SystemE
join:2003-11-06 | Microsoft
Wow, I'm supporting Microsoft on this one. Even WMP is waaaaaay better than that sh*t RealNetworks puts out. |
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ArchAngel21x
MacFan Pro
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join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE
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Wow, I'm supporting Microsoft on this one. Even WMP is waaaaaay better than that sh*t RealNetworks puts out.
I agree. This is a case I hope Microsoft wins.
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Anti_Cyrix
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join:2003-03-06
Sacramento, CA | Ooooh... Going against microsoft? This should be fun to watch. |
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lazarus_
join:2002-08-31
Resolute, NU
| reply to SystemE
said by SystemE :
Wow, I'm supporting Microsoft on this one. Even WMP is waaaaaay better than that sh*t RealNetworks puts out.
I think both programs are crap.. I never use RealPlayer or media player..
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ks_av8r
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join:2003-09-17
Newton, KS
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Here too! After the spouse let Real Player upgrade to Realone and my firewall lit up like a xmas tree for all the phoning home it wanted to do, I dumped the whole POS. Spent time cleaning the registry and restoring the system files through system file checker that it either deleted or overwrote.
So all the websites that use Real only, we are not able to view their media.
I have been thinking of reloading (oldversion) Real 7 just for Oprah (due to spousal pressure).
Instead of sueing MS maybe Real should merge with Gator and Bonzi Buddy. |
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lazarus_
join:2002-08-31
Resolute, NU
| said by ks_av8r :
Here too! After the spouse let Real Player upgrade to Realone and my firewall lit up like a xmas tree for all the phoning home it wanted to do, I dumped the whole POS. Spent time cleaning the registry and restoring the system files through system file checker that it either deleted or overwrote.
So all the websites that use Real only, we are not able to view their media.
I have been thinking of reloading (oldversion) Real 7 just for Oprah (due to spousal pressure).
Instead of sueing MS maybe Real should merge with Gator and Bonzi Buddy.
K-lite site used to have a Quicktime and realplayer plugins that you could use w/ the old mplayer1. The only thing is that you cant play streaming media.. no big loss since you can use net transport to download most streams. hehe 
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BIGMIKE
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join:2002-06-07
Westminster, CA
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All your data belong to Microsoft
All your data (and biz plans) are belong to Microsoft
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All your data (and biz plans) are belong to Microsoft
With Microsoft's HailStorm .NET initiative hinging on the company's very own PassPort service, you'd think Redmond would be bending over backwards to stress the confidentially of user information.
Well, if that's the case, it hasn't started yet.
The current Passport Terms of Use agreement not only fails to guarantee confidentially, but actually gives Microsoft and its business partners the right to own your information, and do pretty much what they want with it. That encompasses all your Hotmail and MSN Messenger communications today.
As the Terms state:
"By posting messages, uploading files, inputting data, submitting any feedback or suggestions, or engaging in any other form of communication
with or through the Passport Web Site ... you are granting Microsoft and its affiliated companies permission to:
1. Use, modify, copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform, reproduce, publish, sublicense, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any such communication.
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»www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/18002.html
MS ID number system could track all Windows users
»www.theregister.co.uk/content/ar···079.html |
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vlad7
join:2002-12-30
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Re: Microsoft
said by lazarus_ :
said by SystemE :
Wow, I'm supporting Microsoft on this one. Even WMP is waaaaaay better than that sh*t RealNetworks puts out.
I think both programs are crap.. I never use RealPlayer or media player..
Yeah, both programs are crap, but I think real player is worse than windows media player.
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shell2600
Just A Shell
join:2002-05-22
Sea Cliff, NY
| reply to Anti_Cyrix
It's not about which player is better, it's about whether or not Microsoft was cashing in on their media player "bundleability". Which player is better is quite simply irrelevant.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to vlad7
said by vlad7 :
said by lazarus_ :
said by SystemE :
Wow, I'm supporting Microsoft on this one. Even WMP is waaaaaay better than that sh*t RealNetworks puts out.
I think both programs are crap.. I never use RealPlayer or media player..
Yeah, both programs are crap, but I think real player is worse than windows media player.
Remember windows 95 and its windows media player that would play REAL content? Microsoft later took that out of WMP(so users were FORCED to load more spyware on their system(also known as realplayer)). REAL networks needs to get out of court and spend time addressing its 'QUALITY ISSUES'. not spend time squabbling with a company that has a superior format to their own.
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ditka_b
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join:2001-10-05
Barrington, IL
·AT&T Midwest
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This has nothing to do with Microsofts player vs Real player.
Microsoft has a huge advantage being built into the fiber of the operating system as they did destroying Netscape.
