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New York, NY | Re: shhh...... second this.
Verizon Network and EVDO is much more reliable. Heck, even sprint's EVDO is more reliable than AT&T | |
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1 edit | Re: shhh...... Yuck - please not Verizon Wireless.
T-Mobile - definately (its already GSM based anyways)
Sprint - well, it does work
VZW - yuck. When I had it, it was h3ll in Los Angeles. Bad billing, dropped calls ensure that I'll never go back.
I personally use AT&T, mostly because of a good discount from my employer - 28%. It does work well in my area, but it has had its issues here in the past.
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1 edit | Re: shhh...... you should see the stuff being put in at vzw...holy crap...what recession... | |
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1 edit | Re: shhh...... Until VZW's CEO comes and kisses my a$$ and offers an apology on TV for attempting to ruin my credit rating (their corporate store lost my cancellation and kept billing me, and attempted to send me to collections), VZW will not have any business from me.
They also need SIM cards, IMO, and no brew/gin unified screen for me to make use of it.
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| said by en102  :Yuck - please not Verizon Wireless. T-Mobile - definately (its already GSM based anyways) Sprint - well, it does work VZW - yuck. When I had it, it was h3ll in Los Angeles. Bad billing, dropped calls ensure that I'll never go back. I personally use AT&T, mostly because of a good discount from my employer - 28%. It does work well in my area, but it has had its issues here in the past. I second that. I think the problem is with the iphone and not AT&T. I really wish the Pre was on AT&T to give me a better choice. My friends with Bolds never have problems but I can be standing right next to them and have problems.
Shame on Apple for producing such a subpar product. | |
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| Re: shhh...... I personally think its a bit of both...
iPhone is a high volume data device (full HTML) compared to pretty much every other device out there.
AT&T has had poor 3G deployments, and in areas are spectrum starved, causing a lot of issues.
I have an HTC Tilt and V9x, and they work great. On Sprint, I have a Treo 800w, and Sprint has very good coverage in SoCal. I dislike it for making calls, as the calls are highly synthesized compared to what I get on AT&T. To be fair, I rarely drop calls on either - probably 3 dropped calls since last November, and many of my calls (work) are 1-3 hours during the day.
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Valencia, CA | Re: shhh...... A lot of that can also vary by location.
T-Mobile is also very good out in SoCal (one of the oldest GSM networks - and was built from the ground up as one, vs transformed into it).
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| Re: shhh...... said by en102 :A lot of that can also vary by location. T-Mobile is also very good out in SoCal (one of the oldest GSM networks - and was built from the ground up as one, vs transformed into it). T-Mo is horrible in big spots in Chicago. Verizon also had bad reception on the South Side at least, however, Verizon recognized that issue with my zip, and released me from my contract without paying an ETF. T-Mo will still charge the ETF no matter what the reception is. From that standpoint, Verizon did not burn the bridge!
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| Re: shhh...... Rogers has what... 7.7 million customers and what 65MHz of spectrum ? AT&T has almost 10x that, and less spectrum in most markets.
I also suspect that Rogers has less overall 'load', due to its expensive options - like having to pay for long distance, voice mail and caller id on most plans.
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| Re: shhh...... I will agree with that. I suspect that the Los Angeles market (or NYC market) has as many or more customers as Rogers does total. IF AT&T had at least 2 carrier channels/market from the start, AND in the markets that had 850MHz they had deployed 3G on 850MHz from the start.
AT&T's deployment was anything but smooth in many areas. If they had purchased spectrum (like T-Mobile did with AWS), it might have been less of an issue... but then again, there aren't a whole lot of devices on AWS 3G (iPhone included).
Canada only has 3 wireless carriers, there's typically 4 in most urban markets (VZW/AT&T/Sprint/T-Mo) and a handful of smaller carriers (Cricket, MetroPCS, USCC) all using pieces of spectrum. I don't count Nextel/Boost, as they use 800SMR spectrum.
Point being - 3G UMTS channels consume 5MHz (10MHz paired) of spectrum - unless you have a lot of spectrum, its not an easy fit and migration. AT&T 'needs' to manage its voice/data.
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| said by yabos :Which is why it's AT&T not the iPhone that has the problem. Their network is not designed to handle the iPhone in a lot of places. I disagree with that. I can make a call to my office (on my iphone) and someone else standing right next (on a blackberry bold) can call the same number for a conference call and I get disconnected but not the person using the bold. It's definitely not just AT&T. The iphone is subpar in sound quality as well. | |
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| Re: shhh...... That makes me glad that I have the HTC Tilt.
