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join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | Is Verizon supporting simultaneous voice/data yet? Seems especially with the car kit and data based navigation this would be an important feature? | |
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Dread
Macs suck
Premium
join:2005-02-28
Bronx, NY
 ·Optimum Online
| Re: Is Verizon supporting simultaneous voice/data yet? said by beaups  :Seems especially with the car kit and data based navigation this would be an important feature? Nope, verizon is behind the tech still. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: Is Verizon supporting simultaneous voice/data yet? That functionality is only available on WCDMA. Not so much behind as they didn't support EV-DV for whatever reason. | |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| This will appear with LTE where voice will be basically a VOIP data stream along with the data. EvDO version in use does not support voice/data.
As for navigation, it picks up where it left off just fine after a call, just not convenient when you're making a bunch of turns.
Either way dont talk and drive. | |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs: | intresting. This goes to show you that vz is better than att when it comes to back haul and who spends there money on the network and not washington. | |
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NeoandGeo
join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN | 3.1 mbps? Are there only certain 3g areas that can get that speed, or only certain devices? I can only seem to pull a maximum of 1.6 mbps will full service. | |
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tiger72
SexaT duorP
Premium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
clubs: | Re: 3.1 mbps? the rated speeds (3.1mbps for EVDO, 3.6/7.2/14.4/21/42mbps for HSPA and HSPA+) are ALL maximum theoretical very near the tower. Real world speeds are typically half to 1/4 of the rated speeds. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: 3.1 mbps? said by tiger72 :the rated speeds (3.1mbps for EVDO, 3.6/7.2/14.4/21/42mbps for HSPA and HSPA+) are ALL maximum theoretical very near the tower. Real world speeds are typically half to 1/4 of the rated speeds. Plus hardware makers and standards bodies love to say the PHY speed, not the speed exposed to IP or application layer. More users you have per tower, more protocol overhead robbing actual speed. | |
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join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN | Sure would be nice to have a 1/4 or even a 1/10 chunk of that 21mbps, haha. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: 3.1 mbps? Too bad T-Mobile is the only carrier deploying it in the US. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: 3.1 mbps? T-Mobile doesn't have 3G back home, and they barely do here.
Additionally, as long as AT&T keeps their network where it is right now, we'll continue to have whiny iPhone users whining about a legitimately poor network. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: 3.1 mbps? HSPA+ won't help iPhone users any.
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: 3.1 mbps? Hunh, I thought I heard something about the iPhone being fully compatible with Telstra's NextG network (21 Mbps HSPA+) down under. Maybe I was wrong.
Ah well, Apple can always introduce the iPhone 3Gse. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | There are reports of about 2.5 Mbps down and 800 kbps up on EvDO service. I've seen 2 Mbps down and 600 kbps up on Sprint... | |
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antidelldude
join:2003-12-22
Rochester, MI
| Yay Fiber I think Verizon saying 90% of their sites will be covered by a fiber back haul by 2013 is a ballsy move. I know they will get it done, but i'm not going to hold my breath for 2013. Fiber is the future dammit, and all the other companies need to stop dancing around the subject and start investing to get rid of copper and start laying fiber. | |
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| ame101
join:2002-05-02
Southington, CT
| Re: Yay Fiber I do contract work for Verizon, in New England, they are spending money hand over fist. Cell site upgrades to fiber from T1 or in some cases was less then that. Are going fast here. The issues we have seen is getting the damn fiber to the tower, a lot are not in the best locations. We just ripped out a conection to a site that was half run on a 50 pair tel co line. Old school stuff. It had "modems". Jim | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Yep. It's expensive to bring it to the tower, but once it's there you're good to go for as much bandwidth as you want to pump down the pipe, as long as you own a port at both ends and a dark strand in between. | |
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join:2009-06-28 | Telus in Canada recently let it slip that they already have fibre to 85% of their sites. Given the amount that Verizon invests in their network I think 90% by 2013 is very very achievable. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
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| 3.6Mbps... true but... quote:
AT&T’s 3G evolution path will widen that gap over the next two as it upgrades its base stations to 7.2 Mb/s HSPA, but for now VZW has an efficiency advantage, allowing it support much more capacity over the same spectrum
That 3.6Mbps in 5MHz supports more 3.6Mbps connections in the 5MHz than the 3.1Mbps does in 1.25MHz, and also has voice supported.
