chef423
Chef423
join:2000-09-02
Springfield, IL
2 edits | Router setup behind Insight's cable modem??
I am going to use a SpeedStream 5851(to share the Cable connection to my PC as well as PS2/Xbox), which was used originally for SDSL. I am in the Springfield area. I have everything set to DHCP in the router, but I am concerned about what to set the WAN protocol and PVC to. Currently, WAN is set to RFC 1483 (IP routing, NETBIOS disabled) and the PVC is 0 * 38.
Will this work?
Thanks,
chef423 |
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DevilOnE
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Evansville, IN | I have a Dlink wireless AP/4 port router behind the cable modem and i didnt have to configure anything and my PS2 works. |
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chef423
Chef423
join:2000-09-02
Springfield, IL | yeah, thats cause you have a DLink.... |
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flw
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I use a linksys AP/router, Dlink cable modem and the defaults worked fine for connectivity of various PC's I have.
I still needed to setup wireless security and enable the firewall but straight out of the box it worked and synch with insightbb fine. The only thing I real had to do to get on the net is re-registar the mac from the router. Done.
I'd suggest you start with the defaults first, then re-activate account with new mac address from router, then post back what you have tried with results.
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Monolyth
join:2004-01-15
Springfield, IL
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Many routers provide you with the ability to "Clone MAC Address" which will take the MAC of the NIC connected to the router and make it it's own. So what I would do is register my computer on Insight's place. Then hookup the router and clone my mac address and change the computer name to mine, and I could surf just fine. |
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IGGY
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join:2001-03-30
Chatham, IL
| reply to chef423
»help.insightbb.com/
Someone really needs to redo the screen captures for the tutorials on XBox and PS2 broadband setup at that link. But if you haven't taken a look there it might worth a glance.
There are also a few related links here
»www.iggyz.com/book/insight.html
»UNOFFICIAL **how to hook up PS2 with InsightBB**
»insight ,arris modem and xbox live
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Zerokill
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I just bought the modem for my ps2 but im uncertain what I have to buy next; a router? or a hub? Insight says to use a hub as routers cause problems with the ps2. I'm not sure if this is true or not but I think you have to also purchase an extra IP address which I dont want to do(If you use a hub?). I called tech support and the guy told me to get a router but the insightbb website says hub. Well whatever it is I dont want to pay for an extra IP address. Any recomendations on what kind of router or hub to buy? Also how would i go about configuring my computer and my PS2 so i can play online games?
SOrry for all the questions but thanks to anyone that can answer them.
Sincerely,
Phil C. |
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AlkalineArmy
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join:2002-03-14
Greenfield, IN
| Definitely get a router, you're correct in that you need an extra IP if you hook up your PS2 through a hub. As far as what router to get, it's really not important as long as you get one that is compatible with PS2 (just search for a router you're interested in and PS2 on google and you can find out based on other's experiences). Once you get a router, configuring it is usually as simple as plug 'n play. I have a Microsoft MN-700, and I haven't forwarded any ports or put the PS2 in the DMZ and I've never had a problem. If for some reason you have problems, placing the PS2 in the DMZ is the simplest thing to do as different games use different ports. As for directions on how to do this, it depends on the router, so until you get one I can't help there. Good luck to you.
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flw
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| reply to chef423
In addition to iggy's referenced step by step procedures, don't clone your mac address unless you have only one computer connected to the internet only and have a application that requires it. Otherwise if you expand your network (add a laptop etc...) or have a friend over that you would like to share your connection with you won't be able to.
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bbtech2
join:2003-12-04
Bloomington, IN
| said by flw  :
don't clone your mac address unless you have only one computer connected to the internet only and have a application that requires it. Otherwise if you expand your network (add a laptop etc...) or have a friend over that you would like to share your connection with you won't be able to.
