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join:2008-03-18
West Bloomfield, MI | Sucks for California Sucks for any of you in California that wanted FiOS | |
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pspcrazy
Anime Freak
join:2008-02-06
San Diego, CA | Re: Sucks for California Not really considering that i'm in an ATT zone so i can't get it anyways  | |
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tad2020
join:2007-07-17
Orange, CA | Re: Sucks for California Ditto here, but I seemed to have been skipped for uVerse as well and they'll never deploy it to my office as that would eat away from their overpriced T1 business.
This just sucks, AT&T has terrible support for their mediocre services. | |
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join:2008-08-08
Washington, IL | Re: Sucks for California Verizon can't justify installing an expensive FiOS system for a few scattered farmers in the LA area. Why don't you all just move, instead of complaining?
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babystars_13
join:2009-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN | No Surprise Verizon is slowing the deployment so they spend the least amount before Frontier takes over. | |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| Re: No Surprise said by babystars_13  :Verizon is slowing the deployment so they spend the least amount before Frontier takes over. This area is unaffected by the divestiture to Frontier Communications. | |
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join:2008-04-14
Chino Hills, CA
| Re: No Surprise said by cdru :said by babystars_13 :Verizon is slowing the deployment so they spend the least amount before Frontier takes over. This area is unaffected by the divestiture to Frontier Communications. From my understandings they are trying to get rid of all the west coast sooner or later. | |
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| ftth_freak
join:2005-06-17
Ballwin, MO | Re: Problem is users not signing up - so build-out slows Its called RED-LINING....cable companies arent allowed to do it, neither should the phone companies.... | |
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join:2000-07-12
San Diego, CA
| Re: Problem is users not signing up - so build-out slows The cable and phone companies now operate under a statewide franchise with CA. The local control was taken away a couple years ago when the Legislature changed the law to allow AT&T/Verizon to offer TV service. So there is now no requirement that a company (either cable or phone) offer service to all the residents and companies within their footprint anymore. | |
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Bit
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1 edit | Anyone familiar with where Verizon has deployed here in California knows that VZ isn't redlining. Some of the poorest service areas were the first to get FiOS (eg Beaumont, Lake Elsinore etc). | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: Problem is users not signing up - so build-out slows said by Bit :Anyone familiar with where Verizon has deployed here in California knows that VZ isn't redlining. Some of the poorest service areas were the first to get FiOS (eg Beaumont, Lake Elsinore etc). only sometimes you have to go through the poor areas to GET TO the affluent ones.
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Bit
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00000 | Re: Problem is users not signing up - so build-out slows Not in this case. | |
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rit56
join:2000-12-01
New York, NY | I would guess the collapse of the economy factors into people not signing up for FIOS in California as Verizon had hoped. | |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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| Re: Problem is users not signing up - so build-out slows said by rit56 :I would guess the collapse of the economy factors into people not signing up for FIOS in California as Verizon had hoped. The downturn has hurt Calif more than most areas, so your assumption in most likely valid. | |
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| jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04
USA | Great service. MAybe it should be CHEAPER if they want to sign up more people? Maybe they really need to advertise and inform customers of the benefits? | |
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Bit
Premium
join:2009-02-19
00000 | Re: Problem is users not signing up - so build-out slows Customers know the benefits and don't give a crap. As you mention it's price and price is king. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | California economy is hurting + many foreclosures I don't think VZ will be in a rush to deploy into areas that are being foreclosed. | |
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paule123
join:2002-07-25
Cleveland, OH
| FEMA money is being used to repair a horse trail ... "Due to the storms that occurred in December 2004 and January 2005 portions of the City's hiking/equestrian trails were damaged. The City of Walnut had been approved to receive approximately $147,000 from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) in reimbursement for repairs to these public improvements. The City of Walnut appropriated $127,000 for the repair of the hiking/equestrian trails damaged during these storms." | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI | Re: FEMA money is being used to repair a horse trail ... Yeah, so what's the remaining $20K used for, that's what I want to know!  | |
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Roflmao
join:2000-06-08
Glendale, CA | FIOS Oh wells, I wasn't expecting Verizon to come out to Burbank area anyway. I am happy with Time Warner cable, though I do wish I had fios.
