riekl
join:2000-06-01
Caledonia, MI
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to JeepMatt
Re: Home Networking is ON!
Surprised that this hasn't really been mentioned here .. but you don't need to add a second router in order to get more machines on the net.
Just give your machine's static IP's (not like they ever need to change anyway) i.e. i dont know the range the comcast does but if it is 192.168.100.0 like normal just assign your workstations 192.168.100.2 - 192.168.100.254 (.128 if they are forcing a .128 subnet mask on the router) and set your default gateway to 192.168.100.1 poof you have 128 or 254 ip's not relying on dhcp. I ALWAYS use statics for private ip's .. why ? #1) makes it easier to do port forwarding since things never change, #2) on bootup it takes a second or two less to acquire the network with a static vs dhcp address  and that second or two is vaulable to me ! |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
 ·WOW Internet and C..
| It doesn't work that way with that router. It already has a pool of 5 IP addresses that it will allow to access the internet. It will not allow any IP addresses that are out of its range internet access. So if you want more than 5 IPs then you have to stack a second router. |
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riekl
join:2000-06-01
Caledonia, MI
·AT&T U-Verse
| imrf,
I will have to see this tommrow .. i am not aware of how they could restrict it. Yes they can limit the # of dhcp address's but unless they are using 5 static routes there is no way to limit it to 5 ip's for outbound traffic.
If the routers external address is (for example)
12.1.1.1/255.255.255.0 and its internal address is 192.168.100.1/255.255.255.0 (or 128 i keep hearing conflicting reports on this)
Then ANYTHING coming in the 192.168.100.1 interface that matches its local subnet will be forwarded back out the 12.1.1.1 interface. And even if they have static routes built in, there are all sorts of ways via SNMP to modify those |
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questionhere
@attbi.com
| reply to JeepMatt
I have a netgear RP114, will that work alright with this? I want to keep my Cat5 and lan the way it is now, being wired not wireless that is. The router dihes out IP's begining with:
192.168.0.2 Will it work if I just get the new networking modem/router and plug it into my negear router? basicly the same as I have it now except with the new modem. I have 3 PC's right now with the router. Thank you. |
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salwit
join:2000-12-20
Brockport, NY | reply to JeepMatt
yes but tou need comcast router/modem combo to get the 4000-384 speeds. |
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marvin1
The Atkisson Fortress
Premium
join:2000-05-19
Lynnwood, WA
clubs:  | reply to JeepMatt
I was told that I would be getting the speeds that you posted....are these part of Comcast's speed upgrades? |
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marvin1
The Atkisson Fortress
Premium
join:2000-05-19
Lynnwood, WA
clubs: | reply to imrf
The way I was told that its $57.95 a month for that whole thing...and $99 for the install charge. But I am not sure about $40.95 that you are refering to. |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI | That price is for certain Comcast areas, it is an incentive to get people to switch to the HN package at a discounted rate for 6 months, then it goes back to the normal price. |
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marvin1
The Atkisson Fortress
Premium
join:2000-05-19
Lynnwood, WA
clubs: | Ahhh...I get it:) |
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riekl
join:2000-06-01
Caledonia, MI
·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to JeepMatt
imrf,
Close .. the $99 is a promotional install rate (its normally $199) but $57.95/month is the normal price for HN. The 6 month discount rate is 42.95/mo. (giver or take $3 i dont have my setup sheet in front of me)
At least these are my prices (western michigan). |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
1 edit | Eastern MI has different prices due to a competing cable company. The price is $40.95 plus the standard $5 modem rental fee and the install fee is the same $99. |
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riekl
join:2000-06-01
Caledonia, MI
·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to JeepMatt
Well comcast techs are here and hooked everything up .. but i'm only getting 1700/256 , does it take a few hours for the HN config file ? Is there something else they need to do ?
Also what is the password to the router ? i saw the user name was comcast and the pw was a 4 digit number .. but dont know what the number was ? |
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china crisis
join:2003-05-28
| said by riekl  :
Well comcast techs are here and hooked everything up .. but i'm only getting 1700/256 , does it take a few hours for the HN config file ? Is there something else they need to do ?
Also what is the password to the router ? i saw the user name was comcast and the pw was a 4 digit number .. but dont know what the number was ?
»homenetworking.comcast.net/learnmore.asp#5 |
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riekl
join:2000-06-01
Caledonia, MI | reply to JeepMatt
Thanks brent ! got into the config my setup is almost done ..
but .. i am still at 1.7M/256K .. should i call comcast ? |
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china crisis
join:2003-05-28
| From all the posts I'v read here over the last few weeks,you reciving a config file on home networking of 1.8/256 is impossible.According to all the posts the only config file that router will pull is the H.N. config file.Yes I'd call comcast and see if they can change it. |
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riekl
join:2000-06-01
Caledonia, MI | reply to JeepMatt
Ok cause i dont think its impossible i've done east coast, west coast, 4 differnt speakeasy tests, AND the optimum ftp server and they all confirm the exact same results .. 1.8/256 |
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vulture99
join:2002-10-28
Corvallis, OR
| reply to JeepMatt
Home Networking appears to be available in my area, at least according to Comcast's availability tool.
Questions:
(1) I currently have 1800 downstream. For essentially the same price, this will bump me up to 4000/384? What's the catch?
(2) I currently do not have cable TV. Will they charge me extra to set that up as well? I may as well get it installed so that I can get the cheaper rate.
(3) I don't want the techs messing with my systems. I have 2 Windows boxes and 1 Linux box sitting behind an SMC router and an SB4100. None are wireless, and they don't need to be made wireless. I also plug in my work laptop sometimes, which can either be wired or wireless. Can I just tell them to set up the modem/router and then take a hike?
(4) Can anyone see a reason to NOT go for the HN plan? I mean, I can still hook up my existing router and the rest of my equipment to get around the 5 IP restriction, if needed.
Thanks! |
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riekl
join:2000-06-01
Caledonia, MI
·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to JeepMatt
same price ? HN = $10 more then silver ..
you have to use their router and the first pc they do hook up "wired" just tell them to stop there and you can hook your other ones up yourself otherwise they WILL use the usb wireless the techs are monkeys they have a book that says pc #1 = wired pc #2 = wireless, and they follow it
(obviously there is an exception to every rule if you somehow get a tech that actually understands the concepts and not just step a followed by step b then they may set up the wired ones for you but its much easier to do it yourself).
As to reasons to "not" do HN well .. you have to use their equipment .. and you are limited to 5 internal ip's unless you hook up another router cascaded to it. |
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vulture99
join:2002-10-28
Corvallis, OR
1 edit | reply to JeepMatt
said by riekl :
same price ? HN = $10 more then silver ..
Hmmm, ok. Well, I currently pay $52.95/mo but that's the "without cable TV" option. I can't remember what the silver plan currently costs *with* cable TV, but I thought it was around the same price.
Home Networking plan is $52.95/mo with cable TV, and $67.95/mo without cable TV. I got those prices here after typing in my address and zip code.
So for me it would cost the same as what I'm currently paying, as long as I also get cable TV installed. Which is why I asked whether there is any extra cost in getting cable TV set up.
Thanks. |
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riekl
join:2000-06-01
Caledonia, MI
·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to JeepMatt
Of course there is Otherwise everyone would have basic cable and just not use it
"Basic 1" (the lowest level of cable in my area) costs $13.50/month.
So I did get basic 1 + HN in my case because even if you DONT get it you are paying for it with the "without cable tv" rates. Either way i was going to be paying $70 for internet it just depened on if i wanted the cable tv with it or not
So in short .. yes cable tv is going to cost you money in addition to the home networking. |
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