It has excellent audio quality. Comparing it to the Treo 800w is a joke (Treo's speaker has to stay low otherwise its clipping/distorted). Headset is better - but the audio codec on the Treo 800w (Sprint) makes the sound noise free (no background noise), but also highly synthesized, and if I'm not mistaken, either the phone and/or headset is half duplex, causing many issues during a conference call.
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| Agreed we went overseas, popped in a SIM card and worked great..
AT&T has a crappy network..
VZW will have LTE starting this year.. AT&T will complete HSPDA upgrades in 2011.. They just want VZW to do the upgrade so they can let users roam on it while they build a pittance of a LTE network as slowly as they can. I hope VZW rapes them on roaming charges.
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Those networks are not compatible.
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| said by NOCMan :Agreed we went overseas, popped in a SIM card and worked great.. AT&T has a crappy network.. VZW will have LTE starting this year.. AT&T will complete HSPDA upgrades in 2011.. They just want VZW to do the upgrade so they can let users roam on it while they build a pittance of a LTE network as slowly as they can. I hope VZW rapes them on roaming charges. I'll second that. But, then again, EVERYTHING AS&S is inferior. (Altho, regrettably, i did purchase a set of cordless phones from costco (receipt in hand in case they should die a typical AT&T death) and that is so far so good). | |
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| Re: I don't agree about the upgrades.... said by ptrowski :People forget that there is a contract piece to getting the subsidized phones. I wanted a 3G and was not eligible so I paid full price. It is what you do when you want something out of contract. AT&T/Apple set a bad precedence the first time around, but a contract is a contract. Sometimes it costs more money to be on the bleeding edge. If you really need the toy NOW, you have to pay to play. I agree. They did set a precedence the first time but remember that customers paid much more for the original iPhone. It was not subsidized as the 3G and 3G S. I paid $599 for my first iPhone and while I extended my contract two years when I activated it I did not pay the subsidized price.
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| said by ptrowski :People forget that there is a contract piece to getting the subsidized phones. I wanted a 3G and was not eligible so I paid full price. It is what you do when you want something out of contract. AT&T/Apple set a bad precedence the first time around, but a contract is a contract. Sometimes it costs more money to be on the bleeding edge. If you really need the toy NOW, you have to pay to play. Maybe AT&T should do 1 year contracts on iPhones instead of 2 years.
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| Re: I don't agree about the upgrades.... said by ptrowski :said by Rob :said by ptrowski :People forget that there is a contract piece to getting the subsidized phones. I wanted a 3G and was not eligible so I paid full price. It is what you do when you want something out of contract. AT&T/Apple set a bad precedence the first time around, but a contract is a contract. Sometimes it costs more money to be on the bleeding edge. If you really need the toy NOW, you have to pay to play. Maybe AT&T should do 1 year contracts on iPhones instead of 2 years. Why though? I don't see any reason as to why they should make any exceptions at all. A phone is a phone no matter who makes it. Because the iPhone has given AT&T a huge boost in customer base and if they want to keep riding this wave, they better make better accommodations, or come 2010, Apple will take their phone to another carrier - and so will the millions of iPhone users.
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| Re: I don't agree about the upgrades.... said by ptrowski :said by Rob :Because the iPhone has given AT&T a huge boost in customer base and if they want to keep riding this wave, they better make better accommodations, or come 2010, Apple will take their phone to another carrier - and so will the millions of iPhone users. They very well might, but to me it would be a bad business practice to the rest of their customers that don't use an iPhone. I could see that creating a big problem with them. Problems never seem to have stopped AT&T before 
On a serious note, it could turn out to be better for everyone. The iPhone is already forcing AT&T to upgrade their network, and even bring their data price down (rumored). Other changes could impact other phone users, in a positive way.
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| Re: I don't agree about the upgrades.... Wow. And I suppose in your opinion we should assuage the aches and pains of a giant, ultra-wealthy corporation the likes of which we haven't seen since Ma Bell, is that right?
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I just want to know if I pay the higher price will my contract still get extended? This what AT&T has done in the past.
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| Re: I don't agree about the upgrades....� said by kfsutops :I don't have a problem with concept of being under contract and all that jazz..I don't like it, but I can't complain. I just want to know if I pay the higher price will my contract still get extended? This what AT&T has done in the past. if they do, then att does have issues. normally, you should be able to purchase a phone outright and just flip phones. you have not agreed to take a subsidized phone (which is why the contract is there in the first place). honestly, if att did that, i would tell them to shove it.
