 grand for operating a "file sharing network" was bad...
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"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

ryang
Premium
join:2001-04-01
Chicago, IL
·Comcast Formerly ..

A little slow, but good

I've found that BT sites tend to have some pretty rare files, ones that I could never get anywhere else. Usually they go pretty slow, under 40k. But for very popular files BT can max out your download. Also your download if you don't throttle it.

And btw, nice speedometer I didn't know 08 mph came after 79:)
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aztecnology
The Autumn wind is a Raider

join:2003-02-12
Murrieta, CA

Re: A little slow, but good

said by ryang See Profile:
And btw, nice speedometer I didn't know 08 mph came after 79:)

Probably made in France...
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
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join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
·AT&T U-Verse
·RoadRunner Cable
·AT&T Yahoo

Newsgroup downloaders benefit, too

Thanks to Bit Torrent, I (and other people who download
from binary newsgroups) have found new releases and
other fresh material, often even before it has gotten
to IRC. I've even seen stuff get posted within hours of
its release, thanks to others using Bit Torrent. And
getting the stuff from newsgroups is relatively safe
WRT getting nastygrams from RIAA or MPAA lawyers - they
generally leave NG downloaders alone.
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cyberthugin

join:2002-03-12
Kew Gardens, NY

Great

I think product is pretty good for sharing files, esp for new software builds.

sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Netcong, NJ

Entropy

If you're concerned about privacy, Entropy looks insteresting:

»entropy.stop1984.com/en/home.html
marcussen

join:2003-02-20
Shawnee, OK

Sounds a lot like emule / edonkey

Emule and Edonkey has had a very similar way of sharing files for years, a hash (MD5) is produced of the file and of the individual chunks of the file, on a web site supporting edonkey links you just click and the file you get is guaranteed to be what you clicked on, it works well for large files (movies) but you have to give it time to work, a well spread movie may take several days or more.

wheelzoff

join:2001-02-14
Irving, TX
clubs:

Re: Sounds a lot like emule / edonkey

Very similar but for some reason files spread much better the way bit torrent does it. I can even seed 600mb files on my slow 30k/sec upstream in less than 24 hours, it takes days to do that on emule. By seed I mean if I stop sharing there are enough people sharing the file still that others can download, with emule I have to share for days to make sure they are spread enough so others can download while I'm offline.
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macmouse
Premium
join:2002-05-30
Saratoga, CA

Re: Sounds a lot like emule / edonkey

Yes. This works because bittorrent makes one "list" or central server keeping track of everything. So pretty much instantly, you can get ahold of a list of all users and be able to fill up connections. With edonkey,gnutella,etc there is no central server, and thus it takes much longer for the message (and user "list") to be passed along.

Imagine the differences like this. A message being send across the "grapevine," from one neighbor to the next. "Did you hear? bob got a new car!". Vs an announcement being made on the local newspaper. Everyone picks up the paper and gets the whole information on the spot, instead of running around and getting bits and pieces together.

The benefit of central is speed, but the benefit of decentralized is it can't be shut down (and "no one" to blame).

F walker
Hey Intern, Get Me A Campari
Premium
join:2003-04-10
Vancouver, WA
clubs:

BT question.....

Doesn't WINMX use this technology already?.. if not how is it different from the way WINMX works?
Sankyuu

join:2003-07-01
Toronto, ON

Good.

I like BitTorrent, mostly for downloading non-North American released Japanese Animation titles, which have been freely 'fan-subbed'. I think BitTorrent will be around for a long time, since it does not TECHNICALLY violate any sort of laws, if you do not sell what you download. That is why, in the case of anime, whenever a series is licensed, it is taken off of most Japanese-BT sites. Not even RIAA can smash BitTorrent, if it does not break any sort of laws.

If it does, then let us all sell our DSL/Cable connections, and stop buying CD's and all forms of media all together, and send the world into economic chaos.
russotto

join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA

Interesting speedometer

Goes from 70 to 08...

Sarick
It's Only Logical
Premium
join:2003-06-03
USA
·FrontierNet Intern..

This is nice, ? look out, may be dead end for P2P!


This is really good, I hate getting files I that don't work or aren't something I wanted in the first place. I don't file share so stuff so most of my downloads are directly from the web.

I'm concerened this might not have a chance to take off though. With the new FCC ruling allowing ISPs to regulate the content its my understanding that FILE sharing will become a lot harder.

It might not have been made obvious but there are companies urging ISPs to block file sharing request from entering or leaving their networks. Also Blocking web access to sites that promote or offer the file sharing software.

This bit tolerance might not have a chance to be widely appoved.

Speedy8
Premium
join:2002-08-22
Alliance, OH
clubs:

Symmetric

I still think the only real problem with BT is most people having very low, 128-384k, uploading capabilities. If everyone had 3000/3000 symmetric connections imagine how fast BT would be. Everyone would be maxing out their connections and get files very quickly without stressing any single source at once. Ah yes in the fantasy "perfect world" everyone would have symmetric connections and every site would use BT for all of their file downloads.

But in reality it still works very well for getting new, and sometimes even a little bit older anime releases. I've been using it for that purpose for quite awhile, and occasionally other uses, including linux ISOs. Great piece of software, basically works the way way emule/edonkey has always worked, but seems to go much faster.

etreer

@umbc.edu

Music Link

Some music that is OK'd for distributing via BT is linked here:
»wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=Bi···ownloads

For guiding principles, see
»wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=TradeFriendly
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