warlock56
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join:2002-07-31
Arlington, TX | File sharing too risky?
Bah, just use newsgroups |
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DONKEYKONG01
join:2003-03-21
Metairie, LA | Only the laws can protect you from the RIAA/MPAA's lawsuit, no cloaking method is going to stop them anytime soon! Looking for a target to sue is very easy for them as there are still many user who are wide open to their intrusion!!! |
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dcnblues
join:2002-09-19
Irving, TX
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Newsgroups are great, except for one problem. Not all ISP's carry the 'alt.binary' groups (where all file attachments are supposed to go) AND not all ISP's 'keep' all the messages -- in fact, some deliberately set the expire timeouts low so that if server space is at a premium, a large binary file message will get deleted to make room for several small text messages that are as little as 5 minutes 'newer'.
So newsgroup sharing becomes a 'scavenger hunt' exercise, where you can get MOST of a file youw ant, but have to go hunting for the one message (or four) that will complete the 'collection' and enable you to reassemble your file.
The pay-to-play newsgroup services like Supernews are much better... but their rates are almost as high per month as ISP access (sometimes more, depending on how much data you pull).
But yes, they are reasonably anonymous...keep in mind that posts to USENET go through SMTP (email outbound) so are subject to the same anonymity restrictions (branded with originating IP etc). Most privacy-savvy users can get around this using SMTP proxies and forged headers, but the average Joe probably will not know how to go about doing this. |
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SaBo7Ge
join:2003-03-12
US
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February 11th, @04:55PM
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Newsgroups aren't available to every person freely by their own ISPs and premium pay services that are out there don't come without their limitations.. Newsgroups also aren't necessarily anonymous to the uploader/poster of material either.. I'm actually quite surprised that RIAA/MPAA and their lobbyists haven't focused on this source considering what binaries groups offer to their downloaders. I'd assume that their focus is centered around the easiest target that is the most publicised amongest fairly uneducated PC users. Although one must wonder how long this trend will last until the watchdog groups eventually set their sights higher on bittorrent and newsgroups as well... |
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Cheetah9
join:2001-01-07
Bethel Park, PA | reply to dcnblues
And then you have companies like Covad who get their feeds from Supernews, but then put unrealistically LOW speed caps on your downloads. That really sucks!
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DONKEYKONG01
join:2003-03-21
Metairie, LA | Speed cap sucks, I would be very unhappy. |
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vic102482
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
 ·Verizon FIOS
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said by warlock56  :
Bah, just use newsgroups
No let the kiddies use kazaa, more bandwith for me w00t!:)
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CoxCable4
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone
 ·RoadRunner Cable
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said by dcnblues :
Newsgroups are great, except for one problem. Not all ISP's carry the 'alt.binary' groups (where all file attachments are supposed to go)
man, you know how much bandwidth those alt.binaries newsgroups use? meh, I know an isp that uses 98% of it's 100mbps line just from newsgroups. but i'm not complaining =) don't hate; share warez |
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Freezone
join:2000-09-29
Southfield, MI | reply to SaBo7Ge
News groups will never go away. Unless you block ip traffic from those countries where RIAA and others have no teeth.
Usenet dates prior to the web. |
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tdkyo
join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY | Besides, there are still forum chatting going on in newsgroups today with all the binaries postings. Taking down newsgroups means down with all the news net forum chatter that has been going for years and years and years. |
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