 switchd
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| reply to Ronnie123 Re: Microsoft
quote: i think it's a dangerous trend to punish companies simply for giving people the features they want.
Features they want?!? I don't want WMP on my machine period. If a video I want to see is wma format, I won't watch it or will find another version of it. There are plenty of better formats available.
quote: I felt the same way about netscape... If they want people to use their software instead of the software included with the operating system they should make it better.... not cry because their software isn't good enough to be competitive.
I use Netscape and in my opinion it is far superior to IE in features, security, aesthetics and reliability. I also like the way Mail, Composer, Address Book and Navigator are so integrated into one aesthetically pleasing and functional application.
There is no simple way to completely uninstall IE or WMP from Windows. I don't like them and don't need them taking up space on my HD. What kind of OS is Windows if it doesn't function properly just because you remove a program?!
This is just my opinion. I know there are people that don't agree but there are also people who agree completely and that is the why we are supposed to have a choice along with the fact that competition drives innovation. MS isn't going to further browser or video technology if there is no reason to. This is all just my humble opinion. peace |
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| keywords there your opinion.
This lawsuit is a total farce. Then microsoft can counter sue claiming real and AOL don't bundle WMP with AOL. This is getting out of hand and this is just how the United states is turning no one works for a living they all sue to get what others have. It's sickening. They wonder why our jobs are being exported to other countries and the economy is in the crapper. God help us all if this one floats.
It stinks !!! And I hate it!!! -- This package does not contain a winner... |
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  Ronnie123 Premium join:2003-03-11 Springtown, TX | reply to switchd you have the choice not to use windows if you don't like it. Microsoft sells neither air nor water. |
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 switchd
join:2003-12-17 Hollidaysburg, PA
| That is true. Fortunately, about a month ago I purchased a Powerbook G4 after almost 8 years of using various windows machines. MS has made the system better with every new os it has released but it is safe to say (IMO) it doesn't match up to OS X and I personally am never going back. live the weekend peace |
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| reply to switchd If you don't like it don't use it. To me, they are mirror images of themselfs. What one does the other does exactly the same. I don't prefer any one media program, just whatever the media itself request I use. I have 4 different media programs on my windows based machine. I would like to only have to use just 1 but unfortunalty that is not the case. I'm sure that if a poll was taken, 90% of windows users have 2 or more media players on their pc and of that 90%, 89% have realplayer. this is retarded. Microsoft should just bundle everything in one HUGH pakage, that way people would complain about the size of the install. I take that back, Microsoft would just get sued for elusively placing the install file or something. What a load of crap. Microsoft is just playing the game better than it's competitors. nuf said!! I hate sore losers! The world would not be where it is today if it were not for Microsoft. |
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  rtcy FACTS only please Premium join:1999-10-16 Beverly Hills, CA
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| said by Yeahwhatever: If you don't like it don't use it. To me, they are mirror images of themselfs. What one does the other does exactly the same. I don't prefer any one media program, just whatever the media itself request I use. I have 4 different media programs on my windows based machine. I would like to only have to use just 1 but unfortunalty that is not the case. I'm sure that if a poll was taken, 90% of windows users have 2 or more media players on their pc and of that 90%, 89% have realplayer. this is retarded. Microsoft should just bundle everything in one HUGH pakage, that way people would complain about the size of the install. I take that back, Microsoft would just get sued for elusively placing the install file or something. What a load of crap. Microsoft is just playing the game better than it's competitors. nuf said!! I hate sore losers! The world would not be where it is today if it were not for Microsoft.
I'm right there with you. I've tried like 8 of them and NOT one of them has all the features I'm looking for.
since this topic is about WMP it dos NOT do CDDB lookups, so 50% of the CD's you own you can't rip with the right ID3 tags in them because in Microsoft's own MONOPOLISTIC mind if they don't own it, they won't use it, and they will make a half ass version until they bankrupt the original one
they have managed to get more companies to make plug in for them thatn any other and this makes WMP bettter in that respect, then ofcourse there was the old Real player that was actually a VERY good product until they went to the real 1 and real2 I bought those and SPECIFICALLY said no to the contant rebilling to my credit card BUT somehow they did anyway, this took a couple of phone calls to resolve, with no refund on what I was charged. has anyone noticed how WELL they hide the fact you are going to get charged 9.99 a month for music?
also why the heck is there no STANDARD to these plug ins so that one will work with WMP or WINAMP or REAL ?
I love the fraunhoffer plug in I bought for WMP, it is awesome in speed and quality, but only works with it.
real one does NOT have a quality mp3 encoder made on the fraunhoffer engine, intead they use LAME or some other not so great and slower encoder.
so we are ALL screwed on this sunject too.
10 years from now Microsoft will have bankrupted CDDB and just buy it out as usual........ |
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  rtcy FACTS only please Premium join:1999-10-16 Beverly Hills, CA
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| reply to Yeahwhatever said by Yeahwhatever: Microsoft is just playing the game better than it's competitors. nuf said!! I hate sore losers! The world would not be where it is today if it were not for Microsoft.
How does any other software maker get to compete with something that comes installed in the computr by default?
thats apples vs oranges
now once a user becomes knowledgeable and starts going out , finding, downloading, testing other media players, then your argument becomes more of a real scenario.
but MS numbers are always going to win simply because the masses don't know the difference, and after all they are the masses, begging to be led. |
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  Yeahwhatever
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| If you going to argue that point then how about Realnetworks to make thier own OS... yeah I thought so... not likely to happen... The whole point here is MS made an OS, a product that they can do with what they want. If you want to make a software company and try to improve on something that MS has already done, you do so at your own risk; if you lose money in your venture then quit or make a better, or different app... nuff said! Like I said there would be no RealNetworks if it were not for MS..... |
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2 edits | said by Yeahwhatever: If you going to argue that point then how about Realnetworks to make thier own OS... yeah I thought so... not likely to happen... The whole point here is MS made an OS, a product that they can do with what they want. If you want to make a software company and try to improve on something that MS has already done, you do so at your own risk; if you lose money in your venture then quit or make a better, or different app... nuff said! Like I said there would be no RealNetworks if it were not for MS.....
Thats not true.. M$ releases products that are included in their OS for the fact that they can. They dont want any competition and release media player, wordpad, outlook , IE and all the other buggy, exploitable crap that they don't even support with expedient patches for the simple reason to keep other companies from having success.. I hate real networks but they do have a case and I think its legit..
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