goober22
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Re: CBS takes offensive against Dish Network/EchoS
According to the just completed "Charlie Chat" it looks like Dish will lose the channels tonight at midnight. He said they will give a $1 refund for losing the cbs feed and another $1 for the other viacom ones - total of $2 a month.
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Hayward
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He said they will give a $1 refund for losing the cbs feed and another $1 for the other viacom ones - total of $2 a month.
Sounds like just a little doesn't it??? Then again consider probably more than half of your bill it SPORTS fees.
If like me you could care less... I can go out to see the Superbowl or whatever...NEVER watch at home... but I pay for it... and its the same crap... ESPN is owned by ABC/Disney and to carry their channels EVERYONE MUST take ESPN... I am sure FOX does the same with FOX SPORTS.
Time for this BS to end!!!!!
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JMan0948
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Re: CBS takes offensive against Dish Network/EchoStar
AS long as they don't stop broadcasting on DirecTV, I won't mind. While it's sad for DISH sub's, I'm sorry. Really, I'd just want Spike TV.. could care less about all the other channels. If that ever happened, I'd just get the basic cable $9/month if I had to (on top of direcTV)! A lot of DISH sub's will be doing this soon, I bet... and that means, they will be spending more money and the damn cable co's will be getting more money AGAIN! And in my area, that means COMCAST. DirecTV had a scare with WWE before, if anyone knows/remember. They stopped airing PPV's due to guess what? Yeah, MONEY! heh... Took them about 6 months to get PPV's back on....
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JMan0948
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OK! That was scary. I was watching Spike TV, and every like 10-15 minutes they put on the bottom... "DISH SUBSCRIBERS...CALL AND SAY I LIKE SPIKE!"....
Then, a commercial aired and it was SpongeBob, and he said, CAN I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE?! And then all of a sudden it went black and then this spooky music started playing... and it listed all the channels that are probably going to go away in like 10 minutes for you Dish Network sub's.... EVERYONE CALL TO HELP THEM OUT!
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Hayward
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Re: CBS takes offensive against Dish Network/EchoS
said by JMan0948 :
AS long as they don't stop broadcasting on DirecTV, I won't mind. While it's sad for DISH sub's, I'm sorry. Really, I'd just want Spike TV
And that is part of this whole thing too... other than OCCASIONALLY watching a Trek rerun I could care less about SPIKE (or TNN before it)
Real point is, why should a provider be forced to carry something they don't want to to get those they do (especially satellite where bandwidth is a very FINITE resource), or a subscriber PAY for something they don't want either?... and again that is the programmers doing not really the service provider!!!
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panth1
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Re: CBS takes offensive against Dish Network/EchoStar
Me waits as many Dish Network subscribers start posting OMG what my channelz be gone.. I can't read or search the interweb. 
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Hayward
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Well that would because they generally don't pay attention to anything around them (but expect the world)... this is no surprise to me I have known of it as a coming possibility for months now.
Of course unless they just haven't been watching those channels the last week how could they not know? (Which would mean they probably aren't the die hards of those channels either.
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systems2000
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Ther's always the "Antenna In" port for CBS. I'd think that CBS would be on the losing side of having to reach viewers by antenna while all the other networks are being viewed off the satellite. As for the others, does anyone really care that MTV gets the boot (especially after the "SuperBowl" incedent)? And, I'm sure I can find better things for the kids to do with "Spring" on the doorstep. |
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robfwb
join:2001-01-07
Mary Esther, FL
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Re: CBS takes offensive against Dish Network/EchoStar
MTV 2 just aired that commerical and I saw it. It said "DISH network has THREATENED to take away the following channels..." Sounds like greed to me.
Anyway its 12:13 EDT and I'm still watching beavis and butthole on MTV 2. The scroll got blocked again. What a bunch of losers. I may decide to go to direct.
Rob
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mikabl
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Re: CBS takes offensive against Dish Network/EchoS
Islaine wrote >>>Well, I'm waiting for an HD antenna to be installed
What's a HD antenna? How does it differ from a regular antenna? |
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robfwb
join:2001-01-07
Mary Esther, FL
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Re: CBS takes offensive against Dish Network/EchoStar
And the proof:
(That's funny they put Beavis and Butthole on "family/children" - Lots)
Rob
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JMan0948
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said by robfwb :
The scroll got blocked again. What a bunch of losers. I may decide to go to direct.
Yes! Go DirecTV! Go, all of ye'!
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SteveOA
join:2003-08-13
Seattle, WA | reply to Hall
midnight tonight pst |
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JMan0948
Where's The Background Music?
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Well someone please confirm this at 12 AM Pacific! Screenshots would be good  |
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antwanp
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Wow, a local reference!
