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We're already paying that charity in the form of the Farm Bill.
lucky for you. else you'd be complaining about the high price of food.
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Actually, I'd just go long in the futures market and make even more money than I already do off farmers 
uh, that's not making money off farmers. that's making money off stock market losers. big difference.
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said by oliphant5 :
We're already paying that charity in the form of the Farm Bill.
lucky for you. else you'd be complaining about the high price of food.
No I wouldn't...I'd just buy imported food. |
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Since it is more costly to wire rural areas, and we all pay for them because of that. . . Then they should have a Universal Housing Fund because real-estate is more costly in metropolitan areas. Let the bumkins help pay for my housing.
Umm, doesn't that already exist? I believe it is called HUD (Housing & Urban Development). You don't need to run wires in rural areas. Wireless would suit us just fine, thanks for asking |
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said by oliphant5 :
said by morbo :
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We're already paying that charity in the form of the Farm Bill.
lucky for you. else you'd be complaining about the high price of food.
No I wouldn't...I'd just buy imported food.
this is an endless cycle. only buy imported food then all of people employed in farming are out of work. your taxes will rise.
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| Only if you're shortsighted.
Have them enter a different market eg making ethanol. It reduces the dependence on foreign oil (keeps the money here in the US) as well as being a renewable resource (good for the environment) that is far more clean burning that traditional fossil fuels (also good for the environment)...PLUS there isn't that much R&D necessary to mass produce ethanol burning vehicles...Ford already does it. Availability of Ethanol is what is killing Ethanol. Put farmers and the super farm corporations like ADM into the fuel business. Imagine turning the midwest into the middle east, except CO absorbing 02 producing corn fields as far as the eye can see. You think then there wouldn't be the money for rural communities to build their own infrastructure? They would be bathing in the billions now sent to the middle east oil barrons.
And the taxes only rise if you give away money. The endless cycle is only there if you let it be.
Take off the blinders and you'll see the obvious solutions and they need not come from daddy government.
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| please. the oil companies are going to let that happen anytime soon? this country (nor the world) doesn't always go for what is best immediately. but if we're dreaming, we should skip ethanol and put the big money directly into hydrogen fuel vehicles. much cleaner and plentiful.
your 'solution' is nothing more than a dream. besides, why trade one problem for another? why move from dependence on foreign oil to dependence on food? that will put us in a more precarious position than we are in now. no oil = we walk / bike /carpool. no food = we die.
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| Just a dream!?! Only if you would rather complain about the problem rather than try and solve it.
»www.usda.gov/news/releases/2003/06/0193.htm -Statement from Agriculture Secretary Ann M. Veneman
Regarding the Senate Passage of the Renewable Fuels Standard Amendment
June 5, 2003
There are certain groups that don't want problems like these solved because stealing money and having the power to redistribute it is more important to them that the wellbeing of the nation and the success of its people.
And no food? Please. Just another scare tactic that is completely baseless. There is ZERO evidence supporting your claims, while the U.S.D.A. and this Administration seems to agree with me (or rather I agree with them). Even the oil companies wouldn't go for such nonsense.
You want to help the farmers? Get the government out of the way so they can help themselves.
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I don't think WorldCom was ever a recipient of USF monies while Ebbers was there. They didn't go into the areas USF supports.
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Uh, actually, you'll find that urban, not rural, folks have longer average commutes....
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Actually, if I need to communicate with you, I'll just pick up the phone. After all, I am already paying for it.
Now, about that housing subsidy you think you're paying but I'm not getting, please send the money NOW.
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Although they do a terrible job, HUD is focused on the poor. USF, by comparison, supports the rural rich as well as the rural poor. Consider Jackson Hole, etc.
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i read the statement. whoop de doo! do you read the quotes from verizon and comcast on this site? they say fiber to the home and 100Mbit pipes are just around the corner... next year maybe. lol.
re: no food. read back on your post and my posts. i don't want to have to explain it to you.
despite what you may think, big government isn't the cause of all of our problems.
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Corona, CA | It most certainly is the cause of all of our problems. I'm sure you dismissed the Mission to the Moon speech too. Good for you...typical NoCal. |
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It most certainly is the cause of all of our problems. I'm sure you dismissed the Mission to the Moon speech too. Good for you...typical NoCal.
lol. i live in saint louis mo (where i am right now).
typical ass-u-me behavior.
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Perhaps, but the point is the same. |
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Dup post...
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It's not an assumption when you put your location in your profile...but then again, we can't take you lefties literally. Some lefties seem to have a problem with truth and accuracy. While I don't feel bad for NoCal, I do now feel bad for St. Louis. |
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Take off the blinders and you'll see the obvious solutions and they need not come from daddy government.
I agree wholeheartedly, so don't let this get your hackles up too much  :
http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/Asay.asp
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It's not an assumption when you put your location in your profile...but then again, we can't take you lefties literally. Some lefties seem to have a problem with truth and accuracy. While I don't feel bad for NoCal, I do now feel bad for St. Louis.
ah. how sweet! moron.
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