Its whether MS colluded to unfairly interfere with Real player and they have hugely over the years, You may recall patches after MS Operating systems were introduced that "allowed" Real player to function properly.
Microsoft has and continues to illegally use their operating system to Monopolize and steal revenue from smaller companies. (Netscape ring any bells?)
SP2 is reported to have a full fledged Firewall (Who's the next to sue??)
Microsoft should build operating systems and sell their add on software not run others out of business with their operating system. |
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Ronnie123
Premium
join:2003-03-11
Springtown, TX
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i think it's a dangerous trend to punish companies simply for giving people the features they want. If microsoft hired some goons to burn down the real network offices... or threatened media providers with retribution for releasing media in real format.. that would be one thing. But simply adding a media player to their operating system is a different issue entirely.
If media player wasn't included with windows and i had a choice of downloading real player or MP, i would still be using media player.... because it s better. I have both.. I'm sure most people do. But if i see media for download in both formats, i choose the windows media player file every single time.
I felt the same way about netscape... If they want people to use their software instead of the software included with the operating system they should make it better.... not cry because their software isn't good enough to be competitive.
Next thing you know some playing card company will sue microsoft for "bundling" solitaire with windows. |
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Ronnie123
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join:2003-03-11
Springtown, TX
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said by ditka_b :
Microsoft should build operating systems and sell their add on software not run others out of business with their operating system.
no thank you.. i prefer to get these things for free. I applaud Microsoft for being on the ball and making a lot of software free that i would otherwise have had to pay for. I really don't see how that makes them the bad guy. How about ashtray companies sue car makers for bundling? or radio manufacturers.. they would have as valid a case as real does.. or netscape does did. They however handled it correctly.. they want you to buy their car stereos even though your car comes with one... so they make theirs better.. and have a booming business selling them. |
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Speedy8
Premium
join:2002-08-22
Alliance, OH
clubs: | reply to Ronnie123
I agree 100%. Maybe Corel will sue microsoft for notepad/wordpad going against wordperfect! |
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georgermct
Sony H D T V
join:2000-05-12
Bridgeport, CT
| reply to shell2600
Ummm...this is pretty stupid on Reals part. I have WMP, RealOne & QuickTime. I wasn't forced to use ONLY WMP so what's Reals issue? Hell, if I developed an OS and also developed other software, I sure would bundle things together.
As long as we have a choice and can install and use any media player (including any/all software), what's the big deal? Microsoft didn't say we can't use other products on their OS...so what gives Real any right to cry foul?
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hottboiinnnc
join:2003-08-27
Fremont, OH
| reply to BIGMIKE
Re: All your data belong to Microsoft
True this does not have anything to do with the postings. And then also what company doesnt sell your information anymore. AOL does? So what makes MS any different? AOL sells your Internet surfing habbits and sells those? but also look at GAIN as well? Those do as well
So why just target MS.. just because they offer better products then others and why sit and sue them over it? And its only time for Linux to find them selves in court as well. |
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Sarick
It's Only Logical
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join:2003-06-03
USA
·FrontierNet Intern..
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Re: Microsoft
I agree the RealOne Player is full of Adware, Malware or was it Spyware.
Whatever it loads itself into memory every boot and contantly tried to connect to the internet.
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dweeb
join:2002-06-23
Ferndale, MI | reply to SystemE
I agree. Realplayer is the biggest pile of crap out there. |
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switchd
join:2003-12-17
Hollidaysburg, PA
|  reply to Ronnie123
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i think it's a dangerous trend to punish companies simply for giving people the features they want.
Features they want?!? I don't want WMP on my machine period. If a video I want to see is wma format, I won't watch it or will find another version of it. There are plenty of better formats available.
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I felt the same way about netscape... If they want people to use their software instead of the software included with the operating system they should make it better.... not cry because their software isn't good enough to be competitive.
I use Netscape and in my opinion it is far superior to IE in features, security, aesthetics and reliability. I also like the way Mail, Composer, Address Book and Navigator are so integrated into one aesthetically pleasing and functional application.
There is no simple way to completely uninstall IE or WMP from Windows. I don't like them and don't need them taking up space on my HD. What kind of OS is Windows if it doesn't function properly just because you remove a program?!
This is just my opinion. I know there are people that don't agree but there are also people who agree completely and that is the why we are supposed to have a choice along with the fact that competition drives innovation. MS isn't going to further browser or video technology if there is no reason to. This is all just my humble opinion.
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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This lawsuit is a total farce. Then microsoft can counter sue claiming real and AOL don't bundle WMP with AOL. This is getting out of hand and this is just how the United states is turning no one works for a living they all sue to get what others have. It's sickening. They wonder why our jobs are being exported to other countries and the economy is in the crapper. God help us all if this one floats.
It stinks !!! And I hate it!!!
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