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VWSpeedRacer
join:2002-10-06
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Dish Network customer here... And I say screw CBS.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled scrolling messages... |
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Hayward
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Re: CBS takes offensive against Dish Network/EchoS
said by JMan0948 :
said by robfwb :
The scroll got blocked again. What a bunch of losers. I may decide to go to direct.
Yes! Go DirecTV! Go, all of ye'!
Sure go ahead... just go with the just pass anything asked for along to the customer provider... enjoy.
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Re: CBS takes offensive against Dish Network/EchoStar
New verbage posted to WCBS New York's Website. »cbsnewyork.com/homepage
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Attention Dish Network/Echostar subscribers: WCBS-TV deeply regrets any inconvenience to our viewers resulting from Dish Network's threats to drop WCBS-TV. Dish Network just raised rates for many subscribers by three dollars per month, yet they are refusing to pay Viacom barely 6 cents more per month so you can continue to get all of the CBS programs, WCBS-TV's local news, weather and sports, and all of the Viacom cable channels including MTV, Nickelodeon and Comedy Central. We are continuing to try to negotiate a fair resolution to this completely unnecessary situation, in the meantime, we remind our viewers that our signal remains available for free over the air, as well as by subscription from DirecTV and your local cable operator. Thank you. Click here for more Information
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| It would not be fair to not include the other side of the story 
Viacom's Demands Create Impasse in Negotiations For Rights to Carry Channels; DISH Network to Lose CBS in 16 Markets
ENGLEWOOD, Colo., Mar 9, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- EchoStar Communications Corporation (Nasdaq:DISH) confirmed today that Viacom Inc.'s demands for rate increases and other terms had left EchoStar's DISH Network satellite TV service with no choice other than to remove 16 of Viacom's owned-and-operated CBS local stations and 10 of its nationally distributed channels as of midnight (PT).
Among Viacom's strong-arm tactics is the demand that DISH Network carry Viacom-owned channels of little or no measurable appeal to viewers in exchange for the rights to carry the 16 owned-and-operated CBS stations. Viacom also threatened to withhold the Super Bowl from DISH Network customers until a federal judge intervened. EchoStar has challenged Viacom in court on these antitrust issues, noting that Viacom is leveraging its control of the public airwaves -- acquired by Viacom for free.
"DISH Network customers in the cities with CBS owned-and-operated stations are entitled to keep up with local news and events distributed over publicly owned airwaves, and Viacom is interfering with that right," said Charles Ergen, chairman and chief executive officer of EchoStar. "DISH Network will always have a place for CBS and we're willing to pay for retransmission rights, but Viacom is holding the public airwaves hostage, trying to extract concessions and higher rates on programming unrelated to CBS."
Viacom has asked for rate increases up to 40 percent over the length of the contract -- or nearly four times the rate of inflation. That demand potentially equates to hundreds of millions of dollars in payments by DISH Network, plus additional payments for additional channels that would offer little or no value to DISH Network's customers -- while saddling them with the costs. Viacom's demands for carriage of low-interest channels impede DISH Network's ability to provide new, independently owned channels with a broad appeal.
DISH Network is providing a $1 monthly credit to customers who lose CBS programming in the following markets where the stations are owned and operated by CBS: Austin, Boston, Baltimore, Chicago, Dallas-Ft. Worth, Denver, Detroit, Green Bay, Wis., Miami-Ft. Lauderdale, Minneapolis, Los Angeles, New York, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Salt Lake City and San Francisco.
Other channels affected by Viacom's unreasonable demands include BET, Comedy Central, MTV, MTV2, MTV Espanol, Nickelodeon, Nick Games & Sports, Noggin, VH1, VH1 Classic and CBS-HD East and West. Customers who had been receiving those channels on America's Top 60, America's Top 120, America's Top 180, America's Everything Pak, and DISH Latino Max will also receive a $1 monthly credit while the channels are unavailable.
Included in Viacom's negotiating tactics is a demand for DISH Network to renegotiate current agreements on other Viacom channels, allowing Viacom to require carriage and higher rates on those channels.
"Our goal is to remain the best value for our customers for the lowest price," said Ergen. "To do this, we need fair contracts with competitive pricing that allow DISH Network to select the channels most compatible with the interests of our customers."
DISH Network has been providing the Viacom channels since Jan. 7, 2004, under the terms of a U.S. District Court's temporary restraining order that was due to expire at midnight (PT) March 8, 2004.
DISH Network has reached a fair agreement for Viacom channels in the past, and DISH Network will continue to pursue negotiation so that it may broadcast all or most of those channels again.
Obtained from corporate-ir.net
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It's been scrolling across the screen on our Nick and TV Land channels, and we're on Directv, which I'm thankful for, those are my favorite channels!! |
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