glmclell
join:2000-10-17
Manistee, MI
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|  while it lasts...
congrats to Jeff and his supporters
I think voip over the internet is great and am eagerly experimenting with it now.
but the government will eventually give into the demands of the telco's, as the telco still has a few cards up their sleeve they have yet to play
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reelbigfish
join:2002-06-06
Boston, MA
·Comcast
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| since some providers do go over the PSTN network, those providers to have a right to charge since it is thier equitpment. I mean, POTS service isn't going away anytime soon. Not until everybody gets broadband, and that is still taking it's sweet time. Also, your need a good provider. Some only give 128kbps upload, and sometimes people don't even get that. As for small business, in most cases it costs less for a few lines than VoIP. For larger companies it makes sense. This is only the beginning of what will be a slow process that is going to get very ugly. |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| Well, what if I've already paid my local service bill and am only making local calls to a VoIP gateway? Shouldn't I get the same rate if I'm calling a local VoIP switch in unit 4 of an office building that I get if I'm calling a lawyer in unit 3 of the same building? Otherwise, isn't the price differential just plain anti-competitive surcharging?
Your attitude seems to be that the local telco gets to charge whatever it wants for its bottleneck access to the rest of the world. I suppose you also support access charges for long distance, even though they are several times the cost of providing the connection to LD carriers?
Calvoiper
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jljohn0605
join:2002-12-30
Arabi, LA
| reply to reelbigfish
RBOCs want the ruling too. They have already started deploying VOIP and if the ruling is to keep hands off all of it then they will only have VOIP. The RBOCS will be free of regulation and POTS as you know it today will not exsit. Also, they will not have to resell it to the CLECS. Don't be fooled, the RBOCS will be a BIG winner!!! |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
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| It's really going to be akin to a WWF cage match.
The states aren't exactly wimps, and fresh from their likely loss of potential broadband tax they're going to want cash from somewhere....
Plus you've got the FBI eager to regulate ALL VoIP providers in an era where national security seemingly trumps everything from the bill of rights to logic....
This battle will be more like a political gang-war than a reasoned process I think. As with all politics, my guess is the wealthiest will come out on top. |
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lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL
| reply to reelbigfish
As I understand the concept, for voice to move from a VoIP POP into a local exchange system there needs to be voice trunks. The owner of the VoIP POP already pays for those voice trunks, so VoIP calls are not mysteriously appearing on the PSTN.
To say the VoIP providers should operate under the same POTS rules is to say they should pay twice for putting long distance calls into the PSTN.
In the POTS only world ILEC "A" generates a long distance call, it transits a long distance carrier and ends at ILEC "B". ILEC "A" pays a small charge for adding traffic to ILEC "B", but in this case ILEC "A" is not buying any infrastructure.
My take on it only and I could be wrong. |
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