ArchAngel21x
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join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE
 ·Internet Nebraska
| I Don't Like This
I don't like this at all. First the latest release of Zone Alarm screws around with my mail program, and now this? Time to look into Norton's Firewall...
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Cop
Premium
join:2001-09-05
Auburn, AL | Great... There goes my firewall.  |
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
| reply to ArchAngel21x
Norton sucks!
...besides, if you're an average user and don't host any services, just block all the ports and use NAT, you almost don't need a firewall.
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WWV_1
join:2002-05-14
Mesa, AZ |  reply to ArchAngel21x
zone alarm and email ?
How did it screw with your Email program??? For about a month now, mine has been stating that the email area of this program is not fully functional....any ideas?
I'm using Outlook and zone alarm pro. |
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wtansill
Ncc1701
join:2000-10-10
Falls Church, VA
| reply to kapil
Re: I Don't Like This
said by kapil  :
Norton sucks!
...besides, if you're an average user and don't host any services, just block all the ports and use NAT, you almost don't need a firewall.
Not so. A NAT firewall will not prevent outbound traffic, so you can't stop things like Media Player or other similarly inclined programs from connecting to the internet at arbitrary intervals and "phoning home". ZA lets me know when this happens, and lets me block these outbound connections.
For an example, go to www.grc.com and download LeakTest.
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
| True. However, the odds are that you've installed these applications yourself...and the bigger security risk is from stuff trying to come in, not from sleazware trying to call home.
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ArchAngel21x
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join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE
·Internet Nebraska
| reply to WWV_1
Re: zone alarm and email ?
said by WWV_1 :
How did it screw with your Email program???
I use IncrediMail. I noticed that recently it was freezing up. When I contacted the makers of IncrediMail to troubleshoot, they said the latest version of Zone Alarm was causing problems with various programs. When I contacted tech support at Zone Labs, they confirmed this.
From: support@zonelabs.com
Date: 12/12/2003 12:35:16 PM
To: xxx@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Zone Labs Technical Support: Tech Support Ticket: Other ENTRY=242893 PROJ=4
This applies to
All ZoneAlarm Products 4.5.530
Summary
My game or program will no longer connect, or hangs, when I'm
running version 4.5.530
Solution
Thank you for your feedback regarding games/programs no longer
connecting under version 4.5.530 (but worked properly in earlier
versions).
This has been reproduced at Zone Labs, and the developers are investigating. It should be fixed in the next release (no set date but should be this month).
Meanwhile the only workaround is to use the previous 4.0 version that worked for you.
This also makes me mad because anything security related should be updated constantly. Now I will hesitate on updating because I now have the mentality, if everything is working now I don't want to risk screwing something up with a faulty update.
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CrazyJr
join:2003-02-27
Oakland, CA | I haven't updated my ZoneAlarm. I think I still have 3.7.? version. I'll have to go home and find out. |
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watchman57
My Sis And I 4 And 3 Yrs Old
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join:2001-06-08
Siler City, NC
| reply to ArchAngel21x
Re: I Don't Like This
While your looking into Norton's Firewall you should be aware that Norton has an Activation scheme like Microsoft for there software. They also have really increased the cost of their renewal subscriptions. The cost went up about 20 to 25 percent this year.
Best Regards,
Chris
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ArchAngel21x
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join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE | Well crap. Maybe it's time to go without a firewall.
Just kidding  |
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tdkyo
join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY | reply to kapil
Hardware firewall does all the hard work for me!  No resource drain! |
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ArchAngel21x
MacFan Pro
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join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE
1 edit | Nevermind. |
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gzt7d8
My Little Weiner Schnitzel
Premium
join:2001-07-13
Swartz Creek, MI | reply to Cop
I just bought a 12 month extension to my current subscription.
So did I throw my money $$ away?
I sure hope not.
Greg |
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mod bait
Premium
join:2001-06-11
Rochester, NY
| reply to kapil
said by kapil :
True. However, the odds are that you've installed these applications yourself...and the bigger security risk is from stuff trying to come in, not from sleazware trying to call home.
That's simply not true. If you have a hardware firewall, nothing is coming in. The only risk--sometimes even if you are very careful--is outbound traffic.
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
| If you are an average home user, and use your broadband connection for surfing, email etc....don't have any ports open/forwarded/mapped on your router and are using NAT, there is virtually no SECURITY risk. The security risk comes from inbound traffic. Stupid-user risk, for example installing bonzi buddy which then tries to phone home every 30 seconds is a different matter entirely. Bonzi buddy is not a security risk....it's a matter of user education.
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Plldwnyrpnts
join:2003-04-19
Chicago, IL
| Exactly!
I never ever use application protection as it's more of a pain in the ass then anything. Especially to an educated computer user. The truly sad thing is the uneducated computer users have NO idea what to block or let through to begin with. So where exactly is application protection practical? |
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mod bait
Premium
join:2001-06-11
Rochester, NY
| reply to kapil
said by kapil :
If you are an average home user, and use your broadband connection for surfing, email etc....don't have any ports open/forwarded/mapped on your router and are using NAT, there is virtually no SECURITY risk. The security risk comes from inbound traffic. Stupid-user risk, for example installing bonzi buddy which then tries to phone home every 30 seconds is a different matter entirely. Bonzi buddy is not a security risk....it's a matter of user education.
Ever heard of malware?
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AkumalDave
Life's A Beach
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join:2001-04-20
Minneapolis, MN
| reply to gzt7d8
said by gzt7d8 :
So did I throw my money $$ away?
When you find out, let me know. My subscription expires in a couple of weeks...
Dave (wondering what to do)
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NOVA_Guy
Obama- Commander in Thief
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join:2002-03-05
 ·VOIPo
| reply to kapil
said by kapil :
...besides, if you're an average user and don't host any services, just block all the ports and use NAT, you almost don't need a firewall.
Yes, but there are some of us that need more than that. For example:
I occasionally run IIS and Cold Fusion server on my laptop as a result of one of the software development projects I am on. I also sometimes work from Starbucks via their wireless network (hey, I've got a T-Mobile Hotspot subscription and Starbucks is right across the street). On the instances that I am working on the project listed above from Starbucks, I would prefer to be running at least some kind of software firewall to ensure that only requests from my machine are accepted and processed by the web server-- nobody else should have access to my project or files. Now, I realize that I can do this without ZoneAlarm, but life is a lot easier doing it with ZoneAlarm.
There are also some other things that I like, like Cache Cleaner and their privacy settings.
The bottom line, I guess, is this: Do I/does everybody need ZoneAlarm? No. Does it make life easier and give me peace of mind? Yes. It is for this reason that I hope ZoneAlarm does not disappear or become unaffordable.
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C4
@nuria.telefonica | reply to AkumalDave
>wondering what to do Check out Kerio's KPF
cheers C4 |
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