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join:2002-06-27
San Diego, CA | Number Do these add up?
22% of households...
6 out of ten...
isn't that like 60%? Versus 22%?
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elboricua
El Subestimado
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join:2001-08-12
Bronx, NY | Re: Number 6 out of 10 have internet access, not necisarily broadband. | |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
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| Re: Number Wow. What a poorly written newsblurb.
If you follow the link, it IS 22% of US households with broadband, not 22% of those with internet access.
On the second number, the 57 million and 154 million household figures are WORLDWIDE, not US.
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Quaker Hill, CT | Re: Number the 57 million and 154 million household figures fit in perfectly with their 22% and 60% numbers. it's not that well-worded, but you should be able to at least understand it... | |
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join:2002-01-02
Fleeting | Re: Number quote:
six out of every ten American homes have Internet access, with more than one-fifth (22%) of American homes making that link through broadband connections.
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
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| First off, DSLR has rewritten the blurb this thread is based on so it is less confusing now. While this was appropriate, it might be nice if they had tagged the revised article as having been revised. But it's nice to know that our various comments here do have some effect, somewhere!
Second, newbieuser, I don't see how the 57 million and 154 million numbers "fit perfectly" with the 22% and 59/60% numbers as the household numbers are 2002 and 2005 comparisons and the percentages are broadband vs. dialup, current year numbers.
Third, if 154 million households was 60% of the US, that would mean the US had about 256 million households--quite an accomplishment for a country with less than 300 million people. (Lots of second home deductions on the 1040, I guess....)
Sometimes I think too many people took speed reading....
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doh
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TilhasBB
Formally Goden99
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join:2000-08-05
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| It makes sence why the numbers for highspeed seem low.
Compair price of what Americans pay for High speed with Canadians you realize Americans are getting ripped off big time.
Dsl 1.2Megabit is 35$/month Unlimited CANADIAN dollars here.
In US it's a Lot more for the same thing (don't know edzact numbers) | |
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Doctor Dan
Weapons Of Masturbation
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join:2001-10-20
Papiopolis
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| 12% of U.S. homes now in the fast lane 60% have Internet access, 20% of that is broadband.
Thus: 0.6 * 0.2 = 0.12, or 12% of households in the US have Internet access via broadband.
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join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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| Re: 12% of U.S. homes now in the fast lane said by Doctor Dan  :
60% have Internet access, 20% of that is broadband.
Thus: 0.6 * 0.2 = 0.12, or 12% of households in the US have Internet access via broadband.
- Dan
that's what i got. says 22% in the article - are we missing something? | |
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Doctor Dan
Weapons Of Masturbation
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| Re: 12% of U.S. homes now in the fast lane > that's what i got. says 22% in the article - are we missing something?
No, the way the DSLR article wording is imprecise.
The actual text of the report states:
"While Internet penetration has already reached 59% of US households, broadband will be in over one-fifth (22%) of US homes this year, rising to one-third (32.2%) by 2005..."
but the DSLR blurb says:
"...indicate that six out of every ten American homes have Internet access, with more than one-fifth of them making that link through broadband connections."
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join:2001-04-10
Geneva, IL | Figured this myself, seems as if someone is playing with the numbers ......
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gomer1701ems
join:2001-08-23
Minneapolis, MN
| Re: 12% of U.S. homes now in the fast lane said by BK3 :
Figured this myself, seems as if someone is playing with the numbers ......
Could it be the RIAA?
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alfnoid
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join:2002-02-18
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| whoever posted this article misread While Internet penetration has already reached 59% of US households, broadband will be in over one-fifth (22%) of US homes this year, rising to one-third (32.2%) by 2005, according to eMarketer's new Broadband Worldwide report.
This is from the first link »www.emarketer.com/news/article.p···#article
It does not say that one fifth of all internet access is broadband, but rather broadband will be in over one-fifth of homes this year.
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join:2002-01-02
Fleeting | Re: Is it just me.... That makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever. | |
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murdok6100
Avatar. Get It, Avatar?
join:2002-06-20
| BAH, it is what it is. Broadband will grow, it will (and almost is) a tool to rope more and more people to pay a bill that we feel we "MUST" have.
Stats will always make us feel like we need to buy more or have more.
And are we debating the numbers only?
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master1000
join:2001-02-22
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dyoo78
join:2002-10-25
Emeryville, CA
| It should be closer to these figures... OECD report was just issued a couple months ago... I was astonished to see that broadband access doubled in just 4 months! Yep folks, it's not the case. It's growing at a slow pace... | |
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| creepndth
join:2000-12-21
San Francisco, CA
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| Re: It should be closer to these figures... As I study the graph carefully, I come to the conclusion that there are actually three distinct bars for each country, for dsl, cable and 'other broadband'... to get the total broadband subscribers for a given nation, it seems that you have to tally (or add up) each bar.
So, taking the USA for example, there are roughly 4-7% for each category. If you add those up, they come out to about 15-20% which seems to come close enough to the 1 in 5 (projected) figures quoted in the article, especially when you allow for new subscribers in the past 6-12 months.
Just my two cents as I interpret the graph, which could have been more clear IMO. If I'm somehow misunderstanding your point, my apologies, and feel free to comment!
Cheers!
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dyoo78
join:2002-10-25
Emeryville, CA
| Re: It should be closer to these figures... The graph shows the number of broadband subscribers per 100 inhabitants. In Korea, for instance, you have around 22 people subscribing to broadband per 100 inhabitants. In the US, 7 people per 100 inhabitants subscribe to broadband . In terms of broadband penetration, this means that the US had a 7% total broadband penetration as of September 2002. One cannot reasonably expect that figure to jump to 22% in a matter of months.
I am inclined to think that the 22% penetration the article is talking about is 22% of total internet subscribers, NOT 22% of the whole country. I must say, however, that those figures this company is forecasting are very optimistic (they're projecting 13% of the total US population to be on the Internet via broadband). You don't go from 7% to 13% over a couple months. | |
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