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ArchAngel21x MacFan Pro Premium join:2001-10-28 Lincoln, NE ·Internet Nebraska	reply to oliphant5 Re: Again... said by oliphant: Yeah...these guys uncapped their modem...meanwhile O.J. killed everybody Gotta love these priorities. You hit the nail on its head. -- Death Is Irrelevant.
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joebear29 join:2003-07-20 Alabaster, AL	said by ArchAngel21x : You hit the nail on its head. I missed that nail. Does that mean it's ok for me to commit crimes/torts because O.J. killed someone and was found not guilty?
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Shamayim I already have a Messiah. Premium join:2002-09-23	said by joebear29 : Does that mean it's ok for me to commit crimes/torts because O.J. killed someone and was found not guilty? I think you missed his point. Let the punishment fit the crime, and let the crime be properly classified first. -- "tick...tick...tick..." »www.jtf.org/
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joebear29 join:2003-07-20 Alabaster, AL	said by Shamayim : said by joebear29 : Does that mean it's ok for me to commit crimes/torts because O.J. killed someone and was found not guilty? I think you missed his point. Let the punishment fit the crime, and let the crime be properly classified first. Ah, that makes more sense. What does that have to do with O.J.?
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Shamayim I already have a Messiah. Premium join:2002-09-23	The body of his post was his point: properly classifying an offense, and prioritizing limited Federal crime fighter resources. The OJ remark that you chose to focus on was an insignificant aside. -- "tick...tick...tick..." »www.jtf.org/
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oliphant5 Got Identity? Premium join:2003-05-24 Corona, CA	reply to joebear29 said by joebear29 : said by ArchAngel21x : You hit the nail on its head. I missed that nail. Does that mean it's ok for me to commit crimes/torts because O.J. killed someone and was found not guilty? No it means why are we dedicating state resources to chase down a half dozen people who changed a few lines in their config files when D.A. and Federal resources are so taxed, outdated, under staffed, incompetent that a murder they had "dead to rights" got off. And nothing has changed for the better over the last 10 years to stop that...in fact it has only gotten worse. It seems to be that these Federal and state departments who are crying about money, crying about manpower, crying about everything seem to manage to have the time to waste their limited resources on what for all intents and purposes is a friggin civil tort. The "authorities" shouldn't be in this AT ALL. -- -- Munis Killed the Telco Star -- Powered by Barry McKockenner Racing in association with Jack Mikkokov Motorsports [text was edited by author 2003-09-26 13:38:27]
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gargzo How You Doin? join:2000-11-02 South Bend, IN	reply to joebear29 I believe that O.J was not proven guilty. He was not, however, found not guilty. -- Actual cash value of this post $0.0002.
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Gandalf1315 Freelance Philosopher join:2001-05-23 Indianapolis, IN ·RoadRunner Cable ·Vonage	reply to ArchAngel21x said by ArchAngel21x : said by oliphant: Yeah...these guys uncapped their modem...meanwhile O.J. killed everybody Gotta love these priorities. You hit the nail on its head. If I have said it once I have said it a thousand times....In todays America, a misdemeanor against a corporation is worse than a violent felony against an individual. -- No man's life, liberty or fortune is safe while our legislature is in session.--- Benjamin Franklin
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chrisf8657 join:2002-01-27 Glendale, AZ clubs:	reply to oliphant5 said by oliphant5 : said by joebear29 : said by ArchAngel21x : You hit the nail on its head. I missed that nail. Does that mean it's ok for me to commit crimes/torts because O.J. killed someone and was found not guilty? No it means why are we dedicating state resources to chase down a half dozen people who changed a few lines in their config files when D.A. and Federal resources are so taxed, outdated, under staffed, incompetent that a murder they had "dead to rights" got off. And nothing has changed for the better over the last 10 years to stop that...in fact it has only gotten worse. It seems to be that these Federal and state departments who are crying about money, crying about manpower, crying about everything seem to manage to have the time to waste their limited resources on what for all intents and purposes is a friggin civil tort. The "authorities" shouldn't be in this AT ALL. -- -- Munis Killed the Telco Star -- Powered by Barry McKockenner Racing in association with Jack Mikkokov Motorsports [text was edited by author 2003-09-26 13:38:27] *Excuse me, but it is a CRIME, no matter how insignificant you* think it is. Studies have proven someone who gets away with smaller things (in this case, cable bandwidth) will usually move on to stealing other things, even larger things...like your car. These people STOLE bandwidth - which costs MONEY. If you were the one being stolen from I guarantee you would want to apprehend the people responsible too. So put yourself in that position and THINK...:( -- ~~Chris~~ Webmaster/Site Designer/Engineer, NT Network Tech & Total Guru** Need ANY* kind of computer work done? See my profile for my Services page!*
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Shamayim I already have a Messiah. Premium join:2002-09-23	said by chrisf8657 : *Excuse me, but it is a CRIME, no matter how insignificant you* think it is. Then pursue and punish said crime appropriately and not all out of proportion. -- "tick...tick...tick..."** »www.jtf.org/ [text was edited by author 2003-09-26 15:00:24]
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Jeremy341 Bye Premium join:2000-01-06 localhost	reply to chrisf8657 said by chrisf8657 : Studies have proven someone who gets away with smaller things (in this case, cable bandwidth) will usually move on to stealing other things, even larger things...like your car. Do you honestly believe all that crap that you just typed?