I.e. sort of like saying a 21Mbps connection or 6 3.6Mbps connections.
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | Wont all the 700mhz lte be att compatible If the android is 700 LTE, wouldnt it work on ATT as well ? Plus is it exclusive ? | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: Wont all the 700mhz lte be att compatible The Droid isn't LTE. It's CDMA. Though the Motorola Legacy ( = droid overseas) is GSM/WCDMA. | |
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null
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| More robust network technology AT&T is deploying more robust "real" 3G whereas what Verizon/Sprint are deploying is just old technology with faster speeds.
I can talk on my AT&T phone while my computer is tethered to it and continues to download. Try that on an EVDO network... it isn't possible.
Sure Verizon has "more 3G" than AT&T but their 3G was just a software update for faster speeds over the same old IS-2000 network.
As to why Verizon's network won't be strained, they answered that years ago and we all know why it won't be strained.
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@charter.com
| The hidden reason that Verizon's network will not be strained by the Droid is that it has be crippled by Verizon/Google. Google redirects all web requests to feed through their servers and they serve up a low bandwidth version of web sites. You can test this with Flash Video. If Google doesn't have a low bandwidth version cached to serve the Droid of a web site using flash you get nothing, nada. It is sort of like the WAP concept on steroids. WAP has been used for years for dinky mobile phones.
Then the iPhone comes along with the real web, except Apple makes it clear it will not do network killing Adobe Flash. No need for WAP any more and people flock to the web using a mobile device. Sheer numbers clog the available resources of the AT&T wireless network.
Now Verizon is promising freedom if you switch networks without telling anyone it is back to the pseudo web people never really liked in the first place. Verizon and Google control the servers to make it happen in real time and many are not even the aware they have been had. Whole web pages are missing and unreachable from the Verizon network if accessed by the Droid.
That really solves the network strain problem, doesn't it?  | |
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majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
| hmm Droid wont nearly attract as many people all at once.
The problem is millions of people all hopping onto att's network at once.
I am sure if I took say 20 million people and threw them on verizons network all at once using data they would have problems too. | |
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puck0114
join:2005-12-24
Washington, DC | Of course it won't... ... it's a blip on the screen. | |
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vzcorrection
| Verizon != Verizon Wireless Just wanted to let you guys know, that Verizon is a different company than Verizon Wireless. Verizon wireless is a joint venture by both vodaphone and Verizon, and is therefor completely separate. Therefor, it is not Verizon Wireless begging for money from congress like some of you think (and net neutrality), that is Verizon Telco. I wish this forum would differentiate the two, this article is about Verizon Wireless and NOT verizon. There is a different logo also that should be shown. | |
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pimpinparker
join:2005-06-14
North Baltimore, OH | Exicted, I believe Verizon It should be okay where I live, I doubt the network here will be congested because it's always fast right now and I have a feeling it still will be after the Droid is released. I will be getting it though. | |
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FastiBook
join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| No..... Droid won't be a problem, because not enough of them will be sold to have any real impact. Not bashing or anything, i'm being really serious. A lot of people i've talked to outside my normal circle are waiting for their contract to be up to grab an iPhone. With iPhone 3G at 49.99 refurb, many phones still have a large number of things to impress people with enough to make a 50 dollar iPhone look like a bad purchase.
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@nuvox.net | Of course it wont strain the network It wont because not that many people are going to buy this phone. Its still not even equal to the 3Gs and the OS is balky and bug riddled and the camera blows! | |
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Doubledee32
join:2002-06-20
Charlotte, NC
| Somewhat skeptical! I seriously doubt that Motorola can compete with Apple. I'd be shocked if this phone outsells the I-phone. But at the moment I'm taking a wait and see attitude. I have alot of co-workers who switched over from Verizon just to get the I-phone and I must admit it's quite an impressive unit. | |
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