reefrunner
join:2004-01-02
Dallas, TX
| reply to pittdave
Re: TiVo Series 2 connection: Newbie Post
said by pittdave  :
Thanks for the input.
When going through the box, all channels are being fed by the component output of the 6208. This puts the poor quality on Comcast. It simply cant be with the tube as it is all the same input. I dont what to try next other than the dish.
I have heard that the poor quality of SD channels is caused by the Moto5100 receiver. Which if you think about it, that is logically true. I had one of the regular Digital STB receivers hooked up to my 57" Sony before I had the Moto5100 STB installed. The analog channels looked decent then, but as soon as I had the 5100 STB installed, the analog quality went to crap. If this is the case, then Motorola did not make an effort to fix the problem in the 6208 model. |
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bigdmaxxer
join:2003-12-18
Garland, TX
| Analog Channels
I will agree that the analog channels on the 6208 are nothing to write home about, but I'm willing to put up with it on my 57" Hitachi in order to have the DVR. Let's face it most of us watch t.v. during the prime time hours, and we're watching an HD feed. About the only thing we watch on analog is the local news. I jokely told my wife I'd bet there are people around here that would be willing to shell out a couple hundred buck on ebay to trade out their 5100 for the 6208 that we're renting just to have the DVR feature. I haven't tried timing it out yet, but I bet you can shave off 10 minutes or so on an hour program by using the recording buffer on the 6208 instead of watching the program live. |
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Arcuro
join:2004-03-08
Allen, TX
2 edits | reply to reefrunner
DLP TV - Comcast HD - and my issues!!!
Hey,
I own an DLP TV and decided to try out Comcast HD before I decided to upgrade my Direct TV box to support HD. Using my current Direct TV box (Sony) my signal is terrible (I am using an S-Video cable which is the best choice I have on this model). The image quality is poor, not sharp and clear, Text at times can be unreadable. So I thought by going to Comcast and using their new Motorola HD receiver I would gain a better image. I was wrong. The HD signal is great, the images are clear and sharp like they should be but the digital and analog channels are a notch above in quality as my Direct TV signal.
So now I am in a position of what I am going to do next? I have thought about calling Direct TV and seeing if they would allow me to test one of the new HD receivers coming out later this month and see if the new Digital processors clean up the images on my TV. I also have considered looking into the new service VOOM but sill doing some research on them. I did read a post that suggested splitting the signal and putting a direct feed into the TV and us its turner and see if that helps improve the quality, I have not done this, I will test it out tonight and will let you know how it went, this however seems a little more work then needed when I am paying for a service and expect good quality.
Just frustrating (and seems like I am not the only one on this message board) to buy a nice TV and outside of HD channels get poor quality.
If more and more people are starting to invest in DLP, Plasma, LCD style TV’s and each one gets the same quality from digital and analog signals and only around 10 -12 true HD channels (which varies between the cable/Satellite providers) something will need to be addressed and improved or people are going to start saying “and why did I just spend $$$$ on this TV and only get a few HD channels that look good and the rest of the channels look bad now, when they looked good on my old tube TV ? !!!! “, I would not want to be the store having to try and explain this one!!
Come on Comcast, Direct TV, Dish Network, VOOM……lets correct this issue!!!! |
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stm555
join:2002-02-04
Plano, TX
| I think it probably varies depending on what TV you have -- I've got a Sony LCD RP and every channel looks spectacular. Of course the HD looks tons better than the regular channels, but even the regular channels look good to me. My Xbox looks phenomenal, on 480i,480p, and 720p games. I'm ridiculously happy with my TV. Which is why, I guess, Circuit City has only raised the price for it over the last 3 months..
For what it's worth, my setup is:
Sony Grand Wega KF42WE610
Motorola 5100 HD box, DVI cable to the TV, s-video to the Tivo(s-video from the Tivo to the TV), split b-channel for PIP, coax digital to my receiver for digital sound
Xbox - component cables to the TV, optical cable to my receiver for digital sound |
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pittdave
join:2003-11-26
Dallas, TX
| Re: TiVo Series 2 connection: Newbie Post
I have to believe its more of a Comcast issue. I have the signal totally bypassing the 6208 and its just as bad on my HD set as it is with the box.
I am seriously looking at VOOM as I can now get a box and they look like the only way to get HD with zero down
The Dish Direct deal requires a receiver, which I dont have and dont have the money to get
PD |
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flex727
join:2001-12-29
Allen, TX
| reply to bigdmaxxer
Re: Analog Channels
I'm seeing lots of complaints here about the non-HD channels and their HD TV. You all do realize that all HD TVs, especially big screen, non-CRT, are well known for crummy reporduction of non-HD signals? It's partly a function of blowing the low-res picture up so big and partly a function of the digitizing, deinterlacing, and upconversion processes. Don't blame Comcast for something inherent in your choice of televisions. (This is coming from someone who also owns a DLP RPTV and is experiencing the same problems). |
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kcharg
Kcharg
Premium,VIP
join:2000-10-28
Forney, TX
| said by flex727 :
I'm seeing lots of complaints here about the non-HD channels and their HD TV. You all do realize that all HD TVs, especially big screen, non-CRT, are well known for crummy reporduction of non-HD signals? It's partly a function of blowing the low-res picture up so big and partly a function of the digitizing, deinterlacing, and upconversion processes. Don't blame Comcast for something inherent in your choice of televisions. (This is coming from someone who also owns a DLP RPTV and is experiencing the same problems).