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broknsymetry What Time Is It And Why? Premium join:2003-06-27 THE VOID clubs:	reply to chrisf8657 said by chrisf8657 : *Excuse me, but it is a CRIME, no matter how insignificant you* think it is. Studies have proven someone who gets away with smaller things (in this case, cable bandwidth) will usually move on to stealing other things, even larger things...like your car. Yes and after smoking just one joint you will** wind up on the street as a heroine junkie! Thing is you can't prosecute someone for future crimes that he may commit. Except in the movies. -- Some scientist may at last disperse The mysteries of the universe But me, I can not even think Why pork is white and ham is pink --Ogden Nash
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Stewy85 Premium join:2003-01-16 Sharon, WI clubs:	reply to ArchAngel21x I agree.
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oliphant5 Got Identity? Premium join:2003-05-24 Corona, CA	reply to chrisf8657 Please post a link to the study for all to see.
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TheChosenOne2 I Will Bring Balance join:2003-08-17 Deep River, CT	reply to broknsymetry quote: Yes and after smoking just one joint you will wind up on the street as a heroine junkie! Yeah right, you must be one of the people that thought prohobition was a great idea too, huh?
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broknsymetry What Time Is It And Why? Premium join:2003-06-27 THE VOID clubs:	Note the use of SARCASM in my post!
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oliphant5 Got Identity? Premium join:2003-05-24 Corona, CA	reply to chrisf8657 Please quote the criminal statute that was broken (or post a link to it). It's certainly not theft of service since they were authorized to receive HSI. This is more like watching the same PPV movie twice...but even then HSI isn't video and isn't regulated as such. This is a simple tort...breach of contract. Violating the TOS/AUP by changing the modem. That's it. There is no crime here. [text was edited by author 2003-09-26 22:19:26]
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KrK Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy Premium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK ·AT&T Yahoo ·AT&T DSL Service ·Cox HSI ·AT&T Southwest	reply to chrisf8657 said by chrisf8657 : *Excuse me, but it is a CRIME, no matter how insignificant you* think it is.** Hear that sound? It was the Clue train passing you by. The whole point of the debate and as was repeatedly pointed out is that modem uncapping was NOT a crime, there was no law against it, it was NOT theft of service, and as was repeatedly discussed, at best it was a violation of TOS, however, in this case, Buckeye Cable had not specified service rates/modem configurations in their TOS, so it wasn't even THAT. So, you could argue that is was WRONG but the argument that it was a CRIME (Especially involving the Feds!) was incredibly thin (and guess what, the Court agreed!) -- "Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)
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joebear29 join:2003-07-20 Alabaster, AL	said by KrK : So, you could argue that is was WRONG but the argument that it was a CRIME (Especially involving the Feds!) was incredibly thin (and guess what, the Court agreed!) That is pretty much my position, summed up nicely.
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oliphant5 Got Identity? Premium join:2003-05-24 Corona, CA	reply to KrK Holy crap...someone who actually gets it!
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