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shawn744
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join:2001-02-16
Saddle River, NJ
clubs:

welcome

Hey man, i¡¯m glad you¡¯re enjoying your OOL system. I too had cablevision until i cancelled and got DirecTV...it is cheaper than Cablevision but i¡¯m still paying around $120 a month for TV...when OOL comes out here in a few weeks i¡¯m going to be paying $85 for it (3 computers connected to main line)...i want it connected to the main line so it¡¯ll be faster...plus it¡¯ll be easier they can just install the lines where the computers are...web good luck with you service and have fun!
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SSidlov
Other Things On My Mind
Premium
join:2000-03-03
Pompton Lakes, NJ
·Optimum Online
·Cingular Wireless

Re: welcome

I would not waste the money by paying for 3 connections. When you go outside of OOL, the connections to the regular web are SLOW. You would be lucky to get 2.5mb. Most sites can't support more than 200-500K. Go buy a broadband router instead, and save $40+ a month.

3 computers can share the bandwidth just fine.

If you are going to be running servers, be aware that a 20 person game server is going to use half the upload bandwidth not just on the individual computer, but in the homes that share your CMTS and the 5(?) that will share the same bandwidth frequency. I don't think that they can set it up so that you share the bandwidth with your other PCs, but it wouldn't be buying what you think you're buying.
DOCIS is like a party line, All it will take is one of those people complaining about the speed for OOL to sniff you out and shut it down for breaking the TOS.

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Oct 6-9, 2001 - Toronto, Ont. Canada

shawn744
Premium
join:2001-02-16
Saddle River, NJ
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Re: welcome

That sounds reasonable...and a router will connect the computers wirelessly?...or with hardwires?? Because if i play a computer game or surf the web i kinda don't want it to use the connection of the other computers...in other words i don't want to split the speed of the connection from the main to make it slower at each computer...if that's what it does.
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SSidlov
Other Things On My Mind
Premium
join:2000-03-03
Pompton Lakes, NJ
·Optimum Online
·Cingular Wireless

Re: welcome

said by shawn744:
That sounds reasonable...and a router will connect the computers wirelessly?...or with hardwires??

Whatever you want. Wireless is much more expensive since you need expensive NIC cards and an expensive router, and the security isn't that good -- drive by network stealing, so they say. Also different routers have different distances. If you have all Windows, there are some 'iffy' networks that work via your power outlets, I wouldn't use them unless your home is relatively new and you are sure that the outlets have a working ground and there are no crossovers anywhere. Check out the hardware forums.

said by shawn744:

Because if i play a computer game or surf the web i kinda don't want it to use the connection of the other computers...in other words i don't want to split the speed of the connection from the main to make it slower at each computer...if that's what it does.

There is no allocation of bandwidth, there can be congestion, but usually it would take more than 3 computers to do that to a significant degree. I don't think that you are going to make it unbearable for anyone on the router, unless you do a lot of OOL FTP downloads which is downloading a 64mb file to see if you can do it in a minute or less. If you have all three doing it at the same time, well then you would be splitting the bandwidth for that moment. Most of the time bandwidth is not doing anything. I have three computers here, and we all use the network at the same time. There's not that much information being sent up and down in a game or a web page, even if you're shopping a catalog on the store that is very graphically intensive, and it the network is fast, it will be ready to take TCPIP packets from the next computer. Again, most slowdown or unresponsiveness is going to be outside of OOL's network and any home network you may have.

With a really good wireless set you could put the cable modem at the first split no matter where it was. Wireless would allow you if you are using laptops, to work where you like, not where the computer happened to be. In my case, I hardwired since two computers are in the same room, and one is in the family room. It was much cheaper and we have extra ports in each room (and some very long cables) if we want to work at the dining room table with a laptop.

No matter what, you can always add the additional connections if you find that you are unhappy. A good wireless setup with cards would be snapped up on ebay.
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Oct 6-9, 2001 - Toronto, Ont. Canada

shawn744
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join:2001-02-16
Saddle River, NJ
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Hey! :-)

Well, i agree with you...some people that want to run servers wouldn't like OOL that much because of the no port 80/server rule...AND the pricing...i have 2 lines of OOL ($55/mo each)....sucks...but at least i don't have to suffer under the SB4100/SB4200 and Linksys router problem...enjoy your BB. -shawn
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St0ney

join:2001-02-25
uranus

Re: Hey! :-)

cool
UrScrewed86

join:2000-11-26
Edison, NJ
clubs:
Don't you mean $50 a month? Since you have direct tv???
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shawn744
Premium
join:2001-02-16
Saddle River, NJ
clubs:

Re: Hey! :-)

Don't know...don't really care... i get charged $55 instead of $50...go figure.
fletchma

join:2000-08-14
Ringwood, NJ
What is the LinkSys problem?? I just got OOL in my neighborhood, and can't wait to cut the cord on Verizon. Only problem is that I need the LinkSys.

shawn744
Premium
join:2001-02-16
Saddle River, NJ
clubs:

Re: Hey! :-)

hey fletch...if you go to the ool forum (»OptimumOnline) you'll see many threads on the Motorola/Linksys confiction. If you have a Motorola SB 3100, 4100, or 4200, buying a Linksys Wired OR wireless router, will slow your connection down as much as 50%....if you HAVE to use a router, go with a different modem. Example: Terayon Terajet 110...(unless they have a newer one now)...or you could go with a Toshiba cable modem. I don't know about linksys cable modems, how good they are and stuff. Bottom line, if you're going to get a linksys router don't get a motorola SB xx00 cable modem. Good Luck.
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United We Stand - The world shall remember the events of September 11, 2001

vader5

join:2002-03-19
Champaign, IL

Bickering

More people complaining about 9999/1000 for $30/month. Does anyone else see the irony? come on now

Barney Google

@verizon.n

Another point of view

They're not complaining Vader. Just trying to optimize their connections like everyone else.

These are discussions within a closed community of OOL users, discussions that happen to be open to viewing by all. That's not quite fair to OOL users whose good fortune it is to happen to be in a "class" by themselves.

Try to think of it this way: Discussions about height among those living on the mountain top (OOL) will seem absurd to people living on the ground (everyone else. But don't fault even mountain-toppers for trying to go higher still!

And no, I don't have OOL.

vader5

join:2002-03-19
Champaign, IL

Re: Another point of view

Value for money....3stars?! gimme a break. The guys post strays toward the negative throughout.

no1ukn0w
Whats This?

join:2002-01-24
Boerne, TX

pricing

I personally don't see how anyone could complain about those speeds even at $70+/month...

and the comment about people discussing within the group. Good point but doesnt make sense, considering OOL is a public company that competes with others. No other company in the nation offers those speeds at that price.
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2002-06-11 15:30:39 EST: 206 / 33 --- my isp says there is no problem. 512/256 plan.

gigahurtz
Premium
join:2001-10-20
Palm Coast, FL
clubs:
·Earthlink Cable Mo..
·VoicePulse

OOL users who complain are greedy

I'm so sick of seeing users of OOL complaining. Sure they are like everyone else, but in a sense there not. They recieve internet access for 30 bux a month and at speeds that is at most cases doubled of what 80% of us have. Some are paying 70+ dollars a month for DSL which is 1500/384 while OOL users are complaining because there speed is dropping to 2.5mb at peak hours. Gimme a break!

dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ

Re: OOL users who complain are greedy

Double? try 5 times faster down and 8 times faster up than most that are stuck with crappy capped speeds of 1500/128 or less.

Swordfish II
Watching A Dream
Premium
join:2002-05-12
Cloud 9

Ohhh man

Ohhh man yeah, I have directv dsl the 1500/128 package and i get 1307/100 for 50 bucks a month. They do have all that news server and email and webpage crap. But jeez who really cares about that stuff you can get that stufff from a dial-up provider. Everyone gets dsl for the speed, which you have an abundance of for a ver small price. Im SOOOOO JEALOUS

OptOnline-Sux

@optonline.net

Optimum Online capping People for no reason

They will probably end up capping you like they did to 1000's of their customers because they just can't handle the amount of usage people are putting on their switches. I know few people who got capped and we havn't ran any servers or anything to violate the TOS. We just use bandwith to play games online and video conferencing and stuff like that and I am told we can't even do that. So why am I paying $50 for just to check my email?

I WOULD STAY AWAY FROM THEM, THEIR SERVICE AND SUPPORT IS GOING DOWN. RIGHT NOW SPEED IS GOOD BUT WAIT TILL YOU USE GET CAPPED THEN YOU WILL HATE THEM TOO. I would never recommend them.

Just my 2¢.
robfwb

join:2001-01-07
Mary Esther, FL

arrgh

THATS IT im moving to the tri state area you OOL'ers have all the PHUN!!

Rob
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ

Re: arrgh

said by robfwb See Profile:
THATS IT im moving to the tri state area you OOL'ers have all the PHUN!!
LOL. anything fun you'd want to do would get your upload capped. Cablevisions idea of abuse is rather restrictive.
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