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| Re: I don't agree about the upgrades.... said by kfsutops :I bet you AT&T tries to add another two years to your contract if you pay at full price (not getting any subsidized, reduced price). Noone seems to be asking this question. If I pay the full price because I don't qualify for the reduced price will they extend my contract? I bet so. They tried to do that when I returned a phone for warranty work. AT&T are the scumbags of the earth. But then again, Apple isn't much better. They did when I bought the 3G. I asked them about how that could be, and they said that it was the way it was done with the iPhone.but have since changed it. I told them I should then receive a credit since I did not get the susidized price but my contract was extended. We are still going round and round.
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| I have to agree with this. If you under contract you need to wait. Eligible customers should be able to get the discount. Otherwise you pay full retail price for the device. It does not matter if one thinks its too expensive, its a brand new PDA device by Apple....think about that for a second....APPLE......PDA....those two combined would = very expensive. | |
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1 edit | I want it now! I really hate it when people continually whine that the are not treated fairly and will continue to kick and scream until they get what they want. A contract is a contract and if people want the freedom to have the option to upgrade every year then pay the full price of the device and move on. Call me an AT&T fanboy if you want, but any other carrier would treat their customers in just the same way or even worse. | |
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| The problem I dont have a problem with the fact ATT isnt going to give Iphone 3g users a break on the price. I can see a problem with the time frame in which a user is allowed to upgrade at the current pricing.
I bought my phone last july as many did. It tells me i can upgrade in december. Im fine with that, I dont really need the new phone.
However, I have a buddy that got his phone around the same time and it says he can upgrade on july 19th or so.
WTF, No reason for the different dates. Neither of us had the first gen iphone, We neither missed a payment.
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| Re: The problem said by gopnick :Yeah, I upgraded after my wife and I'm eligible before she is. :-/ AT&T definitely has some systems problems. It has to due with ARPU in the system. I bet your line is the master on the account so you are generating a TON of revenue on that number which means you will get special treatment when it comes to discounts. That is how it works in the ATT system, the one who is billing the most money usually can upgrade a lot earlier. It's an odd system but ATT put it in place because they wanted to reward people who spend a lot. Problem was the 2ndary lines on ATT are getting screwed because they are only billing out 9.99 plus whatever else you have on that line a month so it can't generate near as much as the main line that is billing 60+ a month.
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| The Ipone is not everything nor their only problem. I am sitting here in my office with my Tilt plugged in charging watching it drift in and out of network coverage, from 2 bars to zero. FFS Its like plaing craps.
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| Re: Curiouser and curiouser! said by spewak :Isn't is curious how Apple is producing options for their phone so fast that At&t cannot keep up. Or is it that they will not keep up? I believe they (At&t) know Apple is going to dump them as the exclusive carrier once their contract is up in ott'10. Verizon is up next and appears to have all their apples in the cart, so to speak! You forgot to mention that Verizon turned its back on the iphone the first time around. Also Verizon is notorious for disabling functions on its phones. Verizon is not the open network everything thinks it is. And LTE is not going to happen for some time, regardless of press releases from Verizon. Sprint and their Xohm fiasco proved that 4G is harder to roll out than expected. | |
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| Re: Curiouser and curiouser! said by iansltx :The only smartphone Verizon has crippled was the HTC Toch Pro. Other than that they don't mess wth their high-end stuff, especially now. You are right. Verizon just sells a different version of the product with less features (but that's not crippling the phone). | |
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| Negative PR With AT&T receiving such a wave of negative PR they need to do something. I think silence at this point will only be more detrimental to the company. With the upgraded prices for current iPhone 3G being $200 more then new and qualified upgrade. I think this price should have been limited to a $100. If and when Apple opens up the iPhone to different carriers in the United States, AT&T will lose millions of subscribers, and is failing on all fronts at this point. AT&T is also failing to creating a loyal customer base, which will hurt their bottom-line in the long run. People that are current iPhone users if the iPhone was available for Sprint tomorrow would you switch? I'm using Sprint as example because most would switch to Verizon because of the better network. I am thinking because of the negative PR, people would choose to switch to a smaller carrier at a cheaper monthly rate. I pre-ordered a new iPhone 3GS with the extra $200 premium. I am also waiting to see how AT&T will respond to the negative PR. I can say that if the iPhone does come out for a different carrier. I'll consider paying the ETF on two phones to switch at this point. | |
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| Re: Negative PR They will bend or they will break. Its up to them. They dont really have much of a choice. They can offer everyone a set date of July 19th to upgrade if they wish or they can simply do nothing and in the end lose phone sells and probably being exclusive carrier of the iphone after its all said and done.
