LC8290
Ms. Croft 2 U
join:2003-04-30
Cleveland, TX | wow
an utter loss of words. |
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Big Time
Fuster Cluck
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join:2002-10-19
Washington
|  said by LC8290  :
an utter loss of words.
I've got a few, but this is a family forum.......
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LC8290
Ms. Croft 2 U
join:2003-04-30
Cleveland, TX
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that's all we need, non-computer people making decisions and rules about our computers.
*jumps off cliff* |
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Omega
Displaced Ohioan
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join:2002-07-30
Cheyenne, WY
clubs:  | reply to LC8290
Our government working for us.
Why don't they take this time and repeal the DMCA?
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Cyron
join:2002-09-24
Charlotte, NC
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This is not a issue where computer literacy comes into the spotlight. It's very similar to the telemarketing problem. Common sense should tell you that having to opt-out from each corporation individually could take years to do. Since these corporations are governed by US law, it would be very simple to create a 'Do-not-spam' list for them to follow.
I know it wouldn't help with the overseas spam kings, but it would be a step in the right direction. This legislation accomplishes nothing (except adding to our representative's coffers). |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| Wrong. It does accomplish something. If you sign up for the do not spam registry, it will 100% guarantee that you will be signed up for EVERY mailing list in the world. And you will never be able to get off. You will be forced to remove and recreate your email account under a new name. Thanks to the morons in office.
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LC8290
Ms. Croft 2 U
join:2003-04-30
Cleveland, TX |  to me this "do-not-spam" list is just what spammers are waiting for. someone hacks the list, we are all screwed.
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91439306
15,000 Watts of Bass Power
join:2002-10-16
New Milford, CT | reply to wentlanc
The ultimate solution will come from the ISPs---after they've lost all their customers who decided that e-mail has become useless to them and cancel their internet accounts by the millions. Then SPAM will stop.. |
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tdkyo
join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY | reply to Omega
Sorry, they are actually working for a tiny part of "us". They don't work for the majority of the peopl. |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
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Actually, I think that the solution falls in the creation of a new protocol for mail. One that requires registration of the sending/forwarding agents. This will eliminate these guys from starting up a pop3 server on a linux box. Outside of locking things down, nothing else will help. The honor system does not work in this world. That on top of something like a DNS list may work.
puritan |
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Vvian Kalyss
join:2003-10-14
Stage 5.0
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|  I fully agree. The current system is broken; no matter how many laws you throw at it, the situation WILL NOT CHANGE until we replace it with a protocol with better accountability. Why not push it in with the IPv6 change?
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TheHelpful1
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join:2002-01-11
Upper Marlboro, MD
| Not a Do-not-email list. Have an "I can email" list.
Just like those picture words sites like yahoo use to verify its a human creating the account and not a bot.
Before you can send anything, you must prove that your a human and not a bot or a fake account trying to spam people. Until your email is "certified", no ISP will pass it through their servers.
For example, to be certified, before Earthlink will pass your @yahoo.com email to an earthlink customer, Earthlink will check with Yahoo to make sure X@yahoo.com is an actual account created by a human and is not mass messaging other's inboxes.
Yes, this will build a database of "certified" accounts that would make any Spam king salivate 10 times over. So lets make the hacking of this database and distribution of this list carry a harsher penalty than what Kevin Mitnick(sp?) got. I mean, if we can DMCA people's free speech into oblivion, why not toss them away for this?
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W8ASA
Tieng gi vay?
join:2000-07-31
Dayton, OH
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I don't mind getting e-mail advertisements from companies which don't forge the headers, because if I don't like their messages or their products I can simply filter out the IP address or e-mail address from which they are sent. No problem there. The "scam spammers", with their forged everything, are the problem, and they MUST be stopped. We, as Internet users, must be able to trust in the honesty of the system itself. I know that ISPs could go a long way toward helping if they would automatically check the IP of an incoming message against its header information, and stop all those with forged headers.
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