Thanks, Flex727. I just didn't want the one to let it be known that some TV's do this. I personally own a 46-inch widescreen Phillips HDTV. My analog channels look fine both with or without my HD/DVR box.
kcharg
kcharg
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kcharghttp://home.attbi.com/~kcharg/ |
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reefrunner
join:2004-01-02
Dallas, TX
| reply to stm555
Re: DLP TV - Comcast HD - and my issues!!!
said by stm555 :
Motorola 5100 HD box, DVI cable to the TV, s-video to the
How did you do that??? The DVI is disabled on the 5100s. |
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stewlevine
join:2002-05-28
Dallas, TX
| said by reefrunner :
said by stm555 :
Motorola 5100 HD box, DVI cable to the TV, s-video to the
How did you do that??? The DVI is disabled on the 5100s.
When is the last time you checked? Firmware 7.07 enables DVI on the 5100, 6200, and 6208 - there is extensive discussion about it at »www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre···d=194404 |
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stewlevine
join:2002-05-28
Dallas, TX | NBA Tv?
Kcharg or anyone else in the know?
Comcast announced a deal with NBA TV two days ago and some regions already have launch dates. Any word of when it's coming here? |
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stm555
join:2002-02-04
Plano, TX | reply to reefrunner
Re: DLP TV - Comcast HD - and my issues!!!
How did you do that??? The DVI is disabled on the 5100s. Not where I am - It has been enabled for probably a month now. I even had my box replaced recently, and it is enabled on the new box as well. |
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reefrunner
join:2004-01-02
Dallas, TX | I can promise you that the DVI is not enabled on my 5100. I had my 5100 installed in January and it has not worked yet.
I will have to check the firmaware when I get home. |
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kcharg
Kcharg
Premium,VIP
join:2000-10-28
Forney, TX
| reply to stewlevine
Re: NBA Tv?
said by stewlevine :
Kcharg or anyone else in the know?
Comcast announced a deal with NBA TV two days ago and some regions already have launch dates. Any word of when it's coming here?
I am not sure yet. I will drop a person an email at my company that should know.
kcharg
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kcharghttp://home.attbi.com/~kcharg/ |
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zakman
@comcast.net | Is anybody getting the call backs from comcast on the HD DVR or are they just trying enough CSRs until you get one that is cooperative? I was promised a callback by a supervisor and nothing since friday! |
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HDTV Guy
@covad.net | reply to kcharg
There are some rumors that Comcast will add some new HD channels later this month-- maybe Discovery HD and/or Bravo HD ???
But definitely not HDNet (unfortunately).
Heard anything? |
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New User
@comcast.net
| Analog
While my SD channels still look poor, I would say they got better after the new box was "burned in" for a day. On day 2 some things looked better.
Also, I've heard the WEGA LCD tv's do the best of handling the analog and SD signals over all the other HD tv's. Anybody else had this experience? |
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zakman
@cypresscom.ne
| no more 6208s
update: after calling and talking to a manager and asking why I never got a callback on the 6208. I ended up pretty much getting a "sorry we screwed you, but we are not going to do anything about it" and had to sign up for the standard HD box instead. There is no waiting list, etc.
oh well...
grats to all the ones that got the 6208s! |
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kcharg
Kcharg
Premium,VIP
join:2000-10-28
Forney, TX
| reply to HDTV Guy
Re: NBA Tv?
said by HDTV Guy:
There are some rumors that Comcast will add some new HD channels later this month-- maybe Discovery HD and/or Bravo HD ???
But definitely not HDNet (unfortunately).
Heard anything?
From an insider I can guarantee you that the new channels will not be Discovery and HDnet. I am yet to hear anything regarding Bravo. I am still thinking that the next channels will be InHD 1 & 2 (www.inhd.com) and possibly PBS HD. I am emailing a VP right now. I will let you know their response.
kcharg
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kcharghttp://home.attbi.com/~kcharg/ |
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creese1464
@wt.net | InHD and PBS would be great, I hope it pans out. Thanks for all your info kcharg. |
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StormyQ
join:2002-10-24
Mckinney, TX
| reply to kcharg
Re: HDTV and Kcharg
Kcharg,
Please ignore the idiotic posts on this thread and don't hold it against the rest of us who appreciate your efforts to keep us informed over the last 4-5 months. I know for a fact that people on other forums track this thread for news on Comcast HD as it relates to the D/FW market.
Comcast has made fast progress in the area of HDTV since launcing in D/FW last November. Personally, I'm very happy that I cancelled a pending DISH order and went w/ Comcast believing that they would rapidly make up ground in the HD race. |
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