  pepperhead
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| Good thing I didn't get Dish yet
Been thinking of getting Dish network. The lose of MTV is no big thing but the others may make me put off my choice longer. -- "Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life." - Bennett Marco |
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| reply to pepperhead You can put off your choice now. But you have to remember that this might happen again with another supplier such as Comcast, DirectTV, Cox, and so on.
I think everyone is waiting for the court decision. If it goes in favor of DISH, then consumers win. If it goes Viacom's way, then be ready for the battles.
I hope DISH stays firm. |
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 fantomposter Phantom Poster Premium join:2002-09-21 Independence, OH
| reply to ddavtian said by ddavtian : This is amazing, what kind of B.S. is this, we have DirecTV and saw the message scroll on number of channels, MTV, BET, etc. I think this is something that Dish will regret, people will drop them like a bad habit and they should. This is pure B.S.
Consider this. The contract that your provider, DirectTV has with Viacom will come up for negotiation next year. Based soley upon your attitude I hope Viacom hits DirectTV with a HUGE rate increase and that DirectTV passes it on to you.
Me, I will stand by Dish. They are fighting to keep my rates low. Nothing wrong with that. |
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  jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA
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| reply to ddavtian said by ddavtian : This is amazing, what kind of B.S. is this, we have DirecTV and saw the message scroll on number of channels, MTV, BET, etc. I think this is something that Dish will regret, people will drop them like a bad habit and they should. This is pure B.S.
At least somebody has the guts to stand up to the likes of Viacom and their ilk. Dish Network has been extremely fair to its customer base with regards to prices over the last few years. This falls more on the hands of Viacom's insatiable greed rather than Dish Network's resistance to be extorted.
I hope Dish Network refuses to let Viacom back, ever. If they did this, I swear that I would start an account with Dish Networks for their basic package, even though my apartment faces northward and I would never be able to get a signal. Seriously. Go Dish Networks! |
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  Hall Premium,MVM join:2000-04-28 Dayton, OH
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| reply to moonpuppy I agree and as I mentioned in this post, »CBS takes offensive against Dish Network/EchoStar, it's just Dish Network's turn currently... It will be DirecTV's turn someday as well as different cable companies soon too. |
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  NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28 Arlington, VA
| reply to fantomposter If I remember correctly this did happen with Comcast a few years back but it was with Disney. Ecostar is doing the right thing. Everytime we complain because cable companies are raising rates its because companies like Viacom try to force cable and satellite companies to carry stations they don't want to carry.
Additionally, everytime some major league athelete or popstar gets some outrageous contract with millions, the owner of that contract passes on the cost to cable and satellite companies who ultimately pass it onto customers.
Ecostar/DirectTV or whoever they are is doing the right thing. |
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  pepperhead
join:2001-10-18 Bowling Green, KY
| reply to moonpuppy Part of the reason I was going to go to dish is to save money. One of the channels I really wanted to get was TV Land. I could care less about most of the other Viacom channels. If they move some of the channels up a tier or lower their prices I might get them anyway. I am tired of the media conglomerates making underwater basket weaving channels and using their power to force them on cable and satellite providers. -- "Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life." - Bennett Marco |
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  J D McDorce Premium join:2001-12-29 Westland, MI | reply to jmn1207 While I tend to agree, is anyone else wondering why Showtime and The Movie Channel haven't come into play in this little spat? While these premium channels are likely under a separate contract, both are owned by Viacom. |
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  Hall Premium,MVM join:2000-04-28 Dayton, OH | The channels in dispute are more or less "freebies" I think... Dish, DirecTV, and most cable companies offer channels like Nickleodean, Comedy Central, and the others affected by this in their "standard" (not cable's most basic, required) package. |
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  Niarlan Excelsior Premium join:2002-11-09 Manville, NJ
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| reply to moonpuppy Looks like the market is agree'ing with Dish
Looks like the stock market is making it's vote..
Some tech companies did manage to push ahead. Shares of EchoStar Communications added 77 cents, or 2.3%, to $34.95 on Nasdaq. The satellite- television company removed Viacom-owned channels from its Dish Network system in 16 markets in response to a dispute over programming fees. Viacom channels include CBS affiliates, Comedy Central, MTV and Nickelodeon. Class A shares of Viacom dropped 40 cents, or 1%, to $39.18 on the Big Board. |
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  Voodoo288 Common Sense Dictates Premium join:2002-08-19 Richmond, VA clubs:
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2 edits | reply to pepperhead Re: Good thing I didn't get Dish yet
said by pepperhead : Part of the reason I was going to go to dish is to save money. One of the channels I really wanted to get was TV Land.
TVLand is not effected (so far). As of 1:55pm Tues it's up and running on my Dish sub.
As far as these Viacom channels being "freebies", to be honest the content has become so lousy that they should be paying me to have them on my sub. Good to see Dish stand up to them. Their doing what I pay them to do. |
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  Bichon Premium,MVM join:2002-10-10 Freehold, NJ | reply to Hall Has nothing to do with tiers or packaging. It simply has to do with which channels were up for renewal. For example, TV Land and Spike TV are similar Viacom channels, but they didn't go dark because the contract didn't run out on them. |
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 obladi6703
join:2002-06-25 Pearl, MS
| reply to pepperhead I recomend everyone purchase directv with tivo. The tivo unit is only $99 and the dual tuners, which allow you to watch one channel while another records or record two programs at once, are great. I currently receive the premium package, all channels, for $85 (They give me $20 off a month). When you are a subscriber for at least six months you can receive great deals. |
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  mbernste Boosted Premium,MVM join:2001-06-30 Piscataway, NJ
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| reply to NPGMBR said by NPGMBR : If I remember correctly this did happen with Comcast a few years back but it was with Disney.
It wasn't Comcast, it was Time Warner. -- Sign the petition to sell TechTV to Comcast
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  pepperhead
join:2001-10-18 Bowling Green, KY
| reply to obladi6703 said by obladi6703 : I recomend everyone purchase directv with tivo. The tivo unit is only $99 and the dual tuners, which allow you to watch one channel while another records or record two programs at once, are great. I currently receive the premium package, all channels, for $85 (They give me $20 off a month). When you are a subscriber for at least six months you can receive great deals.
The reason most people are going to dish to save money. What you are suggesting would raise my rates. I know tivo's are great and all but I don't watch that much TV to justify owning one and most movie channels show movies I have no interest in. -- "Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life." - Bennett Marco |
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  cjynx Whatchu Talkin' Bout
join:2003-01-13 Pittsburgh, PA
| reply to moonpuppy I think I read somewhere that Dish raised their prices by $3 sometime over this past year. CBS/Viacom wanted 6 pennies of that $3 and Dish said no. I don't think giving them 6 pennies would have raised the rates to the customer. I don't have a dish and never will, but its just my two cents, now someone just needs 4 more and they can get back their missing channels. |
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  cyrus369
join:2002-09-16 usa clubs: | reply to pepperhead whos want to record sponge bob for me>? this is ridiculous, im glad they have the balls to stand up to viacom, but i want my sponge bob damit! |
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  jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA
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| reply to cjynx said by cjynx : I think I read somewhere that Dish raised their prices by $3 sometime over this past year. CBS/Viacom wanted 6 pennies of that $3 and Dish said no. I don't think giving them 6 pennies would have raised the rates to the customer. I don't have a dish and never will, but its just my two cents, now someone just needs 4 more and they can get back their missing channels.
That's certainly one spin.
Read both sides of the story, first is Viacom's(the version you heard), followed by Dish Central's:
»CBS takes offensive against Dish Network/EchoStar |
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| reply to pepperhead MTV should be off the air anyways. |
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