Maxo
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I've heard a lot of talk about this but don't know much. These taxes are pretty steep. My big questions is when said taxes are paid, where the hell is the money going? Also, what is the justification for the need of such taxes?
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pnh102
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Also, what is the justification for the need of such taxes?
To pay for increased state spending of course! You don't really think that this "slow economy" has put the brakes on state spending, do you?  Of course not! Just about every single state has increased the amount of money it spends year after year. The fact that existing tax revenue doesn't pay the bill doesn't seem to matter.
You'll get a kick out of this one... in Pennsylvania, our governor recently signed into law a $22 billion "bare bones" budget. How $22 billion is bare bones is totally beyond me!
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sterilegenie
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Also, what is the justification for the need of such taxes?
To further deepen the pockets of greedy politicians!
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Wills
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Florida has had to cut spending on every front with Jeb's new 5 year plan. Our office was cut almost 13.5%, and like I said, we're a state agency.
I'd really like to know where this money would go. The roads suck, the boat ramps suck, the parks suck, there is nothing for kids to do.
It's probably going to go to save more manatees.
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aztecnology
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|  said by Wills :
I'd really like to know where this money would go. The roads suck, the boat ramps suck, the parks suck, there is nothing for kids to do.
We all know that the kids are still gonna swim with the gators...
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pnh102
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said by Wills :
Florida has had to cut spending on every front with Jeb's new 5 year plan. Our office was cut almost 13.5%
But was it an actual cut in the amount allotted? I.e., You got $X in 2002, and you will get 0.865 * $X this year? Or was it a cut in the increase in funding for this year? I.e., you got $X in 2002, you were supposed to get $X + $Y in 2003, but instead you got $X + (0.865 * $Y) this year. A lot of times when I hear people in Pennsylvania complain about "cutbacks", it really turns out to be a case of the latter, in which they are still getting more money than last year.
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aztecnology
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said by pnh102 :
You'll get a kick out of this one... in Pennsylvania, our governor recently signed into law a $22 billion "bare bones" budget. How $22 billion is bare bones is totally beyond me!
You wanna get a kick out of something...
When Gray Dufus took over California the state budget was $50 Billion, today we're looking at a budget over $100 Billion. Not to mention he took a $12 Billion Surplus (largest in state history) and has turned it into a $40 Billion deficit(largest in state history)
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pnh102
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today we're looking at a budget over $100 Billion. Not to mention he took a $12 Billion Surplus (largest in state history) and has turned it into a $40 Billion deficit(largest in state history)
There's gotta be a Dr. Evil joke in that somewhere Of course, it looks like Davis is gonna be "Term-inated" pretty soon LOL.
I think I made up 2 puns for the price of one!
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Wills
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We are getting almost 13.5% less money this year than we did last year. (Budget year stats July 1st)
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banditws6
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Lots of holes for that money to disappear down
They're probably trying to come up with new and creative ways to fund the Class Size Reduction amendment. Or maybe that super-useful High Speed Rail amendment that makes it a STATE LAW that a high-speed rail transportation system must be constructed between central and south Florida.
A lot of extremely expensive laws in this state seem somewhat overzealous. You can pass a decree that says the earth has to be shiny and happy, but do we really need a law for that? Can we reasonably expect to enforce such a law? Do we even need to? Even if we could, can we possibly afford to?
These are just some of the questions not being asked at a Florida legislature meeting near you.
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KrK
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Yeah, and then the Terminator will be next to be Terminated when the Cereal State pounds him into the dirt as well.... |
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Maxo
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But seriously, does anybody know where this money is suppose to be going. In my opinion if we are paying taxes on the internet it oughtta be given right back to us in promoting the technology it is taxing us for using. Like maybe providing more computers and computer classes in schools so kids go to middle school knowing how to touch type and use a computer competantly. As good as kids are with computers I see a lot of kids in college who barely know how to use theirs and hunt and peck their way to a 4 page essay. Now adays kids in middle school are expected to do a lot of their papers type written. If we require them to do this why not provide them with the tools for how to do this. You're just expected to know how to make those margins 1" and such. Considering how much more our world will be dependant on computer in the 5 or so years, when they've graduated high school, we better do something fast to make sure our kids can keep up with Japan and India. This seems like a good oppurtunity to make that happen.
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dr riddim
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If I'm not mistaken our illustrious governor, Jeb Bush, has condemned (or is about to condemn) the manatee to extinction by removing it from the endangered species list. The boating industry (and, of course, all the folks who own boats are voters) managed to get their way.
Why is it so damned hard to give a little consideration to the manatees? |
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Maxo
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| Yeah, I read those idiots crap in the news papers. They said they moved to Florida to get the experience and don't like the no wake zones. Well guess what? The no wake zones & the manatees are the Florida experience. If you don't like it Bubba and I will can chase your Yankee ass back to New York with our shot guns and pick up trucks. Eat some F***in' grits and cracklins before you come around here trying to take our state away. I'd like to condemn Jeb to a life of eating hog maws and souse. Then he'll realise what it realy means to be a southerner and will stop being such POS.
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Hayward
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said by Maxo :
Also, what is the justification for the need of such taxes?
No state income tax maybe???
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rmdir
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But seriously, does anybody know where this money is suppose to be going.
Well, if it's anything like it is here in Illinois, and I suspect it is, it's going to jobs for friends, relatives and campaign contributors for elected politicians, and sweetheart no bid contracts for all their buds.
Hey boiled peanuts you're calling the wrong person a POS. The dictionary definition of a POS is our mayor, Richard Daley. |
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Wills
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Why is it so hard? Because they constantly attack us boaters. They are taking away our prime fishing areas, these are waters 3 feet deep and less, that manatees can't even get to.
Last year in Charlotte county, 14 manatees where killed by other than normal causes. 1 was by boat, the others were killed by red tide.
It has always been fewer killed by boat than anything else. Yet they still try to interfere with the boaters.
And no, they haven't been removed from endangered species list, that's not Jeb Bush's call.
If you want to save the manatees, fine, but there is no reason to stop boaters, make prime fishing areas off limits, or stop the construction of sea walls all in places the manatees don't go. If they continue to do this, then in my opinion, those without opposing thumbs lose.
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And in Ohio, our "great" POS governor, Bob Taft, managed get a "temporary" two year sales tax increase of 1 penny (+23% increase), plus start taxing almost any kind of service provided (Car towing, nail salons, hair cutting, etc} that was exempt before. Additionally, almost all license fees doubled (car plates, drivers license, marriage, etc). Now a week after being implemented, there's suddenly a budget surplus. This being his last term in office due to term limits, means we can't vote him out of office in 2005! |
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Maxo
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Well, if conservation laws for manatees aren't helping that's one thing. But people who say they don't care about the manatees because they like to ride their boat fast or because they think protecting them is a pain in the ass. I saw in the news paper a while ago people protesting holding up sign saying they don't give a crap about manatees and they moved to Florida to drive their boat fast and "live the Florida experience" As a native Floridian everyone I've met has been more than happy to obey laws to help protect the manatess because they consider the well-being of the manatees the well-being of Florida culture. But whether or not those laws are effective is a completely different story.
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Hayward
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said by Wills :
I'd really like to know where this money would go. The roads suck, the boat ramps suck, the parks suck, there is nothing for kids to do.
Yeah and how about that unclaimed 50 MILLION lottery prize that is going back into Lottery promotion.... was in not created to aid to EDUCATION, our schools couldn't have used that $50 Million????
No I guess not... that might create educated people that actual vote intelligently (if at all)... instead of just shooting each other on the street.
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