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drizzy
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join:2002-06-10
Brooklyn, NY
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| Re: Home Networking is ON! Damn comcast really wants their customers to use their equipment, Isn't it just better to get a router and modem and bam instead of going with their home networking option?
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drizzy
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Brooklyn, NY
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| Re: Home Networking is ON! said by JTRockville  :
With your own equipment, you lose the big phat pipe.
Wouldn't the cable modem be able to get the config file easy like that?
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Data Ho
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clubs: | Re: Home Networking is ON! As far as I know, there isn't any technical reason why they couldn't, but Comcast won't push the HN config file to your equipment. | |
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drizzy
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Brooklyn, NY
·Optimum Online
| Re: Home Networking is ON! said by JTRockville :
As far as I know, there isn't any technical reason why they couldn't, but Comcast won't push the HN config file to your equipment.
Yeah I know Im talking about the cable modem they loan you, they should be able to do it....since it's theirs..
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| Re: Home Networking is ON! That's basically what they told me when I called. 
Well, maybe if they don't get a large enough turnout for HN, they'll start letting people use their own equipment. I would guess that most of the people willing to pay the additional bucks for HN aren't the type who will need Comcast support beyond making sure that the signal reaches the modem.  | |
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JeepMatt
Delaware Fios
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE
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| Re: Home Networking is ON! I've owned my own Surfboard for 2 years - and I have / had no problem giving up and renting from Comcast. I'm not sure why some people are SO against it.
Besides - I was paying $95/mo for Pro, now i'm paying $57.95/mo for Home Networking.
PLUS - 1st 3 months are discounted to $40.95! That was a nice surprise this morning!
Thanks to Scott the tech for an awesome job this morning! The system was being stubborn and wouldn't sync with the new modem - but he stuck it out - got my account rebuilt, and BAMM!
PS - JT, I started a NEW job a month ago - not up the ladder enough yet to telecommute
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| said by JeepMatt :
I've owned my own Surfboard for 2 years - and I have / had no problem giving up and renting from Comcast. I'm not sure why some people are SO against it.
Besides - I was paying $95/mo for Pro, now i'm paying $57.95/mo for Home Networking.
There's the difference. I have not been paying for Pro, only the standard package (I felt/feel that Pro was too high priced).
Since you were able to cut costs by going to HN, it certainly made sense to do so. I would be paying more to upgrade to HN. I'm willing to pay more but, I am totally unwilling to be forced to buy/rent equipment that I don't need and I certainly don't want them monkeying with my existing network setup.
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drizzy
Premium,MVM
join:2002-06-10
Brooklyn, NY
·Optimum Online
| Re: Home Networking is ON! said by JTRockville :
Is your aunt getting HN speed, or upgraded silver speed?
She is getting good speed with the normal Comcast Package, I don't think her area has been upgraded to 3Mbps/256kbps yet I have to check.
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join:2003-10-10
Jacksonville, FL
| Data Ho, when you say "daisy-chained" are you referring to hooking YOUR equipment into comcast's? I would pay for the HN to get the speeds if there was a way I could use my own equipment in conjunction with there's....the only thing I need to have control of is port forwarding, for the different services I use on my different machines.
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JTRockville
Data Ho
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| Re: Home Networking is ON! Yes, but when I was a CHSI subscriber I didn't have the HN plan, I had two of my own routers coming off the rented cable modem with a silver subscription. (I did the silver-pro-silver tango, but that was before I had both routers)
On Comcast, I eventually had:
Surfboard 4100 (rented)
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Cisco 1605-R (used for traffic shaping, has only 1 port)
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US Robotics 8000 (NAT with 4 ports, a com port for a dialup modem, and a printer port)
But then I ditched the Surfboard+CHSI and replaced it with a WIC+T1.
I'm guessing you could have the same sort of configuration with Comcast's modem/router combo, but I have no idea which features of their router Comcast allows you to configure. Hopefully JeepMatt will shed some light tonight. | |
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JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
clubs: | Re: Home Networking is ON! PS: I use the term: "my own" loosely. While this equipment is in my possession, I don't actually own any of it. | |
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join:2003-10-04
Antioch, TN
| it is all about controlling the quality of our experience as it was put to me yesterday and also eliminating the hassle of having to train their techs on every brand of router modem combo's out there, whihc would cost comcast lot's of dough, which in turn will make them raise rates before i for one and ready to pay an increase. i for one see no problem with the linksys combo that was installed, actually like having everything in one. less points of contact and hops for your signal to travel through. i have actually seen better throughput on this combo rather from my pro account, my pro account was running the 4300/384 config file. which just so happens to be the same as my HN. just my $.02 | |
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TomClancy
Freedom isn't free
join:2003-04-23
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| Does it look something like this?
said by JeepMatt :
Tech just left from setting up the new Home Networking Option.
To answer your questions, YES - you do need to rent their equipment - it's the only way to download the correct config file.
It's a cool Linksys Wireless Router / Cable Modem - i'll take a pic of it when i get home from work tonight (i'm already late!)
