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| reply to Hall Re: Good thing I didn't get Dish yet
I got those prices from A)my DISH network bill and posted it verbatim as it is described in writing on the back of the bill. B)For Direct TV I have what you have -but not the $4.99 per each additional TV. Hence, for the same money, I'll come out ahead 1 receiver with programming ...Unless there's more fine print I'm missing.
PS. You answered my question which I posted in earnest: According to your info it was VIACOM who "pulled the plug" and if I had a way to stick it to them, I certainly would. Both companies are in the wrong however, because in no other business would the customers be involved in such a manner. Just bad business all around. |
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  Hall Premium,MVM join:2000-04-28 Dayton, OH
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| reply to Average_Joe Where'd you get those prices ??
Dish's Digital Home Advantage: (3) TVs, Top 120 package w/ locals = $44.99/month + $5.00 for 2nd receiver (receiver # 1 will be a dual-tuner). Total = $49.99 (»www.dishnetwork.com/images/getdi···rice.gif, »www.dishnetwork.com/content/getd···ex.shtml (fine print at bottom of page))
DirecTV: (3) TVs, Total Choice ("over 130 channels") w/ locals = $39.99/month + "$4.99/mo. for separate programming on second and each additional TV". Total = $49.97 (»www.directv.com/DTVAPP/NewHardwa···n&VID=DS)
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  Average_Joe
@mindspring.com | reply to Hall DISH: Digital Home plan with AT100, 2 Receivers (The second with not all the features as the first),+ Locals = 49.98 standard.
Direct TV: 3 Receivers, Same channels, + Locals = 39.99 Standard.
This is in Raleigh, NC. |
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| reply to jmn1207 "A one dollar refund is not chump change when you multiply that by the number of customers. That's almost ten million dollars for 36 hours of lost programming!"
Charlie, is that you posting in this forum? One dollar IS an insult. I'd rather them give $10 million to one lucky DISH viewer than insult me with a buck. Then he has the audacity to come on "Charlie Chat" and say we've had customers say "Forget the Viacom Channels, I'm going to pocket this dollar!" like he'd won the lottery. Let me put this way, if my own Grandmother gave me a dollar these days for my birthday, I'd tell her -like I'm telling Charlie now- keep the dollar and go buy yourself some dignity. |
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1 edit | reply to Average_Joe I don't know if Viacom encrypts their signals when they're sent out and then "authorized" broadcasters unlock them with their key... Even if they were not encrypted, Viacom and Dish have, or had, a contract and if it's no longer in place, Dish isn't allowed to re-transmit the signal.
I don't know why it's an issue unless you want to use it as an excuse to cancel. If Dish "pulled the plug" it's because they had to. Your PS explains your logic anyway... By the way, let us know how/where Dish is $10 higher than DTV. |
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  Average_Joe
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| reply to fantomposter All I want to know is who pulled the plug? Viacom says Dish Network pulled it's channels and Dish Network says Viacom legally prevented them from airing the channels. So which is it? If it's Dish, I'm definitely changing carriers. If it's viacom, I don't know what I'll do -they got me by the cahoonies 'cause they're mainly all we watch.
PS. Don't shed a tear for Dish ...They're not fighting for the little guy -They're fighting to line their pockets. They're already about $10 higher monthly than Direct TV which is why I'm probably going to switch carriers regardless of who pulled the channels. |
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  jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA
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| reply to rottnpup said by rottnpup : It's not Charlies standing up for what he thinks is right that irritates me.........its Charlies throwing me a $1 month credit on my $60 a month bill that does!
Our family has lost some of its most watched channels and $1 is nothing but an insult!
A one dollar refund is not chump change when you multiply that by the number of customers. That's almost ten million dollars for 36 hours of lost programming! Give your kids a ball and throw them outside. It wasn't even two full days. |
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  stateq2 J Dilla Premium join:2003-03-27 Jackson, MS
| reply to rottnpup said by rottnpup : It's not Charlies standing up for what he thinks is right that irritates me.........its Charlies throwing me a $1 month credit on my $60 a month bill that does!
Our family has lost some of its most watched channels and $1 is nothing but an insult!
Now if I understand this correctly Viacom originally wanted to raise the rate by 6%. Now Charlie is not giving me these channels anymore therefore crediting me $1 a month! (Must be what he is paying for the Viacom Channels because that is what he is crediting me for not having them)
Now 6% of $1 is 6 cents, now just two months ago Charlie raised my monthly rate by $3 a month! Now that would amount to only 2% of Charlies last monthly increase!
I am sorry but I am having a hard time understanding the numbers of logic here??
Dish network charges $45 a month for 180 channels. That's about $0.25 per channel....so IMO, they should be giving us about $2 off the bill each month (and free premium channels for a couple months would be a nice bonus ) -- My Webpage | Linux | Nope, we don't sell that here. | policy |
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| reply to fantomposter It's not Charlies standing up for what he thinks is right that irritates me.........its Charlies throwing me a $1 month credit on my $60 a month bill that does!
Our family has lost some of its most watched channels and $1 is nothing but an insult!
Now if I understand this correctly Viacom originally wanted to raise the rate by 6%. Now Charlie is not giving me these channels anymore therefore crediting me $1 a month! (Must be what he is paying for the Viacom Channels because that is what he is crediting me for not having them)
Now 6% of $1 is 6 cents, now just two months ago Charlie raised my monthly rate by $3 a month! Now that would amount to only 2% of Charlies last monthly increase!
I am sorry but I am having a hard time understanding the numbers of logic here?? |
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  mbernste Boosted Premium,MVM join:2001-06-30 Piscataway, NJ
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| reply to NPGMBR said by NPGMBR : If I remember correctly this did happen with Comcast a few years back but it was with Disney.
It wasn't Comcast, it was Time Warner. -- Sign the petition to sell TechTV to Comcast
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  NPGMBR
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| reply to fantomposter If I remember correctly this did happen with Comcast a few years back but it was with Disney. Ecostar is doing the right thing. Everytime we complain because cable companies are raising rates its because companies like Viacom try to force cable and satellite companies to carry stations they don't want to carry.
Additionally, everytime some major league athelete or popstar gets some outrageous contract with millions, the owner of that contract passes on the cost to cable and satellite companies who ultimately pass it onto customers.
Ecostar/DirectTV or whoever they are is doing the right thing. |
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 fantomposter Phantom Poster Premium join:2002-09-21 Independence, OH
| reply to ddavtian said by ddavtian : This is amazing, what kind of B.S. is this, we have DirecTV and saw the message scroll on number of channels, MTV, BET, etc. I think this is something that Dish will regret, people will drop them like a bad habit and they should. This is pure B.S.
Consider this. The contract that your provider, DirectTV has with Viacom will come up for negotiation next year. Based soley upon your attitude I hope Viacom hits DirectTV with a HUGE rate increase and that DirectTV passes it on to you.
Me, I will stand by Dish. They are fighting to keep my rates low. Nothing wrong with that. |
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