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Bit
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join:2009-02-19
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2 edits | Southern California is doing very well FiOS-wise We've seen very widespread FiOS deployment, even to more remote communities. I'm not surprised at all that the area served my the Register newspaper is seeing slowing deployment...there is little Verizon service area left that doesn't already have FiOS.
But I'm not surprised that they are focusing on marketing. Particularly with HSI, Verizon has already taken a number substantial price increases (at least here in Huntington Beach) while major competitors Comcast and Time Warner hiked speeds, expanded HDTV and pushed aggressive triple play deals. | |
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join:2003-05-26
New York, NY
| Re: Southern California is doing very well FiOS-wise For whatever it's worth, Verizon's Fios deployment in its service territory within the city of Los Angeles, such as Brentwood, Westwood, Pacific Palisades, the north San Fernando Valley (San Fernando, Mission Hills, Granada Hills, Sylmar, etc.) has all been but non-existent. So much for the statewide franchise agreement.
I'm still shocked that even in high-end Pacific Palisades, much of the west end of community only has access to DSL speeds of up to 1.5 mb down, and no Fastpath.
Yes, Time-Warner and Charter (Charter serves a very small portion of Los Angeles adjacent to Pacific Palisades that's part of their Malibu system) at least both offer higher speed options to Palisades residents.
I know this as one of my relatives lives in the Palisades and I experience her slow DSL speeds when I deadhead there for my trips.
True, we have an economic downturn, yet in the Pacific Palisades, the downturn is not as severe as in the Inland Empire. Even Orange County is holding up reasonably well. | |
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| alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA
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1 edit | said by Bit :We've seen very widespread FiOS deployment, even to more remote communities. I'm not surprised at all that the area served my the Register newspaper is seeing slowing deployment...there is little Verizon service area left that doesn't already have FiOS. California is mostly PacBell or AT&T now, but the areas served by Verizon had their chance to get FiOS. If you wanted it and had enough subscribers, you could have gotten on the Verizon list. We here in SCPD, Ca. asked and got FiOS, but I don't even think we have 50% FiOS subscribers. I think here it is two fold, most people want fast low cost Internet, so the bottom tier of FiOS is all they get. Which is the same as the Cable Companies. The other reason is no TV yet, so Verizon is missing a big piece. So Verizon has to work on their TV offering. | |
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Bit
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1 edit | Re: Southern California is doing very well FiOS-wise They offered low cost internet. When we first got it here in Huntington Beach, 5/2 was $30/mo. They've taken huge increases since then both in HSI and video. For example, the lowest HSI rate has gone up 50% since deployment, from $30/mo to $45/mo. That's crazy, especially for budget minded people who are quite happy with $18/mo DSL that is price locked for 2 years. | |
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| boe_d
join:2003-10-12
Los Angeles, CA
1 edit | I have a client with a T1 in 90272 - corner of Sunset and PCH. I've run the tests and for some reason even though they come out within spec the performance seems miserable.
I would love FIOS but it isn't available - wish I could find their deployment schedule.
Anyone here using fixed wireless or something of the like? Bonded T1 is too expensive.
I could use fast upload and download speeds. Cable doesn't offer the upload speeds we require.
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The Gnome
join:2008-01-27
USA | I I've been waiting for that cr@p(FIOS) since 2005.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: I said by The Gnome :I've been waiting for that cr@p(FIOS) since 2005. At least you got HOPE, unlike those of us in qworst areas.
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halfelite
join:2007-09-11
| customers I bet they are waiting for the charter mess to blow over and see how many more customers they get from it. A big chunk around me is charter/fios. And a big chuck of people have fios internet but not tv as tv was not offered in the beginning.