Here's my first speed test - not bad for 4.0 down 384 up!
2003-11-11 09:20:52 EST: 3847 / 360
Your download speed : 3847990 bps, or 3847 kbps.
A 469.7 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 360230 bps, or 360 kbps.
Seems like broadband .. above the 1mbit barrier!
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hello123454
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Wilmington, DE | Re: Home Networking is ON! That just looks like the cable modem not the router combo. | |
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JeepMatt
Delaware Fios
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE
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| Re: Home Networking is ON! No, it sits flat - looks like one of their regular routers.
I'll get a pic this evening..
Stay tuned..
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oliphant5
Got Identity?
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join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA
| Then it becomes and issue that in addition to the monthly fee, you have to pay the rental fees or pay $200 for the gateway. Makes getting an extra 700/128 (unless they're adding the overhead to the 4Mb plans) not really worth 50% more a month plus the reported hefty install fees if they force you to have professional installation.
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oliphant5
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| Do you have access to the config of the router...I'm wondering if you can turn off the wireless portion say for cases where you have an existing 54g network or another router.
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JeepMatt
Delaware Fios
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join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE | Re: Home Networking is ON! Oli-
Yes - it actually has a very nice internal status page where you can do all of that.
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI | Did they charge you and install fee off $99? Or was it a free upgrade? | |
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
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| Re: Home Networking is ON! OK. That's what I heard the pricing was. When you get home, can you post screen shots of the router's configuration screens to see what you are allowed to control, that way maybe some potential customers can see what they are allowed to with it before making any wrong assumptions about what they can and can not do with it. | |
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oliphant5
Got Identity?
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join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA
| Were you "forced" to take the $99 pro install or did you just elect to have it?
And $58 total/mo isn't bad. For some reason I had in my head that it was $58 plus the rental fee. That's basically just the $10 home networking charge they used to have plus $5 equipment rental and you get the better caps...and if you rent already, that's only $2 more.
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JeepMatt
Delaware Fios
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Home Networking is ON! Well, I wouldn't call it "Forced"
But yeah, you can't get around that.
At least the tech was cool...lol..
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oliphant5
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join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA | Re: Home Networking is ON! The one time $99 it kinda steep, but in the long run not the harsh. | |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI | The service is $52.95 with tv service plus $5 for all equipment rental. So it comes out to $57.95. | |
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Premium
join:2003-10-31
Whitehall, PA | Hey Philly Boy, when you say it was a upfront charge for the 99.00 for install, do you mean you had to pay the tech the money or do you get it charge on you bill? | |
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Delaware Fios
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join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE | Re: Home Networking is ON! No, it was put on my bill. | |
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Seven Point Six 2mm Full Metal Jacket
join:2002-05-26
Dwight, IL
| Re: Home Networking is ON! Just wondering, did the tech have to install any software on your computers (ie. comcast logo browser etc.) and are you allowed to change the internal LAN IP addresses? (asking because I like using the 90.0.0.x range for my LAN)
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JeepMatt
Delaware Fios
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE
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| Re: Home Networking is ON! Oli-
My area hasn't been upgraded to 3000 yet - so to answer your question - YES!
No software what so ever was installed - just your typical 192.168.x.x to get to the internal page.
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI | Re: Home Networking is ON! That price is for certain Comcast areas, it is an incentive to get people to switch to the HN package at a discounted rate for 6 months, then it goes back to the normal price. | |
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marvin1
The Atkisson Fortress
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join:2000-05-19
Lynnwood, WA
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oliphant5
Got Identity?
Premium
join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA
| I wonder if anyone has been able to get this HN plan (4000/384) in franchises where they haven't upgraded standard plans to 3000/(256 or 300).
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GoingAnon
@ntso.com | ArmaliteAR10 - don't count on being able to get this if you are really in joliet.
Chicagoland can't get pro so I doubt you can get the same speeds with HN | |
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Seven Point Six 2mm Full Metal Jacket
join:2002-05-26
Dwight, IL
| Re: Home Networking is ON! said by GoingAnon:
ArmaliteAR10 - don't count on being able to get this if you are really in joliet.
Chicagoland can't get pro so I doubt you can get the same speeds with HN
Yea I know. I was just curious.
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TheChosenOne2
I Will Bring Balance
join:2003-08-17
Deep River, CT
| I was speaking to a manager who was out at my house recently about whether or not you could get the Home Networking speeds without using the router/modem combo that Comcast supplies. He basically said what JTRockville said that there was no technical reason why you shouldn't be able to get it without their router/modem combo... he tended to think that it was possible. If I ever feel the need to try and get 4 Mbps / 384 Kbps instead of 3.3 Mbps / 256 Kbps I'll give it a try and see what happens. | |
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Never Enough Time
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join:2001-10-05
united state
| Re: Home Networking is ON! said by TheChosenOne2 :
I was speaking to a manager who was out at my house recently about whether or not you could get the Home Networking speeds without using the router/modem combo that Comcast supplies. He basically said what JTRockville said that there was no technical reason why you shouldn't be able to get it without their router/modem combo... he tended to think that it was possible. If I ever feel the need to try and get 4 Mbps / 384 Kbps instead of 3.3 Mbps / 256 Kbps I'll give it a try and see what happens.
the technical reason is this. We only created config files for the BEFCMUH. Cabledata will not let a rep provision a modem that is not that with the HN config files since config files only exist for that specific modem.
