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Oinktastic

join:2005-08-24
Scarborough

Just wondering...

Does your $35/month price include the modem rental fee?

Also, have you considered a Bell wholesaler like Teksavvy, Velcom, Acanac, Caneris, Ebox etc..?
killiar

join:2008-11-22
Innisfil, ON
·Bell Sympatico
·Rogers Portable In..

Re: Just wondering...

The $35.00 a month does include the modem rental fee.
I have considered Teksavvy and Acanac. However the speeds were a bit of a turnoff for me. Since it says 5mbps download. I'm getting 6mbps, I don't know if I want to drop 1mbps (as little as that sounds ,I'm paranoid).

Teksavvy looked great to me. Especially their unlimited / 200GB a month limit (but Bell is trying to change that).

Either way, at the time I like Bell personally, until they pull a move that rips me off (it's probably coming).

Oinktastic

join:2005-08-24
Scarborough
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·3 Web

Re: Just wondering...

That's a decent deal, as long as it's not just a promotion and also depending how much usage you actually need in a month.

You're actually on a 7Mbit fastpath sync profile, but with the 15% PPPoE overhead, you're left with around 6Mbit. That's the reality of DSL speeds. The same goes for the upload. You're synced at around 1Mbit, possibly a tiny bit less, but after PPPoE overhead, you're left with ~700Kbit.

20ms ping to local servers is about what you should be getting. If it's consistently low like that, I'm happy for you. Often you only see really consistent pings like that on very underused portions of Bell's network. They tend to oversubscribe in many areas, and then claim 'congestion'.

If you notice nightly slowdowns or throttling, that's just Bell's little way of saying "I love you"
killiar

join:2008-11-22
Innisfil, ON

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Re: Just wondering...

Thanks for the response
langez

join:2009-11-18
I find it funny how about 4-5 years ago a 3Meg connection was considered to be "fast" but now 5Meg isn't good enough for people....

Oinktastic

join:2005-08-24
Scarborough
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·3 Web


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Re: Just wondering...

said by langez See Profile :

I find it funny how about 4-5 years ago a 3Meg connection was considered to be "fast" but now 5Meg isn't good enough for people....
3Meg WAS fast 4-5 years ago. The available content did not require anywhere near as much bandwidth as it does today. Youtube et al. were just getting started and web sites were much smaller and simpler compared to today's interactive and media-laden beasts.

Plus, throttling makes my 5Meg connection feel much slower than yesterday's 3Meg connection... Not to mention that I have 4 internet users in my household now, whereas it used to be 1-2.

Also, I'm noticing more and more of my neighbours are getting connections as well. Every time someone else signs up, that means less pipe for your data, given Bhell's policy of neglecting to upgrade their equipment.

Sorry for ruining your review, killiar.

um yeah

@videotron.ca

"Definitely a MUST HAVE"

Well that statement is far from being the truth if you live in a place with no other alternatives.

Maybe it's a "MUST HAVE" if that's all you can get and if you can get it for about 30$ and grandfathered unlimited.
killiar

join:2008-11-22
Innisfil, ON

Re: "Definitely a MUST HAVE"

Beats Rogers imo

Chuck Carlso

@bell.ca

Ever heard of overhead?

It's impossible to get 6.8 megabits per second on a 7 meg line no matter how close to the central office you are. The most in theory is around 6.3.
killiar

join:2008-11-22
Innisfil, ON

Re: Ever heard of overhead?

I will post a screenshot of my speed test for you.



As you can see, I am achieving 6.84Mbps download and 0.91Mbps upload. 26ms ping.

It is not "impossible"

Oinktastic

join:2005-08-24
Scarborough
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·3 Web


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Re: Ever heard of overhead?

said by killiar See Profile :

I will post a screenshot of my speed test for you.

...As you can see, I am achieving 6.84Mbps download and 0.91Mbps upload. 26ms ping.

It is not "impossible"
Actually, it is. If that speed test is accurate, you're on at least an 8Meg profile, which is why you're able to download at 6.8Mbit.

Calculate it yourself: 8Mbit - 15% overhead for PPPoE. Hint: I already gave you the answer

Also, a 7Mbit profile would leave you with about 5.95Mbit after overhead.

Also, those speed tests are sometimes inaccurate, so I wouldn't trust a single snapshot.
killiar

join:2008-11-22
Innisfil, ON

Re: Ever heard of overhead?

I'll post another when I get home

however. Even though I may be on that profile. I'm on a 7meg plan.

Either way. Bell is the best.

Oinktastic

join:2005-08-24
Scarborough
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·3 Web

Re: Ever heard of overhead?

said by killiar See Profile :

Either way. Bell is the best.
Oh God! I just threw up a little...
acrufox

join:2004-07-14
Canada

Re: Ever heard of overhead?

lol!

I threw up a LOT. Oh wait, I have H1N1, nevermind :>
killiar

join:2008-11-22
Innisfil, ON
·Bell Sympatico
·Rogers Portable In..

I switched from Rogers. I'm not going back to them... Ever again.
I've always been happy for Bell for about 20 years with my phone service. They've made me even happier with my internet service.

I was looking up TekSavvy, it looked alright since the bandwidth cap is very high, but the speeds are waaayyy too slow for me. Maybe Bell will give them faster profiles soon.

That Bell Entertainment Fibre internet looks nice too. I'll have to look into that if it expands.

Thankfully, Bell just increased my bandwidth to 150GB, so I'm a happy camper now

twistedlemon

@bell.ca

Re: Ever heard of overhead?

may be you special, but there is no such plans on bell site
»www.bell.ca/shopping/PrsShpInt_I···Dsl.page
killiar

join:2008-11-22
Innisfil, ON
·Bell Sympatico
·Rogers Portable In..

Re: Ever heard of overhead?

said by twistedlemon :

may be you special, but there is no such plans on bell site
»www.bell.ca/shopping/PrsShpInt_I···Dsl.page
If you are referring to my 7Mbps plan, I'm on a Bell Performance grandfathered plan. As far as I'm aware, it has been moved to 6Mbps in Ontario, 7 still in Quebec.

I ordered Bell before they made the plan switch, and they left me on that plan. One thing that I really love about Bell! They continue to amaze me.

killar2

@gc.ca

Re: Ever heard of overhead?

yup our Dad sure runs bell well

kilar2 brother of killa.....

Bell has to make moremoremoremore profits!!

auditors are sitting Idle ... enter your IP for a free audit
Bell managers negative profit excempt
ZZink

join:2002-06-16
Etobicoke

Lucky

You are the luckiest mofo ever... bell is the best?! LOLZ
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