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Eat Me

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
FTTH yes, BPL no.

And this folks, is why we do not need BPL.


jplove71
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said by Eat Me See Profile:
And this folks, is why we do not need BPL.
What's wrong with BPL? I see it as another option that muni's can use in cooperation with the power companies.
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Eat Me

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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See the other BPL threads for excellent explanations as to why BPL is bad.

And see the article for the reasons why FTTH is so much better:

quote:
"I am just thrilled," Bethel's wife, Trisha, said. The pair took turns demonstrating the high-speed capabilities of the fiber Internet connection, downloading Web pages at 4.0 megabits, about 70 times faster than a 56k dial-up modem.


jplove71
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BPL is not bad. They just need to switch frequencies.
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bobmanh2o
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join:2002-11-23
Sharon, SC
reply to Eat Me
And this folks will never happen in my area.....


Eat Me

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reply to jplove71
said by jplove71 See Profile:
BPL is not bad. They just need to switch frequencies.

Huh?

I wasn't even talking about the interference problem with BPL. I was talking about availability and bandwidth.

Elementary physics will tell you that signal loss in fiber optic cable is way below any form of metal cable. A fiber optic signal can go for over 90 miles before needing a repeater. BPL is limited to 5000 feet from the CO before needing a repeater.

BPL is limited to 20 Megabits per second. DOCSIS 2.0 using 64QAM is capable of a maximum bandwidth of 30 MBps. FTTH on the other hand is capable of gigabit speeds. Quite a difference!

alfnoid
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join:2002-02-18

reply to Eat Me
4Mb is one thing when you have one subscriber, but what will happen when you get the whole town online?

Also if you look at Dalton on a map you will see it is pretty small. So this works for them.

Not likely however that many people reading this now will see a connection like this in their own home for years and years (did I say years?) unless you have a lot of money and move to one of the few developments in the country where FTTH is reality.

peace

BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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reply to Eat Me
even the purest fiber needs repeating at 50 to 70 miles and needs to be patched at points with a speed shifting fiber and this costs lots of money. how ever i do agree this is the best solution for the last mile.
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zabes63

join:2003-04-05
Batavia, IL

reply to Eat Me
Hey either one is fine with me. Anything that will kill the duopoly/monopoly stranglehold that SBC/Comcast holds on my community. Although I think that fiber's capacity for will allow it to remain the relevant media far longer than any copper.
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kb2seo

join:2003-08-29
Eton, GA

 reply to Eat Me
If you care at all for the thousands of Amateur Radio Operators that freely provide Emergency Communications, Disaster assistance and Even radio Grams around the world for our Military, You'll Jump on board to say NO WAY to BPL. And by the way, If you like AM radio Service,It will be gone too. This garbage will affect Low VHF for Police Fire first aid, CB radio, Older Cordless Phones, Baby Monitors, It could even affect some garage door openers. We Hams have enough problems with bad cable RF leaks on the VHF spectrum thanks to Charter's Crummy Cable 145.000-146.900 is a mess . I can't tell you how many complaint go un-answered or they simply deny the charges. Go to the Intersection of 286 and 225 in Murray County GA and Hear the damage being done if you have the equipment!

BPL will cause much worse Noise problems than you can imagine. And the Power Company will LIE through their collective teeth otherwise. Please, If you would like the real Information on BPL go to »www.arrl.org/news/bandthreat/

This is Real engineers doing the Real Research with the REAL results. we cannot allow BPL on any frequencies, It is not shielded, it is not proven to do anything but RADIATE and as bad as the Power lines produce un-wanted noise already, who would want this added crap?

Besides, can you imagine calling GA.Power or North Georgia electric for help????? I can't get them to fix the lines near my house when it rains!

73!

kb2seo

join:2003-08-29
Eton, GA

reply to alfnoid
Please remember we are talking LIGHT PULSES, Fiber Optics. Cable services can bog down quite a bit, fiber optics has room to spare. Only 30 users can be hooked to one interface from the user ONT.

Once onto the Lines back to the "plant" there is a significant amount of Bandwidth that would be still available even if they all hit Microcrap for a EXPLODER download at once.
So what will happen? Nothing or Next to nothing. Most of the customers are choosing 1.5 Mb anyway.

alfnoid
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join:2002-02-18

I am quite aware of how fiber works. This is not what I was referring to.

What I am referring to is the pipe (to the net) that the city is reselling. What do they have for capacity if the person who put this together is getting 4Mb when they are the only one online?

Anyway I don't need to debate the unknowns of a small GA town.

I think it is great that more and more places are rolling their own and I hope I can find someplace to live that will give me a fiber connection someday soon. Not likely, but hey... I can hope.

peace
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