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PhragX

join:2001-11-01
justice

Serves him right. I wonder how you catch something like that though...


Jerm

join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA

 He got caught by:

"The case began two weeks ago Wednesday, at 5 a.m., when Sgt. Don Woods of 11 Division noticed a vehicle driving the wrong way down a one-way street in a residential neighbourhood.

When Woods stopped the car, he noticed the driver, a man, was naked from the waist down. In the car was a laptop computer and on its screen was an image of a 10-year-old girl in a sex act with an adult male."

Moral of the story: Don't be a dumb@ss and try to j-off while driving the wrong way down a one way street.

They would have never caught him electronically. Wardriving itsself is a legal "gray" area, but even if it was illegal it would be nearly impossible to catch someone.
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trevor9

join:2003-03-03
EDM

  A complete freak, no doubt.

How could you track him down? Well a starting point is the media access controller network ID. At some point it was purchased from a wholesaler or retailer. May lead to nothing but that's one example of how you get that ball rolling. Ever seen the ham radio/ airwave police that drive around? Maybe not in the US but in Canada we have those dudes. They could evolve to monitor wireless internet traffic by looking for that tube of invisible data and see what/why/when/where (ad-hoc etc). That's the best part of wireless, its out there u just have to know how to get it . Plus, do you honestly think the goverment would allow you to have a technology that they can't break into or know everything about? Ridiculous but in reality very hard to find that needle in the hay stack.
-T


Maxo
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join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
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reply to Jerm
You'd think the guy would have at least put the monitor down and slipped his computer under his seat. This guy clearly lacked any amount of common sense.
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Snickerdo
Premium
join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON


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reply to Jerm
said by Jerm See Profile:
They would have never caught him electronically. Wardriving itsself is a legal "gray" area, but even if it was illegal it would be nearly impossible to catch someone.
Very grey area, especially in Canada. While downloading child porn is definitely illegal and he should be locked up for quite some time, war driving technically isn't illegal under the Radiocommunications Act. In fact, it's actually illegal for someone to encrypt their wireless network without a valid government license. Anything unencrypted that is passed over the airwaves is free for anyone to accept and use. You'll note that in Canada, listening to and recording analog cell phone conversations is quite legal. While what he was doing was disgusting and he'll end up in jail for the child porn charges, I highly doubt the theft of telecommunications charge will stick. That actual law governs wireline communications, not unencrypted, unlicensed, wireless communications.

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GoD of KaOs
Agent of KaOs

join:2001-01-29
Chatsworth, CA

reply to PhragX
Re: justice

said by PhragX See Profile:
Serves him right. I wonder how you catch something like that though...

I don't know how they knew his was going to child porno sites, but some routes can show you the Mac addresss that's being used on the network.

Now I don't know if the cops caught him in the act, or if someone noticed their connection was getting slow and logged into their router and checked some of the stats and logs.
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Googled
Yay, I have FIOS

join:2001-08-13
Orchard Park, NY

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reply to PhragX
Hope they throw the book at him for the child porn. I doubt that telecommuncations theft will stick, but it was probably was added on to make his bail higher.


WallyThacker
The Central Scrutinizer

join:2002-02-12
Canada

reply to Snickerdo
Re: He got caught by:

said by Snickerdo See Profile:
said by Jerm See Profile:
Anything unencrypted that is passed over the airwaves is free for anyone to accept and use.

Not quite.
The Radio Secrecy Act stipulates that for non-commercial stuff
1. We can't profit from the contents
2. No divulging the contents to third parties.
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Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON

said by WallyThacker See Profile:

Not quite.
The Radio Secrecy Act stipulates that for non-commercial stuff
1. We can't profit from the contents
2. No divulging the contents to third parties..
Can't profit from the contents is correct, but there is MUCH more to the third parties clause. Like I said, I can record an analog cell conversation in the 800MHz band and post it on the internet legally. It has happened before, and the federal government outright said there was nothing they could do so long as it didn't make any money off the website.

In fact, a search for the Radio Secrecy Act returned no results. You can easily get the entire contents of the Radiocommunications Act online. I have never heard of the Radio Secrecy Act before, and neither have any of my hamming friends. News to me.
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DaneJasper
Sonic.Net
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join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
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reply to trevor9
Note that many 802.11 cards allow you to change the MAC address.

-Dane

jimraelee

join:2003-03-19
Gresham, OR

reply to GoD of KaOs
Re: justice

Yes some routers will show the mac addy... but the common joe out there dosnet know what to look for... think of this.... Broadband in the Portland area is on the rise, like other areas of the us... but lots cable and dsl popping up.... As i hear about friends and what not getting the new internet connection I talk to them about firewall and protection... Most are ignorant to it... Most I find are just connecting to the www to do some surfing and thats it. They basically walk to computer and expect it to work correclty and connect ...let them download what ever they want recipes... news... yahoo sites... and then their done. They never think of the security issue. Further more even some of the "computre friends" I have still dont know how to open ports or enable or check logs on there routers... so you have to know what MAC addy is and most seem to not know or care...

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL

reply to Snickerdo
Re: He got caught by:

said by Snickerdo See Profile:
said by WallyThacker See Profile:

Not quite.
The Radio Secrecy Act stipulates that for non-commercial stuff
1. We can't profit from the contents
2. No divulging the contents to third parties..
Can't profit from the contents is correct, but there is MUCH more to the third parties clause.

Hmmm, wonder how news agencies get around not being able to divulge police traffic (since they report traffic incidents and respond to fire and hostage situations) and make profit.


WallyThacker
The Central Scrutinizer

join:2002-02-12
Canada
Police, ambulance, fire and so are licensed as commercial. Different rules apply.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
Not in the USA, they are licensed as public safety, not commercial.
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