homer388
join:2002-07-16
Minneapolis, MN | reply to hryb
Re: Home Networking is ON!
Yup that's what i did to get my old network to go out.Just change the wan side of the old router to match the New network.Saved me time in reconfiguration |
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hryb
join:2001-12-22
Kenmore, WA | reply to JeepMatt
Hello? anyone here ?
Is this thing on? |
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hryb
join:2001-12-22
Kenmore, WA
| reply to William Payton
I am trying to get up to speed (no pun intended) on the Home Networking option. I am in Seattle, so I don't think it's available yet. I have an extensive wired/wireless network already in my house (who doesn't) and my Microsoft routers are working great. What I'd like to do (and I want someone to confirm) is to get the HN option and just plug my existing MS MN700 router into the Linksys device, and then place it in the DMZ. I then would to all of my own admining via the MN700. Would that work? I see a lot of people discussing plugging their router into the Linksys.....but I can't seem to get confirmation that it ACTUALLY WORKS...thus bypassing the 5 IP address limitation of HN.
Thanks. |
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William Payton
join:2001-01-27
Hinesville, GA
| reply to JeepMatt
Any modem on the Comcast network will accept the 4500 download 384 upload config file. However, it is a simple matter of Comcast not even considering to send the config file to customers who did not elect the HN package, and/or do not have a pro account.
I have had the pro account since it was initially offered. 3.0/256 and now its 4500/384 in my area. So there is no need for me to get the HN package.
BTW: I pay $20 bucks per month for the enhanced pro line and full tv package including VOD w/ 1/2 price PPV.
Tech 526
Southern Georgia |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
 ·WOW Internet and C..
| reply to wissahic
That is pretty close to what one of the reasons are. Comcast does have access to remotely change the settings of the router itself, but in no way can they see what machines are on the router or anything like that. Those back doors are needed for the people who have no clue on how to network so that the tech can just go in change the settings and then tell the customer to have a great day. But otherwise yes, you have to take their modem/router combo, or you won't get the speeds for that price. |
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wissahic
join:2003-10-07
Philadelphia, PA
| reply to vulture99
If it's any help, I have it from a reliable source, that the reason that Comcast insists on you using their equipment for HN plan is because this equipment that is manufactured by Linksys for Comcast and has back doors for tech support and network trouble shooting. This would allow Comcast access to your entire network. I have this from a manager from Comcast and I was just discussing this with them over the weekend. You may want to confirm (if you can) with Comcast whether or not this is the case? |
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riekl
join:2000-06-01
Caledonia, MI
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to JeepMatt
Of course there is  Otherwise everyone would have basic cable and just not use it
"Basic 1" (the lowest level of cable in my area) costs $13.50/month.
So I did get basic 1 + HN in my case because even if you DONT get it you are paying for it with the "without cable tv" rates. Either way i was going to be paying $70 for internet it just depened on if i wanted the cable tv with it or not
So in short .. yes cable tv is going to cost you money in addition to the home networking. |
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vulture99
join:2002-10-28
Corvallis, OR
1 edit | reply to JeepMatt
said by riekl  :
same price ? HN = $10 more then silver ..
Hmmm, ok. Well, I currently pay $52.95/mo but that's the "without cable TV" option. I can't remember what the silver plan currently costs *with* cable TV, but I thought it was around the same price.
Home Networking plan is $52.95/mo with cable TV, and $67.95/mo without cable TV. I got those prices here after typing in my address and zip code.
So for me it would cost the same as what I'm currently paying, as long as I also get cable TV installed. Which is why I asked whether there is any extra cost in getting cable TV set up.
Thanks. |
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riekl
join:2000-06-01
Caledonia, MI
·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to JeepMatt
same price ? HN = $10 more then silver ..
you have to use their router and the first pc they do hook up "wired" just tell them to stop there and you can hook your other ones up yourself otherwise they WILL use the usb wireless the techs are monkeys they have a book that says pc #1 = wired pc #2 = wireless, and they follow it
(obviously there is an exception to every rule if you somehow get a tech that actually understands the concepts and not just step a followed by step b then they may set up the wired ones for you but its much easier to do it yourself).