I dont even think Verizon's footprint is that big in California. Only market they have is what they took over from the GTE merger years ago. Which was a lot of small chunks here and there. | |
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lightning10
join:2008-09-03
Whittier, CA | Not suprised I am in the part of Whittier that doesn't have FIOS only Charter Communications and Verizon DSL. It dosnt surprise me cause this area sucks anyways. | |
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
Premium
join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
clubs:
| Correction Should Be Noted So this piece cites the Orange County Register blog regarding the stoppage of FiOS in Orange County, but then goes on to cite a notice on the City of Walnut's home page, which is in Los Angeles County. One has zip to do with the other as L.A. and Orange are two vastly different counties that are run significantly different from each other.
Secondly, the City of Brea is in N. Orange County and is closer to L.A. The piece on the Register's blog about FiOS in Brea may as well be talking about the service in Rochester, NY. LMAO.
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| Re: Correction Should Be Noted For whatever it's worth, Verizon/GTE serves a very, very small portion of the city of Brea.
The boundaries are basically north and west of the intersection of Central and Puente to the La Habra city limits.
That neighborhood is assigned to the Verizon central office in La Habra on N. Idaho St., with La Habra prefixes and an area code of 562.
The rest of Brea is served by Pacific Bell Telephone Company, dba AT&T California from their central office on Orange Ave., near Imperial Hwy. and Brea Blvd.
For now, no Fios in the Verizon served section of Brea, and limited U-Verse availabilty from AT&T in the Olinda Ranch development on the east side of Brea. | |
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kd6cae
P2p Shouldn't Be A Crime
join:2001-08-27
Lancaster, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
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| Hoping FIOS continues to expand I've wanted to get FIOS since it came out in late 2004 I believe. Even now, FIOS is so close yet so far from my grasp. It's available in my city, but only in newer developments and that's all! This means much of the city still has to suffer with old DSL, and that's unfortunate, because I know many would jump at the chance to get FIOS, including myself, if only Verizon would make it available city wide! I hope they'll expand soon, so I can get FIOS internet and dump TWC cable who don't seem to be interested in upgrading speeds to their users. The demand for FIOS is there, if only they'd roll out the service more! | |
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join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| based upon reality california is a step closer to bankruptcy.. until things look somewhat better.. i'd spend billions elsewhere too. the northeast is becoming more competitive and we know that the kind of offering comcast has with a 250gb soft limit, verizon can breathe easy...
i wonder if one day we'll look back at these days and find out that there was collussion between telco and the cable industry for reselling video content (buy on the cheap and resell $$ high $$) in exchange for not tearing the cable providers a new one in broadband delployments. | |
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firefox
Premium
join:2000-12-03
San Jose, CA
| So if Southern California is slowing down... ... what about the Bay Area? No Verizon phone service here! I guess Fios is nothing but a dream.
I live about a 1 minute walk from one of Cisco's buildings, yet no fiber service. Oooh, the irony.
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join:2009-04-23
La Palma, CA
| Time Warner I'd love to get FIOS if/when it comes out, but I'm in an AT&T area and just started getting flyers for U-Verse TV. I think Time Warner has something to do with why people aren't signing up with Fios, same speed, same price, for the internet part anyways. Just don't offer the higher end packages like Fios that very few would need or pay extra for, especially in this economy. I"m in La Palma, CA by the way. | |
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| fios is fantastic... sad to have to move away from it Just a note from a person in Seattle who's had FIOS 15mbps down *AND UP* for over a year. It is fantastic and worth the $130 a month (I buy the business class to my home).
Previously had Comcast Biz Cable but the speeds still don't go as high on the upstream for that price point.
We have to move to Burbank, which is how I found this thread. I am sooooooo sad that you don't have FIOS, it's going to be like doing dialup again.
I tell you, FIOS is worth every single solitary penny and for me and my servers it's been strong 365/24/7 with never ever a need of any customer service calls.
Just wanted to let you know that it is all they say it is... and fully worth kissing up to Verizon to get it in your area. | |
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Verizon Slows California FiOS Deployment
Problem is users not signing up - so build-out slows