joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL
| reply to ronpin
Re: New Comcast user
said by ronpin  :
said by jplove71 :
if I ever receive one of these letters, I'm dropping them like a hot potato and going with another high speed internet provider.
They're hoping you do!
I was thinking pretty much the same thing:
"What? That All-You-Can-Eat Buffet warned me about eating more than 12 plates of food in a sitting?! I'll show them, and never come back. They're never getting another $3.95 from me!"
[text was edited by author 2003-10-13 11:02:06] |
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AthlGrond
Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
 ·Comcast
| said by joebear29 :
"What? That All-You-Can-Eat Buffet warned me about eating more than 12 plates of food in a sitting?! I'll show them, and never come back. They're never getting another $3.95 from me!"
Have you been looking at the Comcast manager's hand book again?  |
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shstrang
join:2003-01-10
West Monroe, LA
| reply to joebear29
quote:
What? That All-You-Can-Eat Buffet warned me about eating more than 12 plates of food in a sitting?! I'll show them, and never come back. They're never getting another $3.95 from me!
How do you know he's abusing his "all you can eat" internet service capacity? He may end up using less bandwidth than you ever would.
While no reasonable person expects to be able to go to an "All you can eat" buffet and be able to load up more than once or twice using data services aren't always as cut and dried.
If one wants to listen to live internet radio, surf websites with high graphic content (no I don't mean porn. Believe it or not there are other high graphics content sites on the net.) and download some new programs suggested by cnet, how will one know if they're over their "all you can eat" limit? If Comcast wants to enforce maximum allowed usage in GB chunks they need to make some kind of outline of that policy available to it's customers.
Now it appears that Comcast uses some arbitrary usuage amount to determine whether you're over the alloted amount.
Whether they actually do this or not matters not. Perception is reality. |
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joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL
| said by shstrang :
How do you know he's abusing his "all you can eat" internet service capacity? He may end up using less bandwidth than you ever would.
While no reasonable person expects to be able to go to an "All you can eat" buffet and be able to load up more than once or twice using data services aren't always as cut and dried.
You miss the point of my post. I wasn't arguing the ethics of either side, merely pointing out that leaving wouldn't bug Comcast too much, or else they would not have sent the letter in the first place. |
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jplove71
IBEW 113
Premium
join:2001-03-16
Colorado Springs, CO
| said by joebear29 :
I wasn't arguing the ethics of either side, merely pointing out that leaving wouldn't bug Comcast too much, or else they would not have sent the letter in the first place.
I think it would matter when I'm also using Comcast for my phone and TV service as well.
Me - "Hello? Comcast? Yea, um, I want to cancel all of my services that I have with you."
Them - "Why do you want to do that?"
Me - "I received one of your 'high usage' letters and since there is no set limit in the TOS or AUP, I feel that you really don't want my business so I'm going to take it elsewhere."
Them - "Your account shows that you have phone, TV, and internet with us. Are you sure there's nothing we can do to keep you from leaving?"
Me - "There is one thing."
Them - "And what is that?"
Me - "Add this so-called 'download limit' to the TOS and/or AUP so that subscribers to your internet service know what it is."
Them - "I'm sorry, but we aren't going to do that."
Me - "Then disconnect all of my services immediately"
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joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL
| said by jplove71 :
I think it would matter when I'm also using Comcast for my phone and TV service as well.
Well, it would depend on how much Comcast made off your other services versus how much they lost to excess bandwidth charges. Since I don't know the answer to either, I can't say for sure if they would regret losing you or not.
But it seems to me to be pretty stupid to send out the letter if you didn't want the customer to either cut usage or leave, so I assume that is the intent of the letters. |
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HotRodFoto
Premium
join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO
| reply to joebear29
Comcast outta knock the crap off. It sounds to me like one side is sayin yes u can go faster and the other side is sayin caps! Double standard. It will happen to where they do get a lawsuit sooner or later, as they will issue a letter to someone who runs a business and bam! Lost income and all that. Unlimited means UNLIMITED.....it means being able to surf when u want to with your connection and never worrying about it. Downloading how much u want when u want (legally that is...not illegal stuff) and never worrying about a cap. They are false advertising plain and simple.
Unlimited
\Un*lim"it*ed\, a. 1. Not limited; having no bounds; boundless; as, an unlimited expanse of ocean.
2. Undefined; indefinite; not bounded by proper exceptions; as, unlimited terms. ``Nothing doth more prevail than unlimited generalities.'' --Hooker.
3. Unconfined; not restrained; unrestricted. |
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joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL
| said by HotRodFoto :
Comcast outta knock the crap off. It sounds to me like one side is sayin yes u can go faster and the other side is sayin caps! Double standard. It will happen to where they do get a lawsuit sooner or later, as they will issue a letter to someone who runs a business and bam! Lost income and all that. Unlimited means UNLIMITED.....it means being able to surf when u want to with your connection and never worrying about it. Downloading how much u want when u want (legally that is...not illegal stuff) and never worrying about a cap. They are false advertising plain and simple.
Unlimited
\Un*lim"it*ed\, a. 1. Not limited; having no bounds; boundless; as, an unlimited expanse of ocean.
2. Undefined; indefinite; not bounded by proper exceptions; as, unlimited terms. ``Nothing doth more prevail than unlimited generalities.'' --Hooker.
3. Unconfined; not restrained; unrestricted.
Even if I accept your entire post as true and correct, I don't see how it relates to my point of how COmcast wanted him to leave or they would not have sent the letter. |
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J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI | reply to joebear29
It would be extremely interesting to see Comcast try to quantify excess bandwidth charges for an individual user.
In my specific case, Comcast was much more concerned about losing my CATV business than they were losing my HSI business. |
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joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL
| said by J D McDorce :
It would be extremely interesting to see Comcast try to quantify excess bandwidth charges for an individual user.
In my specific case, Comcast was much more concerned about losing my CATV business than they were losing my HSI business.
That I agree with. It could be they simply ignore the CATV/phone side of the equation when deciding who's profitable, at which point you could properly punish them by leaving. |
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jplove71
IBEW 113
Premium
join:2001-03-16
Colorado Springs, CO
| said by joebear29 :
That I agree with. It could be they simply ignore the CATV/phone side of the equation when deciding who's profitable, at which point you could properly punish them by leaving.
Which is exactly my point that I mentioned earlier. Punish me for 'excessive' bandwidth usage when there is no pre-determined cap defined in the TOS/AUP and I'll go give a different company my money.
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blackjeep
join:2001-07-12
Atlanta, GA
| reply to joebear29
The reasoning here, as at an all U can eat restaurant, should be that they are going to make their money up on the folks who come in, pay $3.95 to visit the bar, and then end up eating a bowl of soup and a roll. They more than make up for/outnumber the occasional overindulger(unless you're from the southeast and going to the western sizzlin' all u can eat breakfast buffet with Bubba and his 8 starving kids. |
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Rambo76098
join:2003-02-21
Pataskala, OH
| reply to jplove71
comcast: you have exceeded the amount of bandwidth allowed in our tos even though we have no set number and just send this letter at will. someone at comcast needs to get their act together... keep this up and real users will start dropping like rocks. I've heard that optium online has been doing this as well. (this is why to get dsl if available at a fixed speed with no usage limits(or implied usage limits for that matter) |
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