As to reasons to "not" do HN well .. you have to use their equipment .. and you are limited to 5 internal ip's unless you hook up another router cascaded to it. |
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vulture99
join:2002-10-28
Corvallis, OR
| reply to JeepMatt
Home Networking appears to be available in my area, at least according to Comcast's availability tool.
Questions:
(1) I currently have 1800 downstream. For essentially the same price, this will bump me up to 4000/384? What's the catch?
(2) I currently do not have cable TV. Will they charge me extra to set that up as well? I may as well get it installed so that I can get the cheaper rate.
(3) I don't want the techs messing with my systems. I have 2 Windows boxes and 1 Linux box sitting behind an SMC router and an SB4100. None are wireless, and they don't need to be made wireless. I also plug in my work laptop sometimes, which can either be wired or wireless. Can I just tell them to set up the modem/router and then take a hike?
(4) Can anyone see a reason to NOT go for the HN plan? I mean, I can still hook up my existing router and the rest of my equipment to get around the 5 IP restriction, if needed.
Thanks! |
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riekl
join:2000-06-01
Caledonia, MI | reply to JeepMatt
Ok cause i dont think its impossible i've done east coast, west coast, 4 differnt speakeasy tests, AND the optimum ftp server and they all confirm the exact same results .. 1.8/256 |
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china crisis
join:2003-05-28
| reply to riekl
From all the posts I'v read here over the last few weeks,you reciving a config file on home networking of 1.8/256 is impossible.According to all the posts the only config file that router will pull is the H.N. config file.Yes I'd call comcast and see if they can change it. |
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riekl
join:2000-06-01
Caledonia, MI | reply to JeepMatt
Thanks brent ! got into the config my setup is almost done ..
but .. i am still at 1.7M/256K .. should i call comcast ? |
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china crisis
join:2003-05-28
| reply to riekl
said by riekl :
Well comcast techs are here and hooked everything up .. but i'm only getting 1700/256 , does it take a few hours for the HN config file ? Is there something else they need to do ?
Also what is the password to the router ? i saw the user name was comcast and the pw was a 4 digit number .. but dont know what the number was ?
»homenetworking.comcast.net/learnmore.asp#5 |
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riekl
join:2000-06-01
Caledonia, MI
·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to JeepMatt
Well comcast techs are here and hooked everything up .. but i'm only getting 1700/256 , does it take a few hours for the HN config file ? Is there something else they need to do ?
Also what is the password to the router ? i saw the user name was comcast and the pw was a 4 digit number .. but dont know what the number was ? |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
1 edit | reply to riekl
Eastern MI has different prices due to a competing cable company. The price is $40.95 plus the standard $5 modem rental fee and the install fee is the same $99. |
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riekl
join:2000-06-01
Caledonia, MI
·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to JeepMatt
imrf,
Close .. the $99 is a promotional install rate (its normally $199) but $57.95/month is the normal price for HN. The 6 month discount rate is 42.95/mo. (giver or take $3 i dont have my setup sheet in front of me)
At least these are my prices (western michigan). |
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marvin1
The Atkisson Fortress
Premium
join:2000-05-19
Lynnwood, WA
clubs:  | reply to imrf
Ahhh...I get it:) |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI | reply to marvin1
That price is for certain Comcast areas, it is an incentive to get people to switch to the HN package at a discounted rate for 6 months, then it goes back to the normal price. |
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marvin1
The Atkisson Fortress
Premium
join:2000-05-19
Lynnwood, WA
clubs: | reply to imrf
The way I was told that its $57.95 a month for that whole thing...and $99 for the install charge. But I am not sure about $40.95 that you are refering to. |
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