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ThirdShifter
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80% share who cares

I tunes.. 80% share. Makes sense. All PC users = Kazaa (p2p etc) Mac = itunes.

bmn
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said by ThirdShifter See Profile:
I tunes.. 80% share. Makes sense. All PC users = Kazaa (p2p etc) Mac = itunes.

Actually, that's on both platforms... ITunes is out for Mac AND Windows. Apple holds 80% of the market share on all legal music downloads.
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ThirdShifter
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said by bmn See Profile:
said by ThirdShifter See Profile:
I tunes.. 80% share. Makes sense. All PC users = Kazaa (p2p etc) Mac = itunes.

Actually, that's on both platforms... ITunes is out for Mac AND Windows. Apple holds 80% of the market share on all legal music downloads.

Yup, The PC users had spoken. That buying legal music is not gonna help stop file sharing.
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said by ThirdShifter See Profile:
Yup, The PC users had spoken. That buying legal music is not gonna help stop file sharing.
Then explain why there was such a surge in legal music purchases at ITMS when the PC version was released, made by PC users ?
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ThirdShifter
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Since i don't have the exact figures of this surge from ITMS users. I would assume most of them are from Music Match trying an alternative.

Lets see what happens with napster.
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oliphant5
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Because you can have even a tiny percentage of PC users affecting a market previously dominated by a platform with virtually no market share. That doesn't mean that PC users are flocking to iTunes.

Just because there is a surge doesn't mean anything other than confirming that Apple platforms constitute a tiny portion of the desktop market.
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said by oliphant5 See Profile:
Just because there is a surge doesn't mean anything other than confirming that Apple platforms constitute a tiny portion of the desktop market.
That is true in one regard, but one has to wonder. With name the name recognition of Napster, how is that ITMS is out performing them almost 5 to 1?

You can argue that Napster is PC only, but then that argument would be negated by the fact that there are more PC users.
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MrTangent

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said by ThirdShifter See Profile:
Since i don't have the exact figures of this surge from ITMS users. I would assume most of them are from Music Match trying an alternative.

Lets see what happens with napster.

Here's what happened with Napster (as compared to iTunes):
Music fans purchased and downloaded 1.5 million songs from Apple’s iTunes® Music Store during the same period that Napster reported selling 300,000 songs during its first week of operation. More than 17 million songs have been purchased and downloaded from the iTunes Music Store since it launched in April 2003. According to Nielsen SoundScan, the iTunes Music Store had more than 80 percent market share of legally purchased downloads last week.
Taken from here.

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oliphant5
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said by bmn See Profile:
said by oliphant5 See Profile:
Just because there is a surge doesn't mean anything other than confirming that Apple platforms constitute a tiny portion of the desktop market.
That is true in one regard, but one has to wonder. With name the name recognition of Napster, how is that ITMS is out performing them almost 5 to 1?

You can argue that Napster is PC only, but then that argument would be negated by the fact that there are more PC users.

Because the name recognition that Napster has is that it was squashed by the RIAA. I would imagine that most don't know that it had even returned.
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said by oliphant5 See Profile:
Because the name recognition that Napster has is that it was squashed by the RIAA. I would imagine that most don't know that it had even returned.

Possibly, but with the media blitz (at least here) that its back and legal, I'm not so sure you could say that anymore. I remember seeing it on the national news, all the local channels and even on CNN once or twice.

BTW, interesting new avatar...
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oliphant5
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I actually saw a commercial for Napster but only one time. They need to target networks like MTV and bombard them with commercials to get the word out.

It also could come down to how well iTunes works. I installed it (haven't bought anything, I was just curious) and it looked great...nice layout, easy to use...etc. I haven't seen Napster but it could be simply that iTunes has a head start and is simply a better service.
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Speedy8
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I've tried itunes, rhapsody and napster, and out of all 3 I found ONE album I wanted. That was on itunes, but still I think 99 cents for a digital song is way too much. It ends up being almost if not as much as a CD.

Edit: Oh yeah, and what about albums that had like intermission type songs which are like 90 seconds or less. That's a huge ripoff for $1 each.


oliphant5
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Except instead of getting 1 song that's okay and 13 that suck, you can get 14 you want. Big difference.
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