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ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
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Coloma, MI

reply to dvd536
Re: untrue

said by dvd536 See Profile:
ISDN pricing has a lot to do with old tariff laws on the books (at least in america). thats why ISDN was totally passed over for the consumer market. thats also why IDSL (ISDN over DSL) 144/144 is so expensive.
So the big bad government forced the telcos to overinflate the price of ISDN?
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ

reply to ib50MbSoon
ISDN pricing has a lot to do with old tariff laws on the books (at least in america). thats why ISDN was totally passed over for the consumer market. thats also why IDSL (ISDN over DSL) 144/144 is so expensive.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

reply to ib50MbSoon
said by ib50MbSoon See Profile:
When Comcast completes the HSI upgrade in our area, it will be interesting to see if SBC will still want $180/mo for a 128kb ISDN line.
We have had Comcast HSI for over a year now and Verizon still wants that much for ISDN.

I gave up on the telegraph companies. They still insist on wanting to sell me 100 year old technology when I don't want it. They could have retained me as a customer if they had bothered to provide the services I wanted, but they didn't... oh well.
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ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
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Coloma, MI

reply to boogie74
said by boogie74 See Profile:
quote:
The bellcos only lower their prices where they absolutely have to or are forced to by law. When Comcast completes the HSI upgrade in our area, it will be interesting to see if SBC will still want $180/mo for a 128kb ISDN line.
I'm not sure what century you're living in, but the last I checked, 128Kbps ISDN is NOT DSL. From the prices I've seen, I haven't ever seen a 2 channel ISDN line costing more than $80-100 per month either. $180?

Unbelievable isn't it!
269-468-xxxx There is the exchange, pick a number!

said by boogie74 See Profile:

This is a moot point anyways- has it ever occurred to you that the Bells are trying to encourage customers to change FROM ISDN to newer technologies like DSL by making price such a large factor? This is why parts for a 1990 vehicle are so expensive to buy. Auto manufacturers are trying to encourage people to simply BUY A NEW CAR!

Has it ever occurred to you that SBC doesn't offer DSL in our area? The ISDN-car is the only model available from Coloma's Model-T phone exchange.
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Frank
is chilling
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join:2000-11-03
somewhere
·Verizon FIOS

reply to ib50MbSoon
said by ib50MbSoon See Profile:
said by BBC4544 See Profile:
... have said that the ILEC's will not lower their prices because they are evil. Someone please HELP!! The sky is falling!!!!
The bellcos only lower their prices where they absolutely have to or are forced to by law. When Comcast completes the HSI upgrade in our area, it will be interesting to see if SBC will still want $180/mo for a 128kb ISDN line.

And with Packet8 and Vonage over a cable line, the evil telcos may have to drop the price of that bandwidth-challenged voice line too. Good times are coming!

i live in verizon land..... there is 10mbps cable (optonline), various dsl flavors (mci,covad,and verizon) and wireless (well supposedly wireless) in my area. ISDN is still NOT cheap in fact it never was and I doubt it ever will be. Verizon still wants obscene amounts of money for something as craptacular as ISDN even though there are many other viable options which are faster. It's always been this way it will always be this way. In other words I doubt ISDN prices would drop if comcast had cable in your area.


boogie74

join:2001-06-19
Neenah, WI
clubs:

reply to ib50MbSoon
quote:
The bellcos only lower their prices where they absolutely have to or are forced to by law. When Comcast completes the HSI upgrade in our area, it will be interesting to see if SBC will still want $180/mo for a 128kb ISDN line.
I'm not sure what century you're living in, but the last I checked, 128Kbps ISDN is NOT DSL. From the prices I've seen, I haven't ever seen a 2 channel ISDN line costing more than $80-100 per month either. $180?

This is a moot point anyways- has it ever occurred to you that the Bells are trying to encourage customers to change FROM ISDN to newer technologies like DSL by making price such a large factor? This is why parts for a 1990 vehicle are so expensive to buy. Auto manufacturers are trying to encourage people to simply BUY A NEW CAR!

This isn't to be able to gouge consumers.

"Gee... lower prices... speed tiers... extra items and options... must be a monopolistic attempt to gouge customers- they're only doing it to run everyone out of business that doesn't want to compete... then the price will be $8 million per HOUR! Just wait!"

Right... just keep complaining about how unfair it is that you can't complain anymore.

Boogie


ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
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Coloma, MI

reply to BBC4544
said by BBC4544 See Profile:
... have said that the ILEC's will not lower their prices because they are evil. Someone please HELP!! The sky is falling!!!!
The bellcos only lower their prices where they absolutely have to or are forced to by law. When Comcast completes the HSI upgrade in our area, it will be interesting to see if SBC will still want $180/mo for a 128kb ISDN line.

And with Packet8 and Vonage over a cable line, the evil telcos may have to drop the price of that bandwidth-challenged voice line too. Good times are coming!
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