BBC4544
join:2002-03-12
Saint Peters, MO | untrue
This cannot be happening because all the chicken littles (krk, briandamage, tofarfromco(otherwise known at 2dumb4dsl)) have said that the ILEC's will not lower their prices because they are evil. Someone please HELP!! The sky is falling!!!! |
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ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
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Coloma, MI
| said by BBC4544  :
... have said that the ILEC's will not lower their prices because they are evil. Someone please HELP!! The sky is falling!!!!
The bellcos only lower their prices where they absolutely have to or are forced to by law. When Comcast completes the HSI upgrade in our area, it will be interesting to see if SBC will still want $180/mo for a 128kb ISDN line.
And with Packet8 and Vonage over a cable line, the evil telcos may have to drop the price of that bandwidth-challenged voice line too. Good times are coming!
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boogie74
join:2001-06-19
Neenah, WI
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The bellcos only lower their prices where they absolutely have to or are forced to by law. When Comcast completes the HSI upgrade in our area, it will be interesting to see if SBC will still want $180/mo for a 128kb ISDN line.
I'm not sure what century you're living in, but the last I checked, 128Kbps ISDN is NOT DSL. From the prices I've seen, I haven't ever seen a 2 channel ISDN line costing more than $80-100 per month either. $180?
This is a moot point anyways- has it ever occurred to you that the Bells are trying to encourage customers to change FROM ISDN to newer technologies like DSL by making price such a large factor? This is why parts for a 1990 vehicle are so expensive to buy. Auto manufacturers are trying to encourage people to simply BUY A NEW CAR!
This isn't to be able to gouge consumers.
"Gee... lower prices... speed tiers... extra items and options... must be a monopolistic attempt to gouge customers- they're only doing it to run everyone out of business that doesn't want to compete... then the price will be $8 million per HOUR! Just wait!"
Right... just keep complaining about how unfair it is that you can't complain anymore.
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Frank
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said by ib50MbSoon :
said by BBC4544 :
... have said that the ILEC's will not lower their prices because they are evil. Someone please HELP!! The sky is falling!!!!
The bellcos only lower their prices where they absolutely have to or are forced to by law. When Comcast completes the HSI upgrade in our area, it will be interesting to see if SBC will still want $180/mo for a 128kb ISDN line.
And with Packet8 and Vonage over a cable line, the evil telcos may have to drop the price of that bandwidth-challenged voice line too. Good times are coming!
i live in verizon land..... there is 10mbps cable (optonline), various dsl flavors (mci,covad,and verizon) and wireless (well supposedly wireless) in my area. ISDN is still NOT cheap in fact it never was and I doubt it ever will be. Verizon still wants obscene amounts of money for something as craptacular as ISDN even though there are many other viable options which are faster. It's always been this way it will always be this way. In other words I doubt ISDN prices would drop if comcast had cable in your area. |
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ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
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Coloma, MI
| reply to boogie74
said by boogie74 :
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The bellcos only lower their prices where they absolutely have to or are forced to by law. When Comcast completes the HSI upgrade in our area, it will be interesting to see if SBC will still want $180/mo for a 128kb ISDN line.
I'm not sure what century you're living in, but the last I checked, 128Kbps ISDN is NOT DSL. From the prices I've seen, I haven't ever seen a 2 channel ISDN line costing more than $80-100 per month either. $180?
Unbelievable isn't it!
269-468-xxxx There is the exchange, pick a number!
said by boogie74 :
This is a moot point anyways- has it ever occurred to you that the Bells are trying to encourage customers to change FROM ISDN to newer technologies like DSL by making price such a large factor? This is why parts for a 1990 vehicle are so expensive to buy. Auto manufacturers are trying to encourage people to simply BUY A NEW CAR!
Has it ever occurred to you that SBC doesn't offer DSL in our area? The ISDN-car is the only model available from Coloma's Model-T phone exchange.
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CO_Chris
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join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO | reply to BBC4544
This is to F*&King Funny.. that made my day for sure |
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pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD
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said by ib50MbSoon :
When Comcast completes the HSI upgrade in our area, it will be interesting to see if SBC will still want $180/mo for a 128kb ISDN line.