Verison or any other company would be happy to take on the iphone at this point and they will allow us the use of the options on the phone to boot.
I seen an article that stated they had a petition of nearly 10k people who signed busting ATTs balls over the upgrade situation.
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| . So glad I don't have a damn iphone. Takes forever to do anything on it. I always see my friends just sitting there waiting for things to load. Not to mention always being low on battery lol.
But yea its time for verizon or sprint to get the iphone. AT&T has been a pain in the a-ss.
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With double the ram I'm all over the new one, now you can have a ton of mobile substrates with now lag. I'm not a fanboy by any means, but I was easily won over once I started using the phone. Credit where credit is due, apple did a damn nice job overall with this phone. There are plenty of area's where you can criticize the iphone, so pick one that is actually true. | |
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| why att does things like this lol :) lol here is my story, i bought iphone 3g like about a week ago, and i saw they came out with new iphone 3gs so i went back to see if i can get the 150 price different between the 299 i paid and the new 149 price. The sales who helped me before trying to give me back 150, but his manager only allow 100, so i call ATT try to see if i can get credit that way, they said even tho the refund should be 150 but it is up to the store to give w.e the hell they want to pay back and told me i can bring the phone back return it since it is has 30days full refund on it and buy it again for the price i want, only down side to this is i lost the number i got already + 36 activation fee and they get used phone. I mean it is a lose-lose situation, why wouldnt the damn att store just give back what they should. | |
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But I think the Apple relationship, assuming AT&T is able to and wants to nurture and continue it, is great for AT&T. Apple is not one to settle for sub par consumer experiences and might just drag AT&T, kicking an screaming, to the forefront of technology and speed and turn it into a market leader instead of a follower. | |
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| I'll bet the investors have iPhone... All of a sudden even investors are up in arms, feeling entitled to get special treatment with the iphone by getting a full discount of $400 rather than $200 as would be somewhat nromal halfway through the contract.
Heck, usually carriers only subsidize a phone about $300 (for a smartphone) or $150 (for a regular phone) over two years, with a $75 subsidy at one year. AT&T is probably making a tidy profit selling iPhones at full retail since an iPod Touch of similar capacity costs about $300 less. Still, a $200 per year subsidy is no small potatoes. Though the $10 per month data plan fee increase over the first-gen iphone means that the net discount is $80ish per year, in line with other AT&T phones.
OTOH, other smartphones don't get a $200 discount per year and they also need a $30 package for data.
Which gets me thinking...seems like the 1-year-into-the-contract pricing for the 3gs is about what you'd pay for a comparable first-gen iphone after the price cut. Since a new iPhone comes out every year, the math works out.
So why is everyone whining, other than being entitled Apple brats? Apple isn't giving away the farm on this one but nobody's getting screwed. If you're *that* worried about money, sell your iphone. I'm sure it'll bring in at least $200 unless you've abused it, so you effectively get the same price as new contract buyers. Simple! | |
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Jersey City, NJ
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| how I got my Iphone I went to the stupid store, bought a 16gb iphone paid 299, requested the cheapest available plan available, had the service for 31 days, then canceled paid the 170 bucks, and I got to keep my damned phone.
Better yet I took the sim card out of my company's crackberry and that's what I've been using for the longest. To make a long story short, I refuse to pay ATT's ridiculous prices the only reason why I'm using the iphone is because someone else is paying the bill.
Btw, look to the newsgroups and you can find the the 2G and 3G 3.0 software.
Already updated my phone... no big difference between the 2.2.1 and 3.0 except for the cut/copy/paste and the | |
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RiseAbove
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| Re: how I got my Iphone said by flyingjoey :I went to the stupid store, bought a 16gb iphone paid 299, requested the cheapest available plan available, had the service for 31 days, then canceled paid the 170 bucks, and I got to keep my damned phone. Better yet I took the sim card out of my company's crackberry and that's what I've been using for the longest. To make a long story short, I refuse to pay ATT's ridiculous prices the only reason why I'm using the iphone is because someone else is paying the bill. Btw, look to the newsgroups and you can find the the 2G and 3G 3.0 software. Already updated my phone... no big difference between the 2.2.1 and 3.0 except for the cut/copy/paste and the ATT never billed you the difference in cost from the 299 to the full retail for canceling early?
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AT&T Dead Quiet After PR Hell Week
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AT&T is just screwed up