Q:Can we make more cfgs?
A:Yes it takes 2 seconds...
Q:will comcast make them?
A.not likely.
Q:Can a smart rep provision your modem with the BEFCMUH's config file even if you don't have a BEFCMUH and they want to be extremely nice?
A:Yes, but not all modems will accept the file due to some proprietary TLV's in it
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ | How many IP's do they give you with that setup?
It might be worth it to give my PS2 its own IP if they give you more than one.. | |
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JeepMatt
Delaware Fios
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE | Re: Home Networking is ON! Morac-
Well, you get one "IP" (i.e. 68.x.x.x) - but you can have 5 connections off of the router.
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Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
·Comcast
| Re: Home Networking is ON! said by JeepMatt :
Morac-
Well, you get one "IP" (i.e. 68.x.x.x) - but you can have 5 connections off of the router.
Is that 5 places to hook something up, or they only allow 5?
If they only allow 5, could you hook another router to the modem/router and hook up more if you wanted? (I realize that you probably don't know the answer to that unless you tried it already.) | |
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join:2002-04-14
Quakertown, PA | so did you get your wireless card or does the tech get to sell it at the local 7-11 ? | |
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JeepMatt
Delaware Fios
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE | Re: Home Networking is ON! Nice one Rody-
Nahhh.. I didn't need a wireless card. One's already built into my laptop..
How much you think he'll get for it?
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danno86
join:2003-10-10
Jacksonville, FL
| Hmmm, does anyone know if there is a way to put up a DMZ using Comcast's equipment? Because couldn't you DMZ the port that you have your own equipment plugged into? And then, forward the ports you want using your equipment? I'm probably way off here...but it was just a thought.
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cairey
join:2003-01-27
Parkville, MD
| I have spent about $500 on a new modem, router, 802.11a WAP, pcmcia, and desktop card. There is no way I would pay to #1 be charged for something I can do in 30 seconds, #2 be forced to use THEIR equipment, and #3 accept 1 Ip address. I basically have the same setup for A LOT less. The only difference is the speed. The deal itself seems interesting if there was no setup and you could use your own stuff. It will be interesting to see how many people choose to switch. | |
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crowdx
join:2001-10-12
Concord, CA
| So for me it would cost me an extra $12 to get a 4mbps download and also get use of a wireless router, was thinking of getting a wireless router, would be nice to have a legit one from Comcast rather than the present hardwire router.
Is VERY tempting, I currently have 1,7 down in California Bay area, wondering when the new speeds get here,, this might just be a better option, faster upload also,, pretty much blows Pro out of the water
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crowdx
join:2001-10-12
Concord, CA | I may have missed it in the post, but were you already with Comcast? How long for them to come and install it.
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JeepMatt
Delaware Fios
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join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Home Networking is ON! Oli-
No, we don't have TS here yet - but I use the DU Controller that was talked about it another post.
Yeah, the internal pages are cool - can't see cap info - but there are screens for signal strength, etc.. that I didn't show here.
Crowdx-
Yeah, I already had service - called on Wednesday, got my appointment for today, but that was only because of my schedule. Could have had it hooked up last Friday.
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crowdx
join:2001-10-12
Concord, CA
| Well I just got off the phone with Comcast and they said it is not available in my area yet, they said it just got launched here today but that my area was just outside the available area,, also asked about the new download speeds and she said it would be December.
So seems my area sucks for the moment :-(
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oliphant5
Got Identity?
Premium
join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA
| Re: Home Networking is ON! I don't know where Concord is in Cali but according to the "leaked" speed increase rollout dates, the Sacramento area is 12/1, Frisco area 12/16 and SoCal 1/13 (of course I'm near the bottom).
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crowdx
join:2001-10-12
Concord, CA | Weird thing is it shows as being available at my address online ??
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oliphant5
Got Identity?
Premium
join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA
| Re: Home Networking is ON! Mine looked like it too...except as it says, Plans available in my area, Info Buy...I click info and in the Marketing Comments it says
said by Marketing Comments:
Comcast Home Networking will be coming soon to your area. Please select "Buy" and enter your contact information (preferences). Comcast will contact you when it Comcast Home Networking is available in your area.
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crowdx
join:2001-10-12
Concord, CA | Well the leaked roll out dates had us down for Dec 15th. | |
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crowdx
join:2001-10-12
Concord, CA | Well mine gave me the buy option and then I filled in the details and they said my order was successful and said a rep would call me,, I called them later thinking that it might speed up things, rather than waiting for them.
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join:2003-04-13
Philadelphia, PA | is the router a, b, or g spec? If it's g, then I'd be interested in NH plan as well | |
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