We have had Comcast HSI for over a year now and Verizon still wants that much for ISDN.
I gave up on the telegraph companies. They still insist on wanting to sell me 100 year old technology when I don't want it. They could have retained me as a customer if they had bothered to provide the services I wanted, but they didn't... oh well.
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oliphant5
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| reply to BBC4544
Sure, too bad they require bundled crappy overpriced POTS service to get it. And SBC and Verizon are wasting no time trying to get new price hikes on POTS through to make up for these "gifts".
[text was edited by author 2003-07-08 11:55:59] |
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aztecnology
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Murrieta, CA |  reply to CO_Chris
What's so funny... |
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oliphant5
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Corona, CA | The simple minded are easily amused. |
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CO_Chris
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| This is whats funny-------> This cannot be happening because all the chicken littles (krk, briandamage, tofarfromco(otherwise known at 2dumb4dsl)) have said that the ILEC's will not lower their prices because they are evil. Someone please HELP!! The sky is falling!!!!
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KrK
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| reply to BBC4544
said by BBC4544 :
This cannot be happening because all the chicken littles (krk, briandamage, tofarfromco(otherwise known at 2dumb4dsl)) have said that the ILEC's will not lower their prices because they are evil. Someone please HELP!! The sky is falling!!!!
Nice garbage there. Lower price but slower speed? Big whoop.
This is what happens in areas where there is competition.... try looking at the big picture for once, instead of wearing your Telco issued Blinders.
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2farfromCO7
join:2000-10-14
Farmington, MI
| reply to BBC4544
What are you talking about??? I have said recently that DSL prices will approach 0, and it still won't matter. DSL is dead no matter what the prices are. RBOCs are evil; they are STUPID. They won't ever beat cable until they make it available. Maybe you missed my post where I said that there are only 3 problems with DSL:
1. Availability
2. Availability
3. Availability
They best broadband service is the one available first. Cable is almost always first and the RBOCs are so stupid that they are ignoring most of the VERY DENSE INNER SUBURBAN spots tht will NEVER have cable. |
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aztecnology
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Murrieta, CA
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said by CO_Chris :
This is whats funny-------> This cannot be happening because all the chicken littles (krk, briandamage, tofarfromco(otherwise known at 2dumb4dsl)) have said that the ILEC's will not lower their prices because they are evil. Someone please HELP!! The sky is falling!!!!
Actually, what they are saying is that the telcos will not expand dsl coverage to reach their front doors...if they could get it, they would pay for it...
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aztecnology
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said by 2farfromCO7 :
What are you talking about??? I have said recently that DSL prices will approach 0, and it still won't matter. DSL is dead no matter what the prices are. RBOCs are evil; they are STUPID. They won't ever beat cable until they make it available. Maybe you missed my post where I said that there are only 3 problems with DSL:
1. Availability
2. Availability
3. Availability
1. Location
2. Location
3. Location
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BBC4544
join:2002-03-12
Saint Peters, MO
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Lower price but slower speed?
WRONG
chk sbc
lower prices and higher speeds, if you pay more then the current price you can call and get your price lowered and get a free modem. Also, this offer is in all areas, competition or not. NOW who is wearing the blinders ,or are you just an out right liar. Just because you say it does not make it true. KrK i will allow you a brief moment to remove your foot from your mouth and have a slice of humble pie.
BOW DOWN O STUPID ONE!!!!!
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BBC4544
join:2002-03-12
Saint Peters, MO
| reply to oliphant5
(sniff sniff) would you like a tissue??? Heaven forbid a company bundles a product that they have every right to bundle. grow up, if you want dsl that bad without dial tone, buy a dslam, register as a CLEC, buy a dry pair and supply your own damn dsl and quit crying!!!!! |
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA | reply to BBC4544
Huh. Last time I checked, the only lower prices are for the first year, then prices go back up to "normal". Funny that most people can't see past 12 months. |
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oliphant5
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Corona, CA | reply to BBC4544
Yep, just don't claim that they're cutting prices when they aren't. Telco shills, gotta love their revisionist history. |
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oliphant5
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said by JakCrow :
Huh. Last time I checked, the only lower prices are for the first year, then prices go back up to "normal". Funny that most people can't see past 12 months.
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