fatmanskinny
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|  Folks, let's make up our minds.....
and realize that nothing is guaranteed to be 100% safe. It annoys the $hit out of me to hear Linux users saying "Linux is robust and you cannot get through Linux and blah blah blah". "Mac never catches a virus and is based on the Unix kernel, blah blah blah". "My firewall is rock solid and nothing can get through it".
For these idiots who think their systems are 100% secure, go to Barnes and Noble and look in their computer book section. You will be surprised by the amount of books you will see on "hacking" Linux, Macs and security systems (i.e. firewalls). Of course, these hacking books come with disclaimers such as "this book is intended for educational purposes only and not to actually hack into systems. Yeah, right.
Quit believing your $hit is 100% safe. Heck, life is not guaranteed from second to second. You think your firewall is? Please join the patch-and-fix group and shaddup already about your 100% safe network.
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Rhobite
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| You gave me a good laugh there. Do you really think you can walk into a Barnes and Noble and find out how to discover and exploit an unknown buffer overflow in a major software product? Give me a break. I'm not saying that any package is totally secure, but the idea that you can get information on specific vulnerabilities from some random book on "hacking" is pretty far-fetched.
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cbrigante2
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| said by Rhobite  :
You gave me a good laugh there. Do you really think you can walk into a Barnes and Noble and find out how to discover and exploit an unknown buffer overflow in a major software product? Give me a break. I'm not saying that any package is totally secure, but the idea that you can get information on specific vulnerabilities from some random book on "hacking" is pretty far-fetched.
»search.barnesandnoble.com/bookse···23&itm=1
Thought it might be prudent to look that "fact" up |
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Rhobite
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| said by cbrigante2 :
»search.barnesandnoble.com/bookse···23&itm=1
Thought it might be prudent to look that "fact" up
That book's just a list of old vulnerabilities that have been patched for a long time.
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Boogeyman
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| Only patched on systems whose users keep thier stuff patched. Thats the main problem, most people dont patch thier software and OS. If they did, there wouldnt be so many DoS attacks, virii, trojans, and worms running around.
And there is a lot you can learn even from old exploits that have been patched, you can set up your own network with an unpatched machine and try them all out, learn the basics, ect.
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cbrigante2
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North Aurora, IL | reply to fatmanskinny
I kind of figured the books were about htat, but like boogyman said, you can learn a lot from how it's patched. |
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