This is completely incorrect it doesn't matter what MAC address your router has, because Insight can't see anything past the router. If you clone your computer's MAC address to your router you can hook any and every thing that you desire to that router and it all will function like it's supposed to. |
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nateshaw
join:2002-10-23
Bloomington, IL
| I second bbtech2. I just hooked up to Xbox Live last week and had no problems at all because I had cloned my NIC MAC address to my DLink router. It was essentially plug n' play. Based off of my personal experience, I would recommend cloning your MAC address to your router. |
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Zerokill
@iu.edu
| How do you go about doing that? and what does DMZ stand for? I'm pretty good with setting up computers but I dont know a whole lot about networking. Basically I only have one computer that I use for insightbb and I also want to use my PS2. Any recommendations on routers? and where can i find a good price?
thanks
-Phil C. |
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flw
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| reply to nateshaw
said by nateshaw :
Based off of my personal experience, I would recommend cloning your MAC address to your router.
For what functionality will you gain from that?
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Zerokill
@iu.edu
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Couldnt i just unplug the ethernet cable from the back of my computer and then plug it straight into the PS2? I know i wont be able to use my copmuter online while playing PS2 but i dont care about that. Is this possible to do without buying a router or purchasing an extra IP address? If not read my above posts. Sorry this boggles me haha
thanks to all
Phil |
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AlkalineArmy
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join:2002-03-14
Greenfield, IN
| reply to flw
said by flw :
For what functionality will you gain from that?
You don't really gain any functionality, it's just easier that way. If you clone the MAC address of the computer that used to be connected to the modem, you won't have to register the router's new MAC address when you first connect it. Insight sees the same MAC address as before and nothing is changed on their end. You could easily leave the MAC of the router alone, but then you'd have to go through the process of registering it with InsightBB, which some users would rather not due to lack of technical expertise.
Zerokill: Yes you could do that. However, you'd either have to change your PS2's MAC address to match that of your computer, or you'd have to alternate between registering the PS2's MAC and the PC's MAC everytime you switch between the two.
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Zerokill
@iu.edu | Is that a pain in the ass to do? If you use AIM message me on there my SN is ThisDrummrHasADD
haha imagine that.
Phil C. |
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bbtech2
join:2003-12-04
Bloomington, IN
| reply to AlkalineArmy
said by AlkalineArmy :
or you'd have to alternate between registering the PS2's MAC and the PC's MAC everytime you switch between the two.
And keep in mind you can't browse the web on your PS2 to re-register it. Therefore everytime you switched you would have to call Insight to get your PS2 registered. That is why Insight requires you to get a router or a 2nd IP address. If you were to get a 2nd IP address you wouldn't necessarily need to get a hub you would be able to unplug/plug whenever you wanted to switch. |
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AlkalineArmy
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join:2002-03-14
Greenfield, IN
1 edit | reply to Zerokill
Zerokill, sorry I was mistaken. You can't change the PS2 network adapter's MAC as far as I know. I was thinking about the Xbox. So basically, the only resort you have is to either get a router, or go through the hassle of what bbtech2 said. |
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IGGY
No Guru Just Here To Help
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join:2001-03-30
Chatham, IL
1 edit | reply to chef423
I just setup a Linksys-802.11g Wireless Router-WRT54G today. All I had to do was register the device with Insight using the web interface and then follow setup procedures. Seems to be working fine so far. Our new VOIP is working smooth. I've not done any speed test as of yet. But will be doing that in a few minutes.
»/speedtests/30···77826153
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AlkalineArmy
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join:2002-03-14
Greenfield, IN
| Yeah, registering a router is no problem. But the PS2 doesn't have any web interface, so you can't access the registration page with the PS2 hooked up. Therefore, the only option is to call Insight.
However, I've got a new idea for Zerokill:
1- Check out the Insight FAQ to find out what your PS2's MAC address is. Write it down.
2- Download SMAC.
3- Use SMAC to change your computer's network interface card to the same value as your PS2's. See here for directions.
4- Register your computer with Insight's registration server at sas.r31.insightbb.com.
Now you should be able to use your PS2 online by hooking it directly to your modem. However, you may need to power-cycle the modem every time you switch between devices.
Also note: If you ever get a hub or switch, DO NOT hook both devices up at once without changing the PC's MAC back to its original value. Having two devices with the same MAC on the same network will cause nothing but problems.
Hope that helps. Good luck.
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