DSLTech
join:2000-12-30
San Jose, CA
| Numbers need more details
As mentioned by another poster, how many AOL users bring their own connection but just have content accounts?
Also same thing for many ISPs, including AOL, Earthlink, Speakeasy, Megapath and many more that use different carriers.
For example I know that many use Covad - what do they mean by 530,000 for Covad anyway? Is that layer 1 and 2 services or also layer 3? They have their own layer 3 service as well. Where does this report draw the line anyway?
Many AOL users have Covad as the layer1&2 provider, who gets the count from this? Is the Covad count just for customers that Covad acts as an ISP for?
Same could be asked about the other carriers listed. |
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J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI
| That was actually noted in the linked news article: said by »isp-planet.com/research/rankings···003.html :
We try not to count any subscriber twice. For example, a subscriber to EarthLink DSL may also be counted in Covad's DSL numbers and in the ILEC's DSL numbers as well. We therefore do not count EarthLink broadband towards our total.
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DSLTech
join:2000-12-30
San Jose, CA
| OH okay. So basically in this case Earthlink doesnt get the count?
We need two lists. One for "ISP" numbers and one for ILEC/CLEC/cable provider numbers.
Then again, I have still not read the entire article, so I guess it could be in there.
Better yet.. who cares.  |
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J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI
| said by DSLTech  :
Better yet.. who cares.
Which, once one slices through all of the drivel, may be the best approach. The "study" concludes that, after adjustment, EarthLink has 0 unique subscribers (based on the assumption, apparently, that all EarthLink subscribers are accounted for in RBOC and MSO numbers - even though the SEC Filing referenced as source info identifies EL as having 3.9 million "narrowband" customers) and Covad has 0 unique subscribers (they assume that Covad numbers duplicate RBOC numbers). The second largest MSO in the US (TWC) is missing entirely - even though their numbers are available from the same source that they pulled the AOL numbers.
Quite the hack job by folks referring to themselves as "ISP Planet." |
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