jolmy
The Spring 2004
join:2003-03-20
Malaysia
|  [OT] Rockfall at NKVE
It's time now for the authorities to check on all other hillslopes along all expressways and roads in the country to ensure the safety to road users.
The following areas are among those that should be given priority:
1) NKVE (Jalan Duta - Bukit Lanjan, the slope on both sides near the toll).
2) NSE (Tapah - Gopeng, particularly near Gua Tempurung where a landslide occurred in 1996).
3) NSE (Jelapang - Kuala Kangsar, particularly near the tunnel).
4) KL-Karak Expressway (particularly near tunnel & road to Genting)
5) Road to Genting.
6) Tapah - Cameron Highlands road. |
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purelander
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join:2003-07-11
忍 | you should forward this to yang berbahagia datok seri sammy vellu, or fax to his office. |
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zeone
Me
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join:2003-04-24
Msia
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Our forever "Bright" Samy Vellu told reporters in news item yesterday that PLUS already checked the area a few weeks ago and found no danger...the incident was UNEXPECTED!!
So...? What's the point of checking anyway...??:(
Anything happens and it will be "UNEXPECTED", rite?:D:D
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teh
Gekke Kraai
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Malaysia
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said by purelander  :
you should forward this to yang berbahagia datok seri sammy vellu, or fax to his office.
Fax him? It will either end in the rubbish bin or become emergency toilet paper.
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jolmy
The Spring 2004
join:2003-03-20
Malaysia | Three Rockslide Sites Identified Along NSE - Samy Vellu
»www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news.php?id=31590 |
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es2
join:2003-07-17
Malaysia | reply to zeone
and they also blame it to rain... to me not so professional. the engineers should take that into account way, way, way, much earlier during designing the road.
malaysians always like that when dealing with problems. always blame it to nature. |
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jolmy
The Spring 2004
join:2003-03-20
Malaysia
1 edit | said by es2 :
and they also blame it to rain... to me not so professional. the engineers should take that into account way, way, way, much earlier during designing the road.
malaysians always like that when dealing with problems. always blame it to nature.
Take for instance the Jalan Duta - Bukit Lanjan stretch (the one heading to/from KL) where they cut open the hill just about 2km from the toll plaza.... I feel that they should have build a tunnel instead of cutting the hill open.
As for the Bukit Lanjan - Kota Damansara stretch, they should have avoided building the Bukit Lanjan interchange & the NKVE at that place. It would be better if the alignment is slightly further away instead of cutting open the hill to build the interchange & the NKVE. |
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p4r4g0n
Tanstaafl
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 ·Streamyx
| The trend of going for cheap over quality is a common in all developing countries regardless of the long term higher costs. This is a known fact and is pretty well documented.
This becomes a critical issue when essential maintenance is skimped or forgone due to costs. |
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ThirdShifter
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here's some picture's so it would be documented in BBR as well
I'm sure these guys know it will eventually happen. Calculated risk.
It has happened numerous times, and i'm sure will happen again.
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purelander
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忍 | reply to jolmy
the engineers they are all top-notch engineers, their calculation is so accurate that the rock fell only on public holiday, we gotta give credit where it is due. |
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teh
Gekke Kraai
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Malaysia
2 edits | lmao. Workworks in Malaysia sucks and we have him to thank for it. In Bayan Lepas, Penang. They wanted to build overhead pass(bridge). I think it is already several years(maybe 1 or 2 elections already I think) it is just halfway done. Maybe another 2 elections later it will finish.
Edit:
I don't live thus I don't exactly know how long already, but I know the building of it has been way too long time.
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purelander
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join:2003-07-11
忍 | reply to jolmy
15-16 yrs are not considered long, you know it's an "overhead" bridge, it'd take Japan at least 20 yrs to finish a similar project. |
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waryon
join:2003-03-27
4 edits | reply to purelander
The problem of 'overhead bridge' is mainly due to funding rather than technical issues. |
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teh
Gekke Kraai
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2 edits | reply to purelander
said by purelander :
15-16 yrs are not considered long, you know it's an "overhead" bridge, it'd take Japan at least 20 yrs to finish a similar project.
Bah it is not even more than 1km. Probably the developers never paid the contractors. The few times I passed through I don't even see a single worker. The $$$ along the way must have been *slurrp* up by somebody at the top.
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teh
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1 edit | reply to waryon
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waryon
join:2003-03-27
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better not starting this project though, causing traffic jam for several years already due to abandoned works. I don't know why this project is needed though, already got new seaside highway as an alternative route.
PS: how to delete the wrongly attachment? |
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teh
Gekke Kraai
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| said by waryon :
PS: how to delete the wrongly attachment?
No way to do so I think. You can try make a mock jpg with the word DELETE WRONG ATTACHMENT 
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waryon
join:2003-03-27
1 edit | reply to purelander
said by purelander :
the engineers they are all top-notch engineers, their calculation is so accurate that the rock fell only on public holiday
That's a good one. Can get noble prize liao. LOL
Better buy some special insurance for landslide and 'nature' caused disaster. Not forgeting also car insurance for flooding next time. haha
LOL
PS: Thanks teh. Sorry for the wrong attachment, messing up the file. |
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jolmy
The Spring 2004
join:2003-03-20
Malaysia
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said by purelander :
the engineers they are all top-notch engineers, their calculation is so accurate that the rock fell only on public holiday, we gotta give credit where it is due.
LMAO...
they should have take into account possibility of rockslides/landslides/whatever-slides when designing the expressways.
first of all, the designers of the expressway should have avoided hilly locations whenever possible or a tunnel is built instead.
1) Tapah - Gopeng stretch
the expressway could have built to pass through Kampar, which would have avoided the hilly areas around Gua Tempurung.
It was also reported that originally, PLUS was to build a tunnel across the mountains in Gua Tempurung, but it was later decided against it due to preservation of the caves.
2) NKVE: Jalan Duta - Bukit Lanjan - Damansara stretch
tunnels should have been built along the Jalan Duta stretch instead of cutting hills. As for the Bukit Lanjan area, due to the area being an interchange, 2 tunnels.. or perhaps the expressway should have been aligned at a different site. |
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waryon
join:2003-03-27 | reply to jolmy
In engineering term, I am sure there are many ways to accomplish a project/mission which will have distinct advantages one from the other. But in reality, the cost effective way will be always the priority to be consider.
That's the real world. |
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