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lakino
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reply to Anti_Cyrix
Re: Good Speeds.

said by Anti_Cyrix See Profile:
"it must be capable of... ...2Mbps while stationary indoors"

Finally. Some decent speeds. Lets see if it will actually work as promised.

ummmm... what will you need these speeds for on a little cell phone? Watching LOTR on that mini screen? I think 128k is overkill for cell phones. Whose gonna need the speed of these networks? It's a case of: they'll come if we build it.
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said by lakino See Profile:
ummmm... what will you need these speeds for on a little cell phone? Watching LOTR on that mini screen? I think 128k is overkill for cell phones. Whose gonna need the speed of these networks? It's a case of: they'll come if we build it.

I think that's more for using it as a modem for a laptop or PDA...
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said by lakino See Profile:
ummmm... what will you need these speeds for on a little cell phone? Watching LOTR on that mini screen? I think 128k is overkill for cell phones. Whose gonna need the speed of these networks? It's a case of: they'll come if we build it.

If you plug your cell phone into your laptop you can use it as a modem.

If your cell phone can play music you can stream it off the internet.

If your phone can take pictures you can send them over the internet.

128kbps would be marginal for any of those purposes.

BTW I don't need to do any of those things, but automatically pooh-poohing the usefulness is short sighted IMO.

Zero01

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reply to lakino
Air Cards Will Be The Primary Use On 3G Networks.


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reply to lakino
said by lakino See Profile:
said by Anti_Cyrix See Profile:
"it must be capable of... ...2Mbps while stationary indoors"

Finally. Some decent speeds. Lets see if it will actually work as promised.

ummmm... what will you need these speeds for on a little cell phone? Watching LOTR on that mini screen? I think 128k is overkill for cell phones. Whose gonna need the speed of these networks? It's a case of: they'll come if we build it.

No you do not generally need broadband on your cellphone. But you need broadband speeds on your laptop when your laptop is hooked to your cellphone. In other words, it is for your laptop, TabletPC etc.

The more important question is how much is it going to cost? Depending on the cost it might be another unused feature of the cell phone that is exercised by those corporate executives and wall street types with deep pockets only.

cmaenginsb
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reply to lakino
Umm, EvDO= Evolution Data Only. Hmm Data Only would mean no voice wouldn't it? So you wouldn't get those speeds on your cell phones now would you?

Hmm, I guess you had a hard time with the reading comprehension tests.
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lakino
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said by cmaenginsb See Profile:
Umm, EvDO= Evolution Data Only. Hmm Data Only would mean no voice wouldn't it? So you wouldn't get those speeds on your cell phones now would you?

Hmm, I guess you had a hard time with the reading comprehension tests.

Hmm, I guess you're an idiot who doesn't read Press Releases carefully.

BEDMINSTER, N.J., and LAS VEGAS, Jan. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon Wireless,
the nation's largest and most reliable wireless voice network and the leader
in next generation technology deployment, will begin immediately to expand its
BroadbandAccess service nationally. Powered by Evolution-Data Optimized (EV-
DO)
third generation (3G) wide-area network, BroadbandAccess commercial
service, with average user speeds of 300-500 kilobits per second (kbps), is
expected to be available in many major U.S. cities this summer.


Does it say "data only" or "data optimized"? Yeah, you need to understand the meaning of comprehension indeed.

Additionally, unless you're using an analog phone from 1995, your cell phone is digital and the voice is converted to data before it leaves that handset. So everything trasmitted IS 100% digital data. You need to "comprehend" the technology and terminology before you go around spouting that ignorance of yours.

Sheehs.. some people gotta prove how stupid they are every day with their posts.
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said by cmaenginsb See Profile:
Umm, EvDO= Evolution Data Only. Hmm Data Only would mean no voice wouldn't it? So you wouldn't get those speeds on your cell phones now would you?

Hmm, I guess you had a hard time with the reading comprehension tests.

Yes, it's true at the beginning it will primarily be for laptops (and pda's), but it's only a short matter of time before they contract a handset that will use it as well. AT&T has both 'edge' cards and a handset (which I have) that use EDGE, so I have no doubt that Verizon is planning the same. There just isn't enough profit margin from business-only oriented wireless use to justify the development cost and rollout! Just ask anyone who used to work at Ricochet about that!
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MVM...right...


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Sprint tagged me with a $400 bill on that one. CSR kept telling me that I wouldn't get charged for a data cable. I had to call them 15+ times to get the bill fixed, and now I get daily SMS spam.
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SpitefulCrow
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reply to HardwareLust
Which handset? I have the NEC 515 and it's a great phone. Unfortunately my plan doesn't include mMode, but I'd love to be able to try it sometime.


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said by lakino See Profile:
Powered by Evolution-Data Optimized (EV-
DO)


Wrong.

1xEV-DO this Summer
I.J. Hudson, Tech Reporter
Verizon just announced a new high-speed wireless Internet service. It's called EvDO for Evolution Data Only

»www.nbc4.com/technology/2045536/detail.html

Furthermore, Feb 2004 PC World has an article on 3G (EDGE and EVDO). They call it "Evolution Data Only."

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Kompressor
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reply to cmaenginsb
People in locations who can't get Cable or DSL, may get 3G for their desktop PC or home network.

stufried
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reply to SpitefulCrow
I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I think the 515 is GPRS, not edge.

nl4jy

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Brooklyn, NY
reply to Kompressor
Yeah, but with upload sloer than modem. Gaming is definitely out of the question. Nor is upload files.
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lakino
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said by bklynite See Profile:
said by lakino See Profile:
Powered by Evolution-Data Optimized (EV-
DO)


Wrong.

Haha.. The arrogance. That was directly quoted from the press release of Verizon. If it's wrong, go tell it to Verizon.
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said by SpitefulCrow See Profile:
Which handset? I have the NEC 515 and it's a great phone. Unfortunately my plan doesn't include mMode, but I'd love to be able to try it sometime.

Nokia 6200
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tastypoison

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reply to lakino
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No one in my market calls it "optimized". It's Data Only.

Why? Because that's what Lucent calls it. Perhaps other vendors like Nortel call it something different.


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reply to lakino
I would much rather be a STUPID poster rather than a RUDE poster.

Actually I have always thought that people that are rude are the most stupid of all.

Take The Love Is Back Again--I Think... a perfect example!
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