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nunya
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reply to Mike19732
Re: Anyone Have 1.5 or better package in Ofallon,IL?

I'll throw in $.02 since I've worked in, and built, both types of networks.
Both have certain advantages and disadvantages that I will not touch on. We'll keep this to getting the end user to the internet.

The telephone network was designed for dedicated "star" topography (for the most part). From the central office (or RT) out, the customer has the full dedicated spectrum of that cable pair. The connection from the DSLAM (actually a router behind the DSLAM) to an internet POP is a shared bottleneck. But as of today, most DSL ISP's are only running at 60% capacity max on their backhaul.

The cable T.V. system was originally developed in a "cascade" type trunk-branch network since all of it's customers were getting the same regenerated signal. In order to provide other services, they have attempted to "starify" their network. They divide the system into fiber fed "nodes". From the node, you are sharing the network with all those around you. You are also sharing the coax with video BW. Most cable companies are no where near fully digital yet, so they are running both digital and analog broadcast BW. Most cable companies are running at about 80-100% backhaul and node capacity. That's the price you pay for having the majority of customers. They also have routing issues from inexperience. Telcos have been in the ISP business a lot longer.
Cable company data engineers are screaming for video engineers to hurry up and digitize to allocate more BW.

Cable basically has two physical bottlenecks to DSL's one.
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LBDSL
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reply to vpr611
vpr611 See Profile, please show me where I stated "DSL is a dedicated connection to the Internet" and "Bandwidth is never shared"

I never said any of those comments.

The "main" difference between Cable, and DSL, is the way the networks are set up.

Cable Internet is connected in nodes. This being each area of town, or a neighborhood are on a node, and it is possible for a node to get busy during peak times.

DSL on the other hand, is a single line from your location to the CO (central Office) From there is it connected to a backbone, just like any other connection.

Technically, ALL internet access types, Dial-up, Cable, DSL, T1, etc. are shared at some point before getting to a backbone.

All providers buy pipes (T1, DS3, etc) which they branch off and sell the end user service.

Now back to my main point, DSL will not suffer like Cable does when it comes to over subscribed nodes on peak times.
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vpr611

join:2001-12-06
Saint Louis, MO

reply to LBDSL
said by LBDSL See Profile:
DSL will not suffer the lower speeds, during peak times, you will have a stable high speed connection.

So wilth DSL you are telling me that everyone has a true dedicated connection to the internet? So you mean that the bandwidth is never shared with DSL?
Because if my memory serves me correctly I do believe you are wrong. Bandwidth is still shared even with DSL.

hmmm.............
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Mike19732

join:2002-11-23
O Fallon, IL

reply to LBDSL
thanks for quick reply Brent.Im going 1.5/3 package and Im 2000 ft from RT so my expectations are high.I cant wait.I would take a speed hit for stability anyday,but with the new packages for DSL I wont have to.I AM SO VERY HAPPY TO HAVE ALTERNATIVES OTHER THAN CHARTER.I will go off on a 2 page rampage so I wont say anymore about them.I will check back in after I have had DSL for 10 days.
Thanks again for any opinions,comments,or ratings.


LBDSL
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Auburn Hills, MI

reply to Mike19732
Mike,

You are correct, DSL will not suffer the lower speeds, during peak times, you will have a stable high speed connection.

If you would like to know what type of speed packages, any Covad provider can offer you, feel free to let me know.

Enjoy your DSL, and you will be much happier during peak usage.

Brent
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Mike19732

join:2002-11-23
O Fallon, IL

i would appreciate it if anyone could describe or rate the service in the 62269 Ofallon,IL area.Im pretty close to an RT so I am expecting good speeds.I have been with cable for years and I am just getting tired or the erratic downstream and unreliability of charter.So this will be my first DSL experience.I will feel less congestion and latency even at on peak times so I hear.I dont know anyone who has it,but is this true?
Thanks